Jedi-72
Sr Member
I'm no expert, but something about that helmet doesn't quite look "original". Something about the the frown, and the fact that it looks almost brand new. Who knows...
TK-2067
Well-Known Member
It does look like some made it new again...
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
That's the restored Joiner helmet - http://thepropzone.jconserv.net/viewtopic.php?t=2248 - up for auction on Profiles of History or whatever they're called in August. If someone is using the picture to sell a helmet on eBay, then that auction is fraudulent.
EDIT: Crap... it IS the Joiner Profiles in History auction. It's legit.
EDIT: Crap... it IS the Joiner Profiles in History auction. It's legit.
OldKen
Master Member
I cant believe this was "restored" this poorly. :sick
Would be still cool to have and of course now wouldnt be a big deal to ACTUALLY restore it to its original ESB condition.
But IMHO they really devalued it. Not to say it wont fetch a rediculous price, but I know Im not alone in saying that for that much money I would rather it had not been touched.
Addint the repro ears is one thing... Or having it faithfully touched up and restored (Like something Tom Spina would do with an ewok or ugnaught) without losing its original look and feel. But this... :confused Why?
Would be still cool to have and of course now wouldnt be a big deal to ACTUALLY restore it to its original ESB condition.
But IMHO they really devalued it. Not to say it wont fetch a rediculous price, but I know Im not alone in saying that for that much money I would rather it had not been touched.
Addint the repro ears is one thing... Or having it faithfully touched up and restored (Like something Tom Spina would do with an ewok or ugnaught) without losing its original look and feel. But this... :confused Why?
Ghost Host
Sr Member
JRX
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Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Probably. But a restoration kinda requires that it is restored to its proper look... and they even failed with that, as they chose ANH colors rather than ESB. For that alone it is a faulty restoration. Though... to be truthful... it was restored to an even worse look previously... this current look is more accurate... but still far from how it should be.
bigbaddaddyvader
Well-Known Member
I hate this.Bottom line is unless you are talking stabilisation from decay,in which a certain level of restoration is necessary,then leave the piece the hell alone.Every step taken away from original production condition is undesirable.
JoeR
Sr Member
I totally agree Niall.
The irony is that this needs doing again properly, which would make it the third time!
Here's some more pictures I posted on TPZ:
I got some more pics and info from Profiles.
Profiles ESB Helmet
I wonder if the foam liner is anything near what was there originally. I know the other ESB helmet had a petal liner.
Profiles have confirmed that both ear pieces are replicas. They also stated that the helmet was 'restored' in the UK and then sent to Michael Moore of H.H.S. Props to be used as the master to created the Master Replicas Stormtrooper helmet.
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Ghost Host
Sr Member
It was my understanding that the ESB helmets were all from ANH, so wouldn't a restoration to ANH colors/pattern be considered an accurate restoration? I agree it was done poorly and should be billed as an ANH helmet instead...
JoeR
Sr Member
This one was in ANH and ESB so that is a fair point, ANH would be accurate....
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Okay, I didn't think of that... you are correct. Restoring it to ANH would technically be just as correct...
Harry Harris
Well-Known Member
Does this helmet currently belong to Jason Joiner?
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GordonTarpley
Member
This helmet is on display here in Tampa until January 2012.
I saw some info about it a few years back on www.starwarshelmets.com
It was also auctioned in 2004 but through Christie's It's the one with the black patch on the back...
There are some more photos of the helmet on my flickr page
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