New Doctor Who Series Discussion *Spoilers*
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JBReplicas
Master Member
I also think the eyepatch has some property linked to neutralising the effect the silence have on people who see them.
I'd say so.
greatwazoo42
Master Member
Damn that Karsten installed a Randomizer in his Tardis Console...I want to jump to Saturday 9pm right now!!! I'd use the Time/Space Visualizer circuits to just capture the transmission and watch it but he hasn't built that section of the console yet. It's all Karst's fault!!!
timelordjedi777
Sr Member
Eye patch Amy looks hot and Rory looks like he might have gotten a tad bit tougher.
Gryffindor1991
Well-Known Member
I really don't get why everyone keeps complaining about the episodes being bad. I think it keeps getting better and better all the time. Theres only a few episodes I can't stand, and only 2 are from the Eleventh Doctor era, The Almost People and Rebel Flesh.
The episodes that seem to be getting the most complaints like Let's Kill Hitler, The God Complex, The Girl Who Waited, I love them. I think they are brilliant. and Closing Time was fantastic. I loved seeing the Cybermen again! and you have to realize, it was only to set up the finale and have a little bit of a fun episode before the seriousness of the finale took place. its like people think its too complicated and complex. if its too simple, wheres the fun in it?
I agree! 1-3 are the only ones that have died. I say have 4-11 in a special! or maybe find look alikes for 1-3 like what they did for the First Doctor in The Five Doctors and I don't understand what Eccleston's problem is. He should come back. some people loved him! If not, replace him with a look alike as well. I'm sure they can get one!
The episodes that seem to be getting the most complaints like Let's Kill Hitler, The God Complex, The Girl Who Waited, I love them. I think they are brilliant. and Closing Time was fantastic. I loved seeing the Cybermen again! and you have to realize, it was only to set up the finale and have a little bit of a fun episode before the seriousness of the finale took place. its like people think its too complicated and complex. if its too simple, wheres the fun in it?
I agree! 1-3 are the only ones that have died. I say have 4-11 in a special! or maybe find look alikes for 1-3 like what they did for the First Doctor in The Five Doctors and I don't understand what Eccleston's problem is. He should come back. some people loved him! If not, replace him with a look alike as well. I'm sure they can get one!
Force Commander
Sr Member
Love that cover!
Birdie
Master Member
Ok, rant-majeure rapproaching :lol
Warning, lack of paragraphs ahead.
My personal response to this question, you asked for it :love
I think they are bad because of the poor, muddled stories, the increasingly irrational, hyperactive, 'comedy turn' performance of Matt Smith, Moffat's obsession with over-complex mysteries, when he can't even control the tone of a 13 episode season, the companions who don't give a damn about losing their child, the plotholes, the explanation of each story at the conclusion by the Doctor as being some hospital/prison/alien child that doesen't understand it's function, the gigantic leaps of logic, the over-amped and unearned sentimentality, the weird 'shrinking' universe', the over-use of peripheral characters over developing empathy with the Doctor, the Doctor basically being an utter ******, the amount of episodes concluding that everything can be resolved with a father's love (seriously Steve, Mother issues, much?), the flat production values, the fact that RTD's seasons had one or two bad epis each to Moffat's one or two good ones, the lack of any sense of adventure, deserted in favour 'witty' dialogue, Amy Pond, conclusions that leave you going, at best, 'Huh?' at worst 'Is that it?.', that pug ugly sonic being everywhere, all the time, the crashing music mix overwhelming Matt Smith's weirdly mumbled, rambling expositions, it ain't scary, Moffat's love of throwing in irrelevant or inexplainable crap just because it 'looks cool', and finally, and most importantly, where are the stories? The show has become a series of mysteries, stitched togrether with sketched out filler and set pieces that usually amount to nothing but further obsfucation.
And
FEZZES ARE NOT COOL!
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Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
Now, Birdie, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel. :lol
Mercury
Sr Member
That is one loooong sentence. lol
I don't see the show that way myself but no-one will change anyone elses views as our ideas of what we like will all be unique. And I've watched Doctor Who since I was a little kid probably just as you have.
Birdie
Master Member
Yeah, I tuned out at Colin Baker, just couldn't bare to watch him :lol
Mercury
Sr Member
I agree with you there, he was hard to watch. Tom baker was my fave until Tennant and now Smith is. I also liked McGann and wish they had developed his live action character further although it needed to move the setting back to England. I'm American but think some stuff should stay where it originates. Doctor Who doesn't need to be Americanized IMHO.
Organic Mechanic
Sr Member
Gospel. :thumbsup
Gryffindor1991
Well-Known Member
The only thing that irritates me is that they make Amy seem more important than the Doctor when she isn't. Companions are supposed to be part of the story, not have the whole story revolve around them. The story arcs like they are, I guess I'm just used to it because the only episodes I've seen are from 2005 to now. I've only been watching for 2 years, but I know an awful lot because I'm really nerdy and I look it all up to learn more about it. I can't find any classics to watch really, unless its online and thats still hard. I'm only 19, so I couldn't have watched it growing up since I was born like 2 years after the classics ended. I like complicated and complex story lines. I think they are brilliant. Everything has flaws. I, personally thing Moffat is handling it well. I think the sonic screwdriver is really cool, and I want one. I actually have like all of Moffat's episodes, even when he wrote in the RTD era. The only ones I never liked were The Beast Below, The Girl in the Fireplace, and A Christmas Carol. I loved Let's Kill Hitler.
In reality, the River Song arc is getting a little old right now, so I do hope they close that up this series, and get rid of it for at least a series before bringing her back. I like Amy, but certain things she does just pisses me off. Like the way she treats Rory (calling him stupid and everything). In Let's Kill Hitler, she only asks the Doctor "have you found my daughter yet" and they leave it at that. Then in The God Complex, she tells him "if you see my daughter tell her to come see her parents" or something like that. Shes not really a good mother, but then again she has only seen her when she was just born, then as an adult. And killing Rory is just old now. I hope they stop and let him live.
In reality, the River Song arc is getting a little old right now, so I do hope they close that up this series, and get rid of it for at least a series before bringing her back. I like Amy, but certain things she does just pisses me off. Like the way she treats Rory (calling him stupid and everything). In Let's Kill Hitler, she only asks the Doctor "have you found my daughter yet" and they leave it at that. Then in The God Complex, she tells him "if you see my daughter tell her to come see her parents" or something like that. Shes not really a good mother, but then again she has only seen her when she was just born, then as an adult. And killing Rory is just old now. I hope they stop and let him live.
I agree with you also. McGann was good. He doesn't get enough credit since he was only in that movie. I wasn't a fan of the movie, but I like him. It would've definitely been better in an English setting rather than American. I'm American too and I think it should stay British. I watch Doctor Who 1) because its good and 2) because its British. If I wanted to watch Americanized stuff, I would watch everything else on tv here.
I'm about halfway through Season Two of McGann's audio adventures and I couldn't be happier with them. Each episode is 50min (perfect for a 5mi run). I find myself seeing him in my mind's eye perfectly. I never thought I'd enjoy audio Who as much as I do. We've had Daleks and Cybermen. Lucy is a great companion. It's pre-Time War so Time Lords pop in and out occasionally. All in all, good fun.
Gryffindor1991
Well-Known Member
I've never thought much about the audio adventures. I've only watched the televised episodes. I've never read any of the books, comics, or listened to audios. How do you go about getting them?
greatwazoo42
Master Member
You guys know I'm a complete McGann nut. To me his audio Doctor in the Big Finish stuff is perfect.
I love listening to McGann simultaneously with the Tennant/Smith stuff because McGann's doctor is...
so.
freakin'.
happy.
The Time War sure did a number on the doc because #8 has all the goofiness of #10 without all the angst.
so.
freakin'.
happy.
The Time War sure did a number on the doc because #8 has all the goofiness of #10 without all the angst.
Mercury
Sr Member
I've commented on this before, I think. As much as I like Karen, she's a talented actress and very hot, especially her accent, but she has become the main focus and that bothers me. A single companion should never become the main focus of a season or in Karen's case, 2 whole seasons. An episode, yes, even 2 if it's a cliff-hanger but they should remember "who" the show is named after. :lol
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