New Right Side Image of Han Hoth Blaster

[Boba Debt]

New Right Side Image of Han Hoth Blaster

This is too big to discuss in a thread with 10 other props so I decided to start a new one

Here are a few observations

A - This mount doesn't seem to have the sharp inside corners that the bespin version has, they seem to have more of a radius

B - The mount looks like it's held on with a HW scope adjustment knob. I have seen a variation of the HW scopes that have 3 flush slotted screws in the same positions as that one. It looks like they replaced them with allen bolts.

C - The muzzle also has the hollow out back area

Looks like I might need to hit the drawing board

 

[Ham Solo]

 

[superjedi]

How strange!
I hadn't seen that pic before. . . sure shows some different variations on that blaster.

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

How did MR miss this?!? I actually like the fact that it is different than Luke's on more than just the cylinders on the left side(which his probably had anyway)........that always bothered me.

On point to the new mounting disk, I'm not seeing allen bolts, but a button head type....I just can't make out whether the drive is a corroded phillips, or an allen.....when were allen heads first used on a wide scale basis?...and also in Germany ( if it is an HW knob). I do see everything else you're talking about regarding the radius and hollowed out flash suppressor.

Thanks for sharing Dave!

 

[OdiWan72]

GREAT pic...that should draw a line under the discussion if the the muzzle has any knurling or not...it DOES NOT! The lines are painted on!

I agree about the windage knob.
Does that mean CE will rework his mounts?

THANKS for sharing David, what´s the origin of that pic???

Markus

 

[mgoob]

Markus: the photos are from Entertainment Weekly Oct 19, 2007.
I went to the largest magazine shop in town & they had just taken down this issue (but I got the 1 left) and put up new issue.

Read all about it in this thread: http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=33234

 

[mgoob]

I agree: the light hitting the flash surpressor shows no indentations, but rather pen lines, just to suggest 3D.

Alot of those NX-01 panels hitting eBay these days are flat printouts drawn in 3D (added shadow etc.) for walls in the far background. Most have rubber buttons, but the implication of 3D is there, just as on this flash surpressor.

 

[mgoob]

I just scanned this 3" photo @ 3200dpi, hence the artifacts.
(image is smaller than fullsize file)

I disagree: I see 3 round topped, phillips screws that are slightly messed up from being unscrewed (not perfect +). No allen head screws.

 

[Clutch]

does this mean we'll have to paint our grips black now?

 

[Betamin]

When I got the issue in the mail and saw the pic, I thought "Oh crap, ANOTHER version of a SW blaster!!!!!" :lol

 

[PHArchivist]

Did I miss a step? Did we absolutely CONFIRM which blaster this is?

It would surprise me greatly that MR issed so many details...

ESPECIALLY the grips.

The scope mount: If MR never had an image of this side, that explains that.

The knurling: If MR wanted to improve and idealize the prop, that explains that.

The grips: This is a major characteristic that would be present on BOTH sides of the gun. If they were black (as on this gun in the pic) why would MR make them brown? makes me wonder if the gun in this pic is truly the hero gun MR replicated.

And those are worn Phillips screws on the mount.

 

[PHArchivist]

OK I guess I did miss a step. Below are the quotes from our resident expert Lonepigeon (bold added), from the previous thread.

But I'm still befuddled over the black grips. I've come to understand that a ROTJ version had black grips, but did not know an ESB did.

And why didn't MR do theirs with black grips?

I'm positive that blaster is real. I recognized it immediately from the suppressor and I know the ESB blasters VERY well. I also helped MR with theirs and I know they pretty much had to guess on the right side of Han's because there was no good reference until now. Also those are clearly new photos from the archives and the captions are quotes from an LFL archivist that I know.
The Luke sabers are the "ranch" and ROTJ "hero" we all know very well.

Lucasfilm never told MR To change details or anything to protect from counterfeit.
The photos are new, probably shot for Entertainment Weekly judging by the unified look of them all.
It's definitely the Hero 'Han' prop MR was going for. I know the reference they used and I discussed it with them several times.
My guess is the archives didn't really know what they had. They're archivists, not fans - that's why things are mislabeled at the exhibits sometimes. I've assisted and talked with several people from the archives on different occasions. I know they've been struggling to figure out what to display since they are spread so thin right now with the different exhibits. That is why the SWC4 exhibit was so unusual. I think they've probably been digging for stuff that hasn't been seen yet by fans and uncovered that blaster. To them it's probably junky compared to the nice ROTJ ones, but all the ROTJ's are out on display. EW probably asked for a Han blaster to shoot pics of and the best they had was this piece of "junk" they found recently in a box (this is all guesswork based on my experiences with the archives).

 

[Ham Solo]

If they are black, and not just poor lighting, they were probably painted black post production. I also believe the same was done to the MoM Han ROTJ blaster.

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

So any ideas which Hensoldt Wetzlar scope this knob could be from? Further, how could it even all go together? Could it be possible that this knob is glued over the Luke styled one?

I'm just trying to process all this since I thought this blaster was "done".:lol

 

[mgoob]

I can guarantee you that if MR's Head Designer had these photos 3.5 years ago, that's what they would have made.

The librarians at the Ranch are just that: specialists in their field of cataloging books (for LFL's huge, multi-disciplined library where GL gets his ideas from); to caring for props as a museum would. That means lots of white gloves but not totally sure of what is what b/c they aren't scifi specialists. From what I understand, they are getting better...

 

[mgoob]

If they are black, and not just poor lighting, they were probably painted black post production. I also believe the same was done to the MoM Han ROTJ blaster.

Why do you believe this?
The great photo we have of Solo holding this blaster (left side) in Norway has the grip hidden by his glove. I would think the whole pistol was just painted black.

Not being argumentative, just curious as to the logic :angel

 

[PHArchivist]

Why do you believe this?
The great photo we have of Solo holding this blaster (left side) in Norway has the grip hidden by his glove. I would think the whole pistol was just painted black.

Not being argumentative, just curious as to the logic :angel

What about screen-caps (the true test!) of the Norway sequences...? Do they show black or brown? or is it indeterminant?

 

[DL 44 Blaster]

I blew up this in JPEG form so I could save it .........I have it in BMP, but either way the grips look brown in this Hoth screen shot that is practically famous for ID'ing the left side details.

Could it be that the top pic posted by BD just looks like the grips are black, but are indeed so old and soaked with dirt and grease that they are virtually black now and not painted? The brass estuschon through the grips even looks totally tainted......

 

[Ham Solo]

DL 44 beat me to the punch on the ESB blaster.

As for the Han ROTJ, I have yet to see black grips being used "on screen". And believe me, I've looked and looked and looked and looked............

 

[PHArchivist]

Yup - those grips are DEFINITELY brown. And that knurling is clearly drawn on!