darth_myeek
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Mr. Lucas spins it on Jon Stewart.
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Kittlemeier
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Re: GL spins it on Jon Stewart.
I thought this was something about the new Green Lantern movie until I opened the link.
I thought this was something about the new Green Lantern movie until I opened the link.
Qui-Gonzalez
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Re: GL spins it on Jon Stewart.
Wow...that is one way to open it up!
Wow...that is one way to open it up!
darth_myeek
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Darklighter
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This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Viacom.
darth_myeek
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Here it is:
I actually think he did a good job. He's witty and obviously has thought about the prequals a lot.
http://screencrave.com/2010-01-11/votd-george-lucas-on-jon-stewart/
I actually think he did a good job. He's witty and obviously has thought about the prequals a lot.
http://screencrave.com/2010-01-11/votd-george-lucas-on-jon-stewart/
darth_myeek
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Thanks Brad, I'll update the top.
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Paracord Junky
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"take it or leave it; it's just a movie." yeah, way to quell fan bitterness there, George.
Very fun interview.
He should have been asked....and forced to answer if he would be open to making ep VII-IX
He should have been asked....and forced to answer if he would be open to making ep VII-IX
jlee562
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"take it or leave it; it's just a movie." yeah, way to quell fan bitterness there, George.
What do you really expect him to say that would?
Paracord Junky
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nothing's going to please those who make it their mission in life to hate 1-3, but personally i was ok with "i made the movies i wanted to make, told the story i wanted to tell." that was good enough. no need to start biting his thumb at people who weren't satisfied.
Carson Dyle
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Pity the artist who becomes a legend in his own time. Creatively speaking, it's a losing proposition.
Paracord Junky
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only if you try to expand that which made you legendary. venture ever into new territory and you can only grow.
true, but if addressing criticism is to tell a your fanbase to get over it, better to just remain silent, in my opinion. comes across as rude and unappreciative.
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Carson Dyle
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The only thing Lucas owes his "fans" is to make the best movies he can. Many of us appear to have enjoyed those efforts in spite of their flaws.
At any rate, I don't get the feeling Lucas was "biting his thumb" at us or being otherwise "unappreciative" of the many joys that come from having a suffocatingly obsessive fan base. Seems to me he was just trying to put the Star Wars films into the context of being entertainment as opposed to, say, religion.
Given the direction Stewart was leading the conversation, I think Lucas was more than gracious.
At any rate, I don't get the feeling Lucas was "biting his thumb" at us or being otherwise "unappreciative" of the many joys that come from having a suffocatingly obsessive fan base. Seems to me he was just trying to put the Star Wars films into the context of being entertainment as opposed to, say, religion.
Given the direction Stewart was leading the conversation, I think Lucas was more than gracious.
Solo4114
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only if you try to expand that which made you legendary. venture ever into new territory and you can only grow.
You mean like Willow and producing Howard the Duck?
(in fairness, I liked and still like Willow and never saw Howard the Duck)
I agree. Generally speaking, it's a bad idea to bite the hand that feeds you. However, for every obsessive fan that Lucas says treats his movies as religion or holds him to unreasonably high standards, there are also fans who believe he can do no wrong and who will consume ANYTHING with the logo on it and say "I loved it! It's more Star Wars so how could I not love it?" Which is probably why he doesn't care one way or the other. He knows that for every fan who says "The prequels SUCKED and you should stop doing ANYTHING creative!" there's a fan who'll say "The prequels were FANTASTIC and I'll buy ANYTHING you sell me." And given the number of the latter and the money he's already made off the former, on balance he can afford to say "Eh, I'm just gonna do what I like doing and to hell with everyone else."
Tan Djarka
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Over the span of his carreer, Lucas has given us great films, good films, and "Howard the Duck". They can't all be pure gold. Remember, David Fincher, who gave us "Fight Club", also gave us "Alien 3".
I know the prequels aren't the absolute height of cinema, but I can still enjoy them. At least they weren't "Return of the Jedi"!
I know the prequels aren't the absolute height of cinema, but I can still enjoy them. At least they weren't "Return of the Jedi"!
Solo4114
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By contrast, however, Lucas had FAR more freedom in pretty much all but the early years, whereas Fincher did not with Alien 3. I mean, if folks dig the prequels, hey, whatever floats your boat. But I do think it's fair to lay far more blame for failure of films at Lucas' feet than at the feet of other people who are not "moguls." I mean, you can't exactly blame the studio heads when you ARE the studio, ya know?
Lucas hemmed in by budgetary and time constraints, and surrounded by talented people that he actually listens to and who are not afraid to call him on a dumb idea is pretty awesome. Lucas unfettered by any constraints whatsoever and surrounded by people whose job it is to make happen what HE says without questioning it....leaves much to be desired.
In fairness, though, if I were Lucas, I'd almost certainly prefer the filmmaking experience of doing films later in my career when my every whim is made reality and I am basically GOD throughout the whole process, than earlier in my career where I have to answer to everyone and my "vision" -- good, bad, or mediocre -- is constrained by outside forces.
I'd also bet that, when you have staggering success at such an early stage in your career -- and when it comes as a result of a collaborative process but YOU seem to get sole credit for it (at least to the general public), it's GOT to play havoc with your ego and really make you question whether you deserve the praise, whether YOUR vision -- your TRUE vision, I mean -- is something people would love, and whether you ever really did what everyone thinks you did.
On the other hand, it's like Ol' Harry Callahan once said, "Man's got to know his limitations."
Lucas hemmed in by budgetary and time constraints, and surrounded by talented people that he actually listens to and who are not afraid to call him on a dumb idea is pretty awesome. Lucas unfettered by any constraints whatsoever and surrounded by people whose job it is to make happen what HE says without questioning it....leaves much to be desired.
In fairness, though, if I were Lucas, I'd almost certainly prefer the filmmaking experience of doing films later in my career when my every whim is made reality and I am basically GOD throughout the whole process, than earlier in my career where I have to answer to everyone and my "vision" -- good, bad, or mediocre -- is constrained by outside forces.
I'd also bet that, when you have staggering success at such an early stage in your career -- and when it comes as a result of a collaborative process but YOU seem to get sole credit for it (at least to the general public), it's GOT to play havoc with your ego and really make you question whether you deserve the praise, whether YOUR vision -- your TRUE vision, I mean -- is something people would love, and whether you ever really did what everyone thinks you did.
On the other hand, it's like Ol' Harry Callahan once said, "Man's got to know his limitations."
Paracord Junky
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You mean like Willow and producing Howard the Duck?
(in fairness, I liked and still like Willow and never saw Howard the Duck)
I agree. Generally speaking, it's a bad idea to bite the hand that feeds you. However, for every obsessive fan that Lucas says treats his movies as religion or holds him to unreasonably high standards, there are also fans who believe he can do no wrong and who will consume ANYTHING with the logo on it and say "I loved it! It's more Star Wars so how could I not love it?" Which is probably why he doesn't care one way or the other. He knows that for every fan who says "The prequels SUCKED and you should stop doing ANYTHING creative!" there's a fan who'll say "The prequels were FANTASTIC and I'll buy ANYTHING you sell me." And given the number of the latter and the money he's already made off the former, on balance he can afford to say "Eh, I'm just gonna do what I like doing and to hell with everyone else."
i like Willow too. i saw Howard the Duck once, many years ago, and all i remember is that he came from space and did the nasty with a human brunette.
as for the prequels: they're not really bad movies in and of themselves, but when put side-by-side with the originals it's hard to honestly say they don't kinda suck.
every film maker owes their success or failure to the fanbase, and Lucas has a LOO,OOO,OOO,OOT to thank that fanbase for.
apart from that i agree with you. he was there to discuss his book and the WWII film he's been about to start making for the last few decades. since the interview was getting farther from that and closer to message board territory with each syllable, best to close teh bastdoors ASAP.
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