MY 2ND ATTEMPT AT A 1:1 BUST *Lando*

Discussion in 'Sculpture and Makeup Effects' started by billy1974, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. billy1974

    billy1974 Well-Known Member

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    NEW PICS PAGE 2

    This is my second attempt at a lifesize, bust. You guessed it (or at least I hope you did :confused ) It is notorious gamble, cardplayer, scoundrel, Lando Calrissian, as he appeared in ESB. It was made using Chavant clay, it will be molded and then cast in latex, and completed with glass eyes, hair (unsure what I am going to use, as of now), a better mustache (the one on him now is one of those cheapo "mexican villian" ones :D , and blue shirt with black leather collar (I have to add a little "shoulder" to him), and maybe even a cape collar. I still need to do some tweaking, and add skin texture and wrinkles to him, to really bring him to life. Let me know what you guys think, good or bad. PM me if you have any questions. Thanks, Bill

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  2. Hadleys Hope

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    Looks nice, are you going to add ears?



    Paul
     
  3. billy1974

    billy1974 Well-Known Member

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    HAHAHA, got me Paul :lol . I forgot to mention, I need to give him some ears. Bill
     
  4. Hadleys Hope

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    :lol

    Cant wait to see them.


    Paul
     
  5. TomSpinaDesigns

    TomSpinaDesigns Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Gettin' there man.

    I think that building up the head and neck (and even just roughing out the ears) will help you figure out the overall shape and tweak the proportions.

    I shot you an email back with some specific suggestions for improvements.

    Important thing is that you keep going and improving.

    Tom
     
  6. JoeR

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    Very cool. Can't believe that is your second sculpt. Thanks for sharing.

    As above would be easier to judge proportions with ears and maybe a wig.

    Joe
     
  7. OdiWan72

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    I´m always thrilled to see what great sculpts people are able to come up with.
    Congrats on your second.... :)

    While I like the overall appearance, I can´t really make out the likeness of Billy D.
    Don´t get me wrong, please....but something is "off".

    Anyway...great workmanship :thumbsup

    Markus
     
  8. TMP

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    I look forward to se it evolve and how it finally turns out. Keep up the good work. :thumbsup
     
  9. rileyreplicas

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    Great job. I would listen to whatever input Tom gives you, he will not steer you wrong :) I would give some advise myself but since I have never sculpted a human likeness before I will just sit back and enjoy the pics :)
     
  10. DL 44 Blaster

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    HELLO...is it me your looking for....

    Sorry, this bust just reminded me of that Lionel Ritchie video back in the day...I'm showing my age now :$

    It's definitely got the makings of a good Lando.

    Steve :thumbsup
     
  11. SonofJorEl

    SonofJorEl Well-Known Member

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    Crack open a Colt 45, and do your thaaang.
     
  12. billy1974

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    Made some major progress, thanks for the help Tom :thumbsup . Ears are just roughed out now, want to make sure the placement is right before I dig them in. Also gotta add some "meat" to the bottom back of head. Thanks for the input guys. Looking less like Lionel Ritche, and more like Billy Dee now :D . Let me know what you think guys, good and bad. On a scale of 1 Colt 45 to 10 Colt 45s, what would you guys give him, as of now. I still have alotta work to do, just want to know if I am headed in the right direction. Thanks, Bill

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  13. billy1974

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    Fixed the eyes, I think I am in the home stretch now. Still needs work, but I don't think any major changes. Give me some input guys, especially if something looks "off" to you. I am posting pics because I want opinions/recommendations, not because I want to "show off". So if you think it looks "wrong" in certain areas, let me know, and I will try to fix it :thumbsup . The ears are not done, just roughed out, so please don't comment on them :lol . Bill

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  14. billy1974

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    This may help a little :lol . Bill

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  15. Sith Prop Lord

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    Nice job, looks good so far. There is one thing that seems to take away from the overall sculpt and that's the positioning of the upper set of teeth. From the pics, where you have them now it seems to be where the lower set of teeth should be. I think if that could be adjusted, your sculpt will be right on the money. Looking forward to seeing the final sculpt.
     
  16. billy1974

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    You are sooooo right Sith Prop Lord, I just raised the mouth, and then the chin area using photoshop and it looks much better. I wish it was this easy to adjust the actual sculpt :cry . Seriously though, it shouldn't be too hard to fix. Sometimes, you stare at a sculpt so long, you just get used to it being that way, and a fresh set of eyes really helps. Thanks for the input Sith Prop Lord :thumbsup . More pics coming soon. Bill
     
  17. Hellclaw 01

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    Hmm. For some reason this makes it look more like Richard Prior than Billy Dee to me.
     
  18. Darth Kahnt

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    I'm with Markus on this one. Not to insult your work at all but I can;t see Billy Dee's likeness either. Theres just something missing.

    Great craftsmanship though. I'm sure you will be able to get past anything that may not seem right. :thumbsup
     
  19. clancampbell

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    Looks more like Richard Pryor to me....

    Rich
     
  20. ob1al

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    Good progress so far IMO - PM sent with a few ideas.
     
  21. billy1974

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    Thanks again everyone for your input. Goodbye Lionel Ritchie, goodbye Richard Pryor, hello Billy Dee Williams' much less attractive half-brother :lol . As you can see I have made alotta progress thanks to the help from fellow board members, especialy Wampa, thanks for the advice and great reference material Tom :thumbsup . I will be posting full pics soon, just gotta do some more work on it. I am really excited about this project, I think the finished product will surprise alot of people here. Gimme some feedback guys... Thanks, Bill
     
  22. TomSpinaDesigns

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    just seein' the latest update and you've made a LOT of improvement.

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  23. DL 44 Blaster

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    WOW the overlap looks fantastic. I'm sure you're on your way to completing a great Lando :thumbsup

    Keep the progress pic coming.

    Steve
     
  24. rileyreplicas

    rileyreplicas Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    It just keeps getting better and better :) I can't wait to see it complete.
     
  25. billy1974

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    I am finally getting the hang of this sculpting thing :D . I still have more work to do, but I finally feel like I am "getting there". Please give me some feedback guys, it has really helped in the past :thumbsup . Bill

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  26. DL 44 Blaster

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    MUUUUUCH ....BETTER... :cheers
     
  27. Hecubus114

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    very good - add some eyebrows and a stash and it'll look just like him.
     
  28. TomSpinaDesigns

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    MUCH improved Billy.

    Way to stick with it and keep workin' man. You're really making a lot of progress.

    I sent you a few thoughts in reply to your email but you're on the right track.

    Tom
     
  29. MR BARLOW

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    Wow, thats looking way more like him, Seriously itd be neat to see it with photoshopped hair , stash etc...

    Keep goin .

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  30. Ben_Forsaken

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    to me it seems his eyes are uneven. His right eye, *left looking at the pics* seems too far forward, or his other eye is further back.

    What I mean is, they don't look like matching orbital sockets in the same skull.
     
  31. Noeland

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    It's shaping up. Looking really close now.

    I would like to add one thing. The fakey stash he had on before, I know hair is a very difficult thing to reproduce, but notice how BDW's beard isn't perfectly thick, like Tom Selleck, it has uneven lip coverage (for lack of a better way to say it). I have found in doing pencil and ink portraits for many years that it is actually the imperfections that really capture a person some times.

    But really, you are doing great so far, and I have enjoyed the progress. Please keep posting those pictures.

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  32. billy1974

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    Thanks Neoland, and everyone else for the input :thumbsup . Here is the latest pic, I think I am really close now, just tiny bit of tweaking to do. I hope I can do his hair/mustache justice, because like Neoland stated, this will really help in capturing the character. I have someone really talented that is going to help me with the hair ;) . I don't want to sculpt the mustache/hair, I am not a fan of sculpted hair, I think it takes away from the illusion of "reality". I will doing this as a foam filled latex bust, with glass eyes, "real" hair/mustache/eyebrows, and clothed shoulders. I am even going to try to find his inner cape material, or something really close to it :D .Let me know what you think guys.

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  33. Egon Spengler

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    This is so very awesome. I love it. I wish someone would start a basic head sculpting tutorial on here. I'd love to try something like this but have absolutely no idea where to start. So impressive. Congradulations on a job well done.
     
  34. kdawg1

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    I know that guy, he sold me some Colt 45 a few years back ............... Looks good keep up the great job.
     
  35. Darth Kahnt

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    Excellent improvements. Looking much much better.
     
  36. billy1974

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    Thanks for the kind words guys :D . DarkLordVader, the best advice I can give you is grab a lump of clay, and just keep working on it until it starts to look like something, thats what I did :lol . I am sure there are books and videos that can help, I am sure I could have avoided alot of hurdles if I had educated myself alittle before I dove in, but I seriously think that the best way to learn is to DO. Bill
     
  37. Too Much Garlic

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    WOW, I'm completely floored by how this is progressing. It is really taking shape and Mr. Dee Williams' features and "spirit" is definitely beginning to show.

    At first I didn't really know how to comment on the project, but these latest updates have definitely taken me by surprise and I simply had to express my amazement of this turn-around for the better.

    Keep up the good work. :thumbsup
     
  38. billy1974

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    Thanks NoHumorMan, and everyone else for the kind words :D . He is molded up (thanks Tom :thumbsup ), and I will start a new thread in a few weeks with the complete/finished foam-filled latex bust. Here is a picture that was taken of the clay sculpt right before Tom and I molded it up (Tom did most of the work :lol ). The photo is Half Billy Dee, and half my sculpt. The angles are alittle off, which is making the eyes look alittle wacky. The photo of Billy Dee is from straight on, and slightly from the right, and my sculpt was photographed alittle "from underneath", and slightly from the left. I also sculpted mine with the mouth slightly more closed (for molding reasons), so the lower lip is alittle higher. That being said, I think everything lines up quite well, and I think that once the bust is completed, it will be unmistakably "Lando" ;) . Let me know what you think guys.

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  39. Beagle Bill

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    Hey, Billy. I just read this post from start to finish and watched the rough sculpture at the begining morph into an excellent likeness of Billy D. You finally nailed it, and did an awesome job, man, especially for it to be your second bust. :thumbsup :thumbsup Hope my next one turns out that good. :) Keep us posted.

    Bill
     
  40. DL 44 Blaster

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    'Bout time for an ice cold Colt 45 baby B)

    The final product is nothing short of Billy Dee Williams unmistakeably.....

    FANTASTIC.

    Steve
     
  41. TomSpinaDesigns

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    I'll throw my congrats in on this as well.

    Billy... you stuck it out, worked VERY hard and made major improvements in your technique and likeness work.

    Having seen this go from lump of clay to Lando, I'm very impressed with your progress bro.

    Tom
     
  42. kdawg1

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    Bingo...... That looks Great. Way to hang in there. I have got to try this myself some day.
     
  43. rileyreplicas

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    Billy,

    Awesome, awesome job. You went from a very good sculpt to a fantastic sculpt :) It looks like Billy Dee. Great work and I can not wait to see the finished product as well as your next sculpt.
     
  44. billy1974

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    Thanks for all the kind comments guys :D . Not being a "seasoned" sculptor, positive feedback really means alot to me. As you can see by the first pictures of my sculpt, I have learned/improved alot since I started this project. I am really excited to start another project, once Lando is totally completed. I want to publicly thank Tom for giving my Calrissian some skin texturing, you made it look easy Tom :lol . If you guys think it looks good now, wait to you see him all haired up, and in "Lando attire" B) .
     

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