MY ROTS VADER HELMET

Discussion in 'Star Wars Costumes and Props' started by JDFett, Jan 31, 2006.

  1. JDFett

    JDFett Active Member

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    here is a picture...

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    i had to leave the shutter open to get good details...due to the ROTS being all black it dosnt photograph well...also no tripod for this so my hand wasnt super steady hence the slight focus problem

    here is the neck brace that came with it...

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    and a couple other shots....

    flash on with these

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    there is a few more in my photo album here...

    http://www.501neg.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=471&page=1


    SO....

    a master replica with no detail..$900

    a potumac ROTS reveal with neck brace...$850

    not having to wait 6 months only to receive a totally botched master replica helmet, complete with surface scratches and lousy paint jobs....

    Priceless.
     
  2. jme3

    jme3 Sr Member

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    This guy does the best ROTJ reveal neckbrace I've seen available to date and his expansion screw replicas are fantastic as well.

    Oh, nice helmet there too..
     
  3. darth_manu

    darth_manu Well-Known Member

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    Portumac's i assume?
    looks darn great
    how much did you pay for it all?
     
  4. SithLord

    SithLord Sr Member

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    Nice helmet...it would be interesting to put it next to an MR for size comparison....

    :cheers,

    Thomas
     
  5. Megatron

    Megatron Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Nice but why did the dome underside not have a smooth finish? Spend all that time on details but missed that one.
     
  6. LogansRunner

    LogansRunner Well-Known Member

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    Says $850.
    Nice helmet.
     
  7. JDFett

    JDFett Active Member

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    i asked myself the same thing, but you really cant see it when it's on...i think finishing the underside would have been a plus, but i really isnt needed..IMO
     
  8. Boba Frett

    Boba Frett Sr Member

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    Looks great :)
     
  9. DARTH ANIBAL

    DARTH ANIBAL Well-Known Member

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    WOW... Awesome helmet. Must...fight...urge...to buy...have to...keep...saving up...for wedding... :lol
     
  10. Darth Bill

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    Hmmmmm.......

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    vs.

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    "Ooh. Yeaaahhh, I'm gonna have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there..."

    :lol :lol :lol




    Russ
     
  11. GundamZeppelin

    GundamZeppelin Sr Member

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    From the looks of it to me potumac gives you a little more bang for your buck then M.R, I.M.O :thumbsup
     
  12. Darth Bill

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    Whatever.

    Just don't try calling it an ROTS helmet...

    It ain't even close.

    It's an ROTJ with a super-thin dome and a little extra neck. :rolleyes

    And it can be yours for just $50 less than the mac-daddy true ROTS.

    Wouldn't catch me paying that kinda scratch for someone to spiff up a Don Post. :lol




    Russ
     
  13. JaseTheHACK

    JaseTheHACK Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Don't forget the mouth droop. Great if you're trying to capture a OT look, shizen-mchausen if you're going for a ROTS.

    J
     
  14. fettpride

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    Awe c'mon ... it doesn't look THAT bad :confused


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  15. darth_manu

    darth_manu Well-Known Member

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    well it looks great, but definitely not ROTS screen accurate symetrical
     
  16. frosty

    frosty Sr Member

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    I think it looks like a decent helmet,with none of the mr problems.
    Nice score
     
  17. KevVader

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    Yeah, it does look nice....but it's basically an all black OT lid. How's the paint on it? I had one of Manuel's helmets way back and the paint was quite thin.....chipped easily.....
     
  18. JDFett

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    the paint so far is very good...nice and shiny an no MR defects...

    as for it not being ROTS...it most definatley is..I just inspected it and everything is exactly sysmetrical,,,not for nothing but i too had an MR on order until i found this. I also wanted to wear it and from what ive heard its a bit tight unless you have a long and narrow face like hayden...

    all i can say is it i much nicer than the supreme vader EP3 helmet and it has all the look of an EP3 helmet..i guess the picture isnt showing that, but then i had to up the shutter and let some light in cause it is so dark...i wanted you to see some of the details..this caused a scarafice in perfect focus as my hand is not super steady and i didnt have a tripod.

    the way i looked at it was i got the full EP3 look with the reveal and the neck brace for less than the MR...the MR's neck brace is super screen acurate from what I could tell, huh? not to mention the fact that it has no reveal detail...for 900 bucks they couldve done something about the little details and maybe watched for the scratched dome and the chips...IMO I got a much better deal and bargin

    edit-removed the words orange peel and placed in defects...the orange peel reference came form a post i read about the MR trooper helmets having an orange peel looking finish...did not pertain to the vader
     
  19. Megatron

    Megatron Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I have not seen any "MR orange peel"on any Vaders....
    For what you paid the underside should of been smooth.
    It will be interesting to see it next to the MR ROTJ reveal coming up.
    As for paint scratched on a dome again mine was only scuffed and finger prints are more noticble then the scuffs before I polished it.
    Its nice but I think the price is to high (did the stand come with it? If so why is it not black?)

    but if you are happy thats what counts...
     
  20. Darth Bill

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    Stop it, yer killin' me. :lol

    "Full EP3 look"...?? :confused

    You want to try and convince us that this...

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    ...is just as close to this...

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    ...as this???

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    You gotta be kidding me. :lol :lol

    I thought the people of this board took pride in their "quest for accuracy". :unsure

    As for:

    You wanna try and scare me up a screencap that actually shows any detail on the neck brace...??
    Better yet, try and find me an EP3 screencap that even shows the neck brace.

    Go on... I triple-dog dare ya. :lol

    You cancelled your order for an MR Vader to pay $50 less for a helmet that falls into the "close but no cigar" category...

    Boggles the mind.

    Look back through the thread....

    You think I'm the only one here saying "Well, sure, it's a Vader helmet but it's a lot more OT than ROTS"...??

    Like I said last night, "ain't even close". :unsure




    Russ
     
  21. DARTH ANIBAL

    DARTH ANIBAL Well-Known Member

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    Sith Lord 7768, you got a great-looking helmet at a good price, for all the details it includes. I say good buy :thumbsup
     
  22. ChrisM

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    Agreed. To each is own.

    Chris
     
  23. fettpride

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    Well, in case anyone missed my sarcasm in my above post, I'll draw a wee bit of attention to it ;)


    As far as the portumac ROTS is concerned, it is NOT symmetrical. I was able to inspect one of these last year up close and personal, and albeit a VERY NICE HELMET, it still is what it is, and that is exactly as Darth Bill described it, a "Modified OT Helmet". This is not necessarily a bad thing, but the modifications to it are very few. He added the "Stripes" upside each cheek, and extended the neck. The dome was "unchanged, and the size of the helmet, is roughly the same as a Deluxe, perhaps larger.

    Not trying to detract from a great show off thread, but there needs to be a little truth in advertising here. If you play up one of PortumacÂ’s helmets like this without ACTUALLY holding an MR, you will be giving false hope to a perspective buyer, and they might be sorely disappointed if they purchase one.

    If anyone is wondering what makes "Me" the know-it-all on this, first let me point out, that I am NOT trying to come across as a know-it-all on the subject, but I will at least explain why I do have a vested interest/knowledge of this helmet, vs. the MR

    The explanation is simple ... I was the first to bring an ROTS Helmet to the board, as well as e-bay, before anyone else, including Portumac. He's a very nice guy, but he did mod/make his ROTS AFTER I posted pics of my own. He even used some of my pics as reference when there was little available. Self-admittedly so. And I was ok with that.

    I was told I was an idiot for doing one of these bad boys, before reference was available. I did it anyway, full well knowing that it would never be accurate. I wanted it "close" for the ROTS premiere. My own ROTS derivative was painstakingly chopped into many pieces, and reconstructed in "True" symmetry. I've sold only two of these helmets, my personal copies, but the members that purchased them can attest to it's symmetry. Therefore, I do know EXACTLY what was done to the Portumac, vs. "My Own", vs "MR". I was knee deep in this project and reference for 6 months, so I can say that I know a little, because I took it on, when no one else would.

    What was the final outcome of my project? A perfectly symmetrical, slightly reduced sized Darth Vader Helmet. Is it ROTS accurate? Absolutely not. But as anyone that followed my progress over the course of the latter half of 2004 can attest, the end result was something that was surprisingly accurate to an ROTS Helmet in light of the severe lack of reference available to me at the time. Coincidentally, I had just finished my project when all of the Studio Shots came available in late 2004 :lol Did it * me off? Absolutely, but I knew the risk when I started it. Which is why I am now an owner of an MR ROTS helmet ... I'm not too full of myself not to buy one because I made my own first ;)


    Again, not absolutely ROTS accurate, but it was the first rendition that hit the prop boards. You be the judge ...


    SAMPLE


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    More can be found on my site ... www.fparmor.com

    Again, not trying to derail a perfectly good show off thread, just trying to help get it on the right track. And no, I DO NOT sell these helmets .. so please DO NOT PM for info ...


    FP
     
  24. darienvader

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    I for one will never forget it, either FP. You and WPK did an outstanding job on the whole costume & I applaud your efforts on it. It STILL blows me away..

    *Oh, and as for the Portumac helmet being RotS . . . no way. The mouth and cheek droop are dead give-aways. BUT . . . if you're happy with it, then who cares?.?. :)
     
  25. Darth Bill

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    Well, I'M snippy about this because...


    ...I'm getting a little bit fed up with the whole "Arrr, I be a bootlegger, fair and true. A pox on the licensees, through and though..." mentality.

    "Totally botched"...?

    Um, not quite.

    Errors made, sure, but something that MR is addressing and will correct.

    "Lousy paint jobs"...?? "Orange peeling"...??? On the Vaders?.

    Where'd that come from??
    Or is that just an attempt to feel good about a purchase by tearing down the other piece?

    Must've been glossing over the part of the threads where people say "Despite the problems with this helmet, it's still an awesome item"....

    And it is.

    The MR Vader has quickly become one of my favourite helmets.

    So don't expect me to play "Stroke The Bootlegger's Ego" when I see him trying to tear down the official piece.




    Russ
     
  26. Darth Kahnt

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    True, the portumac helmet is not ROTS accurate.......

    But as others have already said, if he likes it who cares?

    I think both the portumac and the MR are nice lids but if I was going for a ROTS look I would go with the MR for sure.
     
  27. Montagar

    Montagar Legendary Member Community Staff

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    I would agree with you if the original post was just a show-off without the silly swipe at another vader helmet... so because of that, comparisons are inevitable.
     
  28. JediCarl

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    Some of you guys are far too sensitive.

    Yeesh.
     
  29. Montagar

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    If you are referring to me... that's not being sensitive, that is just pointing out that he invited comparisons with his comments. :rolleyes
     
  30. GundamZeppelin

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    There is a bit to much nit picking over the helmet. Heres the way i see it, get mad or be an over active M.R fan boy if you want. As far as accuracy go's Master Replicas has it
    on the other hand portumac gives you a revel look and a neck brace.
    So one has somthing the other dosen't have, I don't see why it's so hard to go hey thats a cool helmet instead of busting the guys balls over why the M.R helmet is better, it's childish in my eyes.
     
  31. Montagar

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    Again, I would completely agree with your comments as well, but it was the original post that brought up MR, not just people making the comparison on their own. Quite honestly the "MR fan boy" comment is as childish if not more so than any other comment made in this thread. At least that's the way I see it. ;)
     
  32. JDFett

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    okay folks...ive come to the conclusion that you are all way too bent up and frustrated. I will tell you this...I have pictures of the actual helmet that i used for comparison from the MOS displays in boston. that being said...

    when i look at this...
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    i really dont see much difference in this..keep in mind that the slant of the MOS display is due to the fact that it is only the top portion of the reveal and that causes it to rock back

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    and as far as the gentleman challenging me on the neck brace issue...i also have pictures of the actual one used in the movie also on display in boston...

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    the only thing to keep in mind is pieces are missing...you can see the holes where the other pieces were attached, and you can see the vertical clips that are on one side but missing on the other...the only thing that does not seem 100% acurate is the missing middle piece. also i took my picture upside down...

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    now im sorry...MR does not have a neck brace anywhere even close to that..a flat black piece of fiberglass does not a neck brace make.

    also i never intended to cause such an uproar with some of you guys, apparently your feelings get hurt a bit too quick. I was actually cracking a bit of a joke with the mastercard comment, sorry if you couldnt handle it. didnt ask for those of you who took offence to go on the rampage and start badmouthing my purchase. As far as I can tell this helemt is a very close reproduction of the ROTS. He has other helmets for sale including the ROTJ and they are different and do not look the same as this. So if his fan made stuff does not meet your criteria of perfection then its a matter of opinion i guess. I like the helmet and i think seeing as the neck brace usually sells for over 250 bucks on ebay, minus the fact i did not pay for shipping, that puts the cost of this helmet alone around 500 bucks. I think i did the right thing by purchasing it, im sorry that some of you dont agree

    one last thing...here is a picture of both masks offered by him..first is ROTJ, second is ROTS..i can clearly see the difference....

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  33. JaseTheHACK

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    The only thing that's "bent up" is that so-called symmetrical helmet. Come on, surely you can see that's it's in NO WAY symmetrical. *, if someone says they've chopped up a rotj to make it symmetrical, at least fix the mouth droop.

    Look, I'm happy that you like your helmet. But seriously, I wouldn't have paid $850 for a bootleg customed from a ROTJ helmet with a neck brace that doesn't appear with the hero helmet on screen.

    And the bootlegging is made even less palatable by the fact that you've essentially paid the same as what the licensed version costs.

    :confused :unsure

    J
     
  34. Montagar

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    SithLord7768: Just to be clear, and I only speak for myself, I have no problem with you or the helmet you purchased. I was simply responding to the people that couldn't understand why others were doing a comparison and discussing the MR helmet when, in their view, everyone should just be discussing the helmet that you had purchased.

    I only used the term "silly" in referring to the humor that you used based on the fact that I personally considered it poor SA ("situational awareness" for the non-military folks :)) in light of all that was going on with the MR helmet.

    As to your helmet, I really like the "reveal" neck brace and think that it looks great. :thumbsup
     
  35. JDFett

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    well first off there is not any point in this thread anymore. it was meant to show my new purchase not as a"lets bash the guy who bought a portumac helmet that stated it was RTOS but it really is a bootleg ripoff"

    personally, the last time i checked the word symetrical meant that both sides were identical. to me both eyes are symetrical, both cheek sections are symetrical and everything else is as well...i really dont know what you are talking about with this mouth droop thing. i can not see that in the helmet i purchased. and in that picture i can see why you may think that due to the way it sits on the neck. that causes the mask to fall shortly to the right giving the appearance of a droop, but whatever...

    what are you talking about as far as the neck brace not showing up in the hero version? the picture i showed you was the reveal mask that hayden wore on the table.

    anyway there is no sence in talking anymore about it, seeing as you are all knowing and i am an idiot. :rolleyes kudos for you and your master replica. just liek the two sabers i have from them that they admitted to being larger than the screen used ones due to batteries and electronics. they are all about acuracy i guess :thumbsdown


    edit - i forgot to mention...the MR helmet did come with a stand which was wonderful...the one in the picture is one i made...and i like the natural wood look

    i guess i'll just take my inferior prop and go home if noone wants to play mith me
    *sarcasim BTW...i was starting to feel like i was in kindergarten again*
     
  36. JaseTheHACK

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    Actually, I accept your point about the neck brace- yours is a "table" helmet so it should have a detailed neck brace. I apologise for that.

    But I have to insist about the asymmetry. Even on your front-on shot, you can see the mouth drops down on the right, the same as the original trilogy helmets did. I'm disappointed that this wasn't fixed on your helmet.

    J
     
  37. Neon Sentry

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    Not to jump in here, but the fact is that either A. Your sense if humor is apparently not very humorous, or B. You made a mistake, and instead of admitting to it, you're chalking it up as a joke, and that everyone here is uptight and childish as a result

    It's not simply a result of unaligned angles with picture comparisons. There are serious proportional differences, which lean it closer towards an OT than a PT, and these flaws are clearly obvious

    Nobody's trying to say you made a bad purchase (well, one guy, but still) but what we're saying is that you made annunfair and inaccurate comparison, especially with your remark as to a Force FX saber not being screen-accurate... you just said that a toy (albeit an expensive one) is not accurate, therefore the entire company is at fault for your not being able to see a droopy Vader grill

    Go ahead and enjoy your helmet, I would as well, but I wouldn't straight up lie about it's accuracy, then get pissy when people call you on your bs
     
  38. JDFett

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    for your information i too had a MR on order and waited 6 months for it. I then started to see all the problems with the helmet in the other thread. so the comment was made as a joke and i dont have to cover up any bs...think what you want.

    i personally think the helmet looks great and im glad i spent less for it and in my opinion got more for my money...that is not bs but the truth..as is the fact that numerous people...some of who are trashing me in this thread were making all sorts of hate MR replies in the other thread not even a week ago. I think this is something how you and those like you make comments that you would never dare make in font of someone. I have nothing to hide and in my opinion if you want to gamble with getting a MR right now with all the QC problems and have to take a chance at sending it back because they f'd them all up...go crazy. I may even reconsider getting one if they ever get their heads out of there * but until then, i would rather spend my cash on something that i know looks good and came from a respectible prop maker.

    and BTW when did i ever throw bs out about anything....i believe the original comment set up like the MC commercials..indicated acurate prices for both helmets and the fact that i cancelled my order before i got a screwed up helmet and all the issues relating to it. and as far as i can see the fan made helmet may droop very slightly to the right but no where as bad as the ROTJ helmet...lets not forget that the fans that make these dont have access to the computerized molding machines they used to make the molds for ROTS. I think the slight, if even noticable to the everyday fan, droop you speak of is the only non symetrical part of this helmet then i'll take it over the scratches, paint drips, gouges, and having to send it back for repairs.

    oh and spiderman...im glad your helmet rocked...you are but the few at this moment who got lucky and im glad for you...and your helmet does kick *, no doubt

    bottom line is this...MR is supposed to be the best :rolleyes but i have not seen this yet....also the lightsabers are not a toy...at least thats what they tell you on the information that comes with them...says it is a replica and is not a toy..hmmmm??? fell short on the acuracy i guess there...get your facts straight
     
  39. Neon Sentry

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    I've never made a comment bashing MR, ever. Go ahead and enjoy your helm (as I said I would too in your position) and go ahead and enjoy the smaller cost as well, but don't try and convince people that you're holding something of higher quality, or even comparable accuracy to the MR version

    That's all I was saying. If you were to actually read what I was typing, you'd have read everything I just typed, with a different choice of words

    ENJOY. YOUR. HELM.

    ENJOY. THE. VALUE.

    DO. NOT. BLATANTLY. LIE. TO. MAKE. YOURSELF. FEEL. BETTER.

    Simple as that, bucko
     
  40. darth_manu

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    personally i think it does look great, with the reveal details/neckbrace and all, definitely a great fan made helmet, but i think the guys are just saying the helmet + mask is not symmetrical as it should be for a ROTS helmet, but still a great helmet nevertheless. if MR would to do a full reveal it would probably costs around $1500 so for half that price you should be satisfy with the purchase even though theres a few symmetrical problems. but hey its like half the price. not to mention portumac's basic ROTS helmet is around $500 or so, its still $450 cheaper than the MR, and its around 90% as good.
     
  41. Neon Sentry

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    Sorry for the double post...

    I forgot where I read that all the Force FX sabers were produced down to the last detail, despite the fact that numerous saber designs wouldn't be able to hold up to the rigors of a toy. Oh, that's right, I didn't read that. Because sometimes they have to change a design so that it doesn't snap in half when you use your toy

    To even begin to imply that the Force FX series was meant to be 100% accurate in any form whatsoever is ludicrous. If you honestly cannot tell the difference between a $350 saber that sits in an acrylic case or a $100 saber that people buy to play with, then it's quite clear where your confusion came from
     
  42. JDFett

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    i never once stated that my helmet was better than the MR..if it comes to you in perfect shape like one would expect. I chose this helmet because

    1) i wanted a reveal...as to me it is more accurate in that respect

    2) I know portumac reputation and i knew i would get what i saw

    3) the detailed neckbrace

    4) bang for the buck

    never said it was better than MR, but they are having there issues right now...and i didnt want to take the chance...had i never seen the thread in this forum about the problems..i would probably be sending my helmet back to them as we speak...

    as far as your comment on the sabers....hey dont advertise something as a replica if it isnt...wouldnt that be considered false advertising regardless how i feel about the "toy"? and i do know the difference...
     
  43. Neon Sentry

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    The fact is that you took an open swipe at MR, when there shouldn't have been any comparison whatsoever, other than features or price. By insulting them, and implying that yours was superior, you opened the floodgates for this yourself
     
  44. JDFett

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    dude it wasnt an insult..it was stated fact on the other thread...and as far as the reports were goin on the other thread...my helmet was better...not better than a perfect MR...shoot if they were all coming in perfect on that thread i would never have cancelled my order. but as far as that thread they were all sucking out, so when i originally posted this thread to show my new helmet i poked a bit o fun at the QC mishap of MR...god why an i even explaining myself to you...this is rediculous.

    FOR THE RECORD EVERYONE.....

    If i misled anyone on this thread to think that i was implying that my fan made helmet with its small imperfections was superior to a perfect MR ROTS helmet then that was NOT MY INTENTION. I was simply stating it was a better deal for the money with the extras and without the current problems. If you want 100% accurate then i suggest you purchase the MR ROTS helmet as I had intended on doing as well...just be forewarned that you will not get what you pay for right now until they fix the QC problems that were spoken about in the other thread.

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    ARE WE ALL CLEAR NOW?
     
  45. JaseTheHACK

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    No one is arguing that MR have had some QC problems.

    I'm saying that in my opinion, your helmet isn't up to the standard which I personally would require from a replica of a ROTS helmet. Firstly, the dome is too thin, is not the correct shape, and it is not smooth on the inside. Secondly, the face is noticably assymetrical- the eyes are different shapes and the mouth droops to one side. Third, it has been produced by an unlicensed person in competition with a Lucasfilm license holder that incidentally is an affiliate of this forum.

    "Arrr, I be a bootlegger, fair and true. A pox on the licensees, through and though..."

    That mentality is never justifiable- even when MR are having temporary quality control issues.

    Crystal, I hope.

    J
     
  46. WebChief

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    I just want to ask one thing here...

    When exactly did the RPF suddenly become a MR * kissing group? I may not have the high post count like others but trust me... I've been here a long time and I can tell you that this forum used to be all about CREATING props and not supporting big licensees. Now it seems to be more about people opening up their wallets and spending small fortunes on stuff and then showing it off.

    Insulting Portumac as a BOOTLEGGER is a bit pointless as if it weren't for people like him then this whole forum would never exist in the first place.
     
  47. vaderdarth

    vaderdarth Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I don't think we should discourage harsh criticism of any License Holder whether it's MR or any other if criticism needs to be made. We do need to do it with dignity and respect however. That is what the COC directs us to do. You don't have to use foul language or resort to name calling to make your point about your disdain for the quality control problems. As long as you voice your opinion with a bit of professionalism......I don't see the criticism as a problem. I'm not insinuating that anyone has been unprofessional by the way. At least I didn't read any uncalled for comments. I don't particularly care for the idea of bashing a vendor (licensed or other) for the purposes of increasing sales for another vendor. But by the same token, if Portumac's bucket fills a need where MR falls short........who are we to discourage it??? Please don't seriously think that Portumac's helmet will appeal to everyone. It doesn't. Some people only buy MR products because of the name...........most buy it because their product is what the buyer is looking for in most respects. Some folks won't buy anything that carries the MR logo. Who cares. Buy what you want and smile alot when you get it. That is what the RPF is about..............and if you can't buy it.........make it.

    If you want a 100% sold out MR supporting forum.......head on over to Rebelscum. If you want honest criticism.........there are lots of folks here who can be objective about the product and they make good points.

    Do yourself one favor..........don't immediately agree with the viewpoint of someone who doesn't actually have the MR Vader helmet in their own two hands. If you want to get an honest opinion.........listen to the guys wearing the thing in pics........they will give you some valuable information. Anyone else's opinion is being form either thru pics or from other people's reports. I'm not saying that some of those points aren't valid as well.........but you should probably listen to the first hand reports moreso than 2nd or 3rd hand information.

    I have an MR helmet.......I love mine. :) I am quite impressed with the fan made ROTS buckets as well. No they aren't screen accurate, but they are quite nice and they do fill a need for those who just don't want the headaches of sending stuff back.

    Personally, the fan helmets fall a bit short of my expectations, but I'm looking for the screen accuracy. Others may not.

    Live and let live.

    Dave :)
     
  48. StarWars Collector

    StarWars Collector Well-Known Member

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    I just got this mail from MR

    Dear Master Replicas Customer,

    This letter is to provide an update to all of our customers who have ordered a Darth Vader helmet. As you may know, Master Replicas is facing some quality issues with all editions of the Darth Vader Episode III Helmets. All shipments of the helmets have been placed on hold until these issues are resolved. This includes the Limited, Signature and Dual Signature Editions. First, we would like to apologize for this inconvenience. We know how long many of you have been anticipating the release of this iconic prop replica. Rest assured that Master Replicas is committed to doing our best to satisfy all of our customers needs and will do whatever is necessary to rectify this problem. Some customers may have received helmets with a small scuff mark on the top of the dome. We have thoroughly analyzed this problem and have determined that this can occur during shipping. Therefore, in order to accommodate everyone most efficiently, we are contacting everyone who has purchased a Darth Vader helmet to alert them of this potential issue. We will be performing a 100% quality inspection of the existing stock in our warehouse. Only helmets that meet our high quality standards will be accepted and repacked properly to avoid potential damage during shipping. These will then be used as replacements for any defective helmets returned for replacement. We estimate that this inspection will take three weeks to complete, and expect to resume shipping shortly thereafter. Additionally we have discovered that the embroidery on one of the storage bags can also scuff the helmet. This component will also be replaced for all customers. Since the damage occurred after our inspection in the factory, there is no way to determine how many helmets were actually damaged in shipping. However, we anticipate that the inventory of quality products will accommodate all replacement requests. We will have final confirmation of the replacement inventory once our inspection is completed. For those customers who have not yet received their helmets, please understand that all replacement requests must be processed first. We apologize for delaying your shipment further, but we are making every effort to ensure you receive the highest quality collectible possible. We will let you know in the next few weeks when helmet shipments will resume. This replacement program is completely voluntary. However, if you are not satisfied with your helmet for any reason, Master Replicas will be delighted to provide you with a replacement or a full refund. If you did not purchase your helmet from Master Replicas or an Authorized Retailer, we will still REPLACE your damaged helmet. We apologize that we are not able to refund your money. If you would like a replacement for your helmet: 1. Please email darthvader@masterreplicas.com no later than Friday, February 24, 2006 to request a Replacement Authorization number. We will also provide you with complete instructions and a pre-paid return shipping label to return your helmet. Please note that we will require all of the original packaging with all of the original packing materials. If you would like to return your helmet for a refund: 1. If you purchased your helmet directly from Master Replicas please email darthvader@masterreplicas.com no later than Friday, February 24, 2006 to request a Refund Authorization number. We will provide you with complete instructions and a pre-paid return shipping label to return your helmet. Please note that we will require all of the original packaging with all of the original packing materials. Upon receipt of your helmet, we will credit your account for the total amount charged, including shipping. This will take approximately 7-10 business days after receipt of the defective helmet. 2. If you purchased your Darth Vader Helmet from one of our Authorized Retailers, please contact them to arrange for a refund. Once again we apologize for this inconvenience, Master Replicas will do everything in our power to remedy the situation to your satisfaction in a timely manner.

    Thank You.
    The Team at Master Replicas


    No word about the Clone helmets though.

    Cheers,
    Leo
     
  49. KevVader

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    SithLord7768...you do have a nice lid and you should be very proud of it. I'm glad that Manuel's helmets now have a thicker coat of paint as that was a major issue with is earlier lids. As far as it it being a screen accurate ROTS lid...sorry, it's not. It's a slightly cleaned up ROTJ lid as evidenced by the mouth droop, which has been tightened up, but not eliminated. Also you can still see evidence of the neck flare...which is less pronounced with the elongated neckline..but it's still there.

    You're right, it seems like a better value if you are after a fully detailed reveal. However, the MR is cast straight from the source at LFL...you really can't get a better pedigree than that. Also if you match a screen cap of the screen ROTS and the MR lids...they match up exactly...while the Portumac lid has different details.

    Also, to get the smooth finish on the interior of the dome, a seperate silicone jacket was used to smooth out the interior of the dome flaps (check the Making Of Vader featurette in the box set, it can be clearly seen there)....so this adds cost in terms of labour and materials...and another detail that the Portumac lid doesn't have. The neckseal...although you can't see it on screen..I suspect that that was the neckseal that was worn by Hayden in every other shot except the operating table scene.

    At the end of the day tho, you have a great helmet with a lot of detail...so be happy with it. It's just when you take a cheap shot at MR, in good humour or not, which is making a truly screen accurate ROTS Vader lid....that's when people get testy....and yes,MR has had their QC issues...but I'm sure that even those issues will be corrected soon. Even with my rants lately with the MR QC issues....I'm very much looking forward to getting my lid.:)
     
  50. KevVader

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    Thanks for the update Leo....well, it sucks that we have to wait longer....but I'll do it to get a perfect lid.
     

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