Master Replicas Groups has filed for bankruptcy

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I was shocked to find out that their website it still up with products for sale.
They filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy and I believe that allows them to remain open and doing business, they just need to restructure the debt. If they fail to handle running things, a court appointed person could be placed to run things while the bankruptcy proceeds. So there is a chance they will still make sales and collect income so they can pay on the debt.
 
Every time someone tries to being licensed props to the masses, it falls hard and fails. Wonder why? I mean ANOVOS AND EFX are classic cases.

Wonder why this keeps happening? Chinese makers? Too many rabid detail oriented fans? Licensing is so expensive it’s cost prohibitive?

What do you all think?

That is a great question!

However, that is such a complicated question. A lot of factors go into an issue like this. Working for a company who does licensing and products overseas, I see many issues all the time. But you wouldn't believe how easy it is to fail because of a list of situations.

The main thing that causes something like this, should go without saying, and that is running out of money faster than expected.
That can happen faster than you can imagine. And then there are delays, delays from so many angles can deplete your funds and put you deeper in debt before you even get off the ground.

You always start your business plan with money, that is a given. The first thing to realize is that some of the start up cash will go to research, development and completion of a sample to provide to the factory. You need to provide a working sample of your item for the factory to duplicate, and often this requires hiring an artist to make two items, one for photography and as a back up, and one to give the factory for duplication. This stage alone will cost you thousands. And you need to get studio (Lincesor) approval. Imagine when they are nitpicking and each change requires you to have the artist(s) rework or start over on the pieces.

Next issue that comes up, as you pointed out, is that the licensing fees are very large these days. Every company goes into business with the best intentions, and they usually bring a significant amount of cash to the table to launch the thing. But when your initial plan requires you to buy some licenses, right out of the gate, and the cost of those licensing fees is through the roof, you start off on a bad foot. Imagine wanting to launch a few product lines and having to pay $50-100K for all the licenses. This may eat up the rest of your initial start up funds... so what do you do now? You are ready to start the production of product, but you need to pay the factory, so you do the most common things by taking pre-orders for the items. I know that is not an ideal business plan, but when you are out of options, you are left with the need to do this.

The next issue that can come up is the factories in China are not always the best at doing exactly what you have asked. I cannot tell you how many production samples of items we are producing come back completely wrong, and need a complete overhaul. We have to go back and forth nitpicking as much as we can, and we have to find common ground with the factory as they sometimes cannot make the changes we need. So this delays production and more money is spent shipping back and forth and starting over. Now...while all these behind the scenes issues are being ironed out, no money is coming in, and you are bleeding money for other things like paying overhead, employees, offices, utilities and warehouse space, etc. Hopefully you have a stream of income from some other product at this stage, but if you are just launching your first item, you may be getting a loan from the bank to float you. That is now more debt looming over the business.

Now comes the consideration of the rabid detail oriented fans.
They are very demanding of perfection, so you find yourself delaying things by urging the factory to try to achieve the level that fans want. And again... that creates delays and lack of income. And sometimes the studio (licensor) will see this stage of production and request another change. They really do not care about the fanbase desire of perfection and sometimes only approve the item with changes that makes the item even more inaccurate. So there can be negotiation delays and more back and forth with the factory to find a solution to make all parties happy.

Then you need to consider packaging. You need an artist to design you packaging and then pay to have the packaging printed. This is another few thousand dollars.

But let's say you weathered all those storms above, and managed to get the production run done. You have impatient customers who wanted their pre-ordered item months ago (or a year ago), they are angry about continued delays, and you now have to ship the items to your warehouse. This requires you to have a shipping container filled with product packed from the factory, shipped overseas by boat, received by customs, inspected and then delivered by truck to you. And that is all money required for you to pay before delivery. Again.... THOUSANDS of dollars for this. Plus, you have to pay for unloading at your warehouse and usually requires you to hire extra hands as you are probably not large enough to have a full warehouse crew on staff.

Now you are ready to start shipping. You ship out all pre-orders, even if the shipping estimates were wrong... you eat those overages. I have seen loss of a few hundred dollars per box as shipping large items was underestimated. So those are losses. And you make no income from the pre-orders as you already ate that income up.... but if lucky, your mark up on sale vs. production cost left you a little gain to cycle back into the machine. But mostly you rely on new sales of product that is now "IN STOCK". And all the while you are still paying employees, overhead, etc.

Now you want to produce a second item at the factory, so you need to rely on the new sales to fund development and build of the next master items. And this cycle continues.

Can you see how one hiccup in that chain above could be disastrous? It really is a crazy dance to keep the machine rolling. Your ultimate goal is to finally have enough products in your store to be bringing in enough income to pay employees and fund the future production runs. But to get to that stage takes time, and too many companies fold before they reach that point.
 
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That is a great question!

However, that is such a complicated question. A lot of factors go into an issue like this. Working for a company who does licensing and products overseas, I see many issues all the time. But you wouldn't believe how easy it is to fail because of a list of situations.

The main thing that causes something like this, should go without saying, and that is running out of money faster than expected.
That can happen faster than you can imagine. And then there are delays, delays from so many angles can deplete your funds and put you deeper in debt before you even get off the ground.

You always start your business plan with money, that is a given. The first thing to realize is that some of the start up cash will go to research, development and completion of a sample to provide to the factory. You need to provide a working sample of your item for the factory to duplicate, and often this requires hiring an artist to make two items, one for photography and as a back up, and one to give the factory for duplication. This stage alone will cost you thousands. And you need to get studio (Lincesor) approval. Imagine when they are nitpicking and each change requires you to have the artist(s) rework or start over on the pieces.

Next issue that comes up, as you pointed out, is that the licensing fees are very large these days. Every company goes into business with the best intentions, and they usually bring a significant amount of cash to the table to launch the thing. But when your initial plan requires you to buy some licenses, right out of the gate, and the cost of those licensing fees is through the roof, you start off on a bad foot. Imagine wanting to launch a few product lines and having to pay $50-100K for all the licenses. This may eat up the rest of your initial start up funds... so what do you do now? You are ready to start the production of product, but you need to pay the factory, so you do the most common things by taking pre-orders for the items. I know that is not an ideal business plan, but when you are out of options, you are left with the need to do this.

The next issue that can come up is the factories in China are not always the best at doing exactly what you have asked. I cannot tell you how many production samples of items we are producing come back completely wrong, and need a complete overhaul. We have to go back and forth nitpicking as much as we can, and we have to find common ground with the factory as they sometimes cannot make the changes we need. So this delays production and more money is spent shipping back and forth and starting over. Now...while all these behind the scenes issues are being ironed out, no money is coming in, and you are bleeding money for other things like paying overhead, employees, offices, utilities and warehouse space, etc. Hopefully you have a stream of income from some other product at this stage, but if you are just launching your first item, you may be getting a loan from the bank to float you. That is now more debt looming over the business.

Now comes the consideration of the rabid detail oriented fans.
They are very demanding of perfection, so you find yourself delaying things by urging the factory to try to achieve the level that fans want. And again... that creates delays and lack of income. And sometimes the studio (licensor) will see this stage of production and request another change. They really do not care about the fanbase desire of perfection and sometimes only approve the item with changes that makes the item even more inaccurate. So there can be negotiation delays and more back and forth with the factory to find a solution to make all parties happy.

But let's say you weathered all those storms above, and managed to get the production run done. You have impatient customers who wanted their pre-ordered item months ago (or a year ago), they are angry about continued delays, and you now have to ship the items to your warehouse. This requires you to have a shipping container filled with product packed from the factory, shipped overseas by boat, received by customs, inspected and then delivered by truck to you. And that is all money required for you to pay before delivery. Again.... THOUSANDS of dollars for this. Plus, you have to pay for unloading at your warehouse and usually requires you to hire extra hands as you are probably not large enough to have a full warehouse crew on staff.

Now you are ready to start shipping. You ship out all pre-orders, even if the shipping estimates were wrong... you eat those overages. I have seen loss of a few hundred dollars per box as shipping large items was underestimated. So those are losses. And you make no income from the pre-orders as you already ate that income up.... but if lucky, your mark up on sale vs. production cost left you a little gain to cycle back into the machine. But mostly you rely on new sales of product that is now "IN STOCK". And all the while you are still paying employees, overhead, etc.

Now you want to produce a second item at the factory, so you need to rely on the new sales to fund development and build of the next master items. And this cycle continues.

Can you see how one hiccup in that chain above could be disastrous? It really is a crazy dance to keep the machine rolling. Your ultimate goal is to finally have enough products in your store to be bringing in enough income to pay employees and fund the future production runs. But to get to that stage takes time, and too many companies fold before they reach that point.

All true and very accurate!!!!!! I’m just wondering, if there are so many issues, why not skip the Made in China route? I’ve dealt with that on some ancillary deals I’ve worked on, and having someone closer makes it easier. Be it a bit more expensive, it saved money in the long run. I just look at people here who have incredibly successful runs and, yes, they are skipping many steps, but it seems to me there has to be a way to make it work in a longer lasting business model.

MR did it for a very long time until Lucas upped their license fee so high, there was no way for them to cover it. All because Hasbro wanted it. Sheesh. That’s business.

Smaller company? Smaller runs? Less emphasis on packaging and display? Not sure what the answer is other than lots and lots of money.
 
All true and very accurate!!!!!! I’m just wondering, if there are so many issues, why not skip the Made in China route? I’ve dealt with that on some ancillary deals I’ve worked on, and having someone closer makes it easier. Be it a bit more expensive, it saved money in the long run. I just look at people here who have incredibly successful runs and, yes, they are skipping many steps, but it seems to me there has to be a way to make it work in a longer lasting business model.

MR did it for a very long time until Lucas upped their license fee so high, there was no way for them to cover it. All because Hasbro wanted it. Sheesh. That’s business.

Smaller company? Smaller runs? Less emphasis on packaging and display? Not sure what the answer is other than lots and lots of money.
Yes, people on here successfully doing runs are skipping a lot of steps. They still deal with factories, but often they take deposits upfront, and then they don't have all the overhead as they are most likely working out of their home. Plus they do not have the crazy licensing fees. And they can be much more accurate as they do not have to answer to the licencor.

Ha! Thanks for mentioning packaging. I TOTALLY left that out of the chain of expenses. Sheesh! That alone, using an artist and then print costs can be a lot.

Sadly, I do not know the answer on how to avoid all this. I know we tried a American Factory and it ended up not working out. I was much more expensive and we still had production issues. The only real saving was on shipping the product to us, and then that was cut due to the higher factory costs.
 
I thought these guys folded like 10 years ago? They still are loved, at least their pops are still going for big money on eBay. I just sold 2 recently for WAAAAY more than I paid.
 
MR did it for a very long time until Lucas upped their license fee so high, there was no way for them to cover it. All because Hasbro wanted it. Sheesh. That’s business.
This is inaccurate. If I remember correctly, MR was mishandling the license and lucasfilm became aware of it.

MR consistently broke edition size guarantees and were losing money fast.

Hasbro had nothing to do with it and they only obtained the portion of the license as it pertained to role play items. Prop replica license went to efx eventually while another subdivision of the replica license was briefly held by Propshop. Anovos, of course obtained the high end costume license.

In addition, it may be possible that hasbro bought the rights to use the technology used in the force fx lightsabers, but that may not have been necessary by that time. I am not as knowledgeable about patents.
 
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This is inaccurate. If I remember correctly, MR was mishandling the license and lucasfilm became aware of it.

MR consistently broke edition size guarantees and were losing money fast.

Hasbro had nothing to do with it and they only obtained the portion of the license as it pertained to role play items. Prop replica license went to efx eventually while another subdivision of the replica license was briefly held by Propshop. Anovos, of course obtained the high end costume license.

In addition, it may be possible that hasbro bought the rights to use the technology used in the force fx lightsabers, but that may not have been necessary by that time. I am not as knowledgeable about patents.

Former MR employee here - not really accurate. It really came down to the FX lightsabers - Hasbro wanted that product category and leveraged their relationship with Lucasfilm licensing to edge MR out. There were other issues, but that was one of the main ones.
 
Former MR employee here - not really accurate. It really came down to the FX lightsabers - Hasbro wanted that product category and leveraged their relationship with Lucasfilm licensing to edge MR out. There were other issues, but that was one of the main ones.
Not what I heard, but okay. You would know better.
 
I called my bank last week just 2 days before they filled for bankruptcy. My bank issued me a provisional credit for the full amount after 18 months. If they can’t provide proof of delivery of goods in 30 days the credit is permanent.
 
They filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy and I believe that allows them to remain open and doing business, they just need to restructure the debt. If they fail to handle running things, a court appointed person could be placed to run things while the bankruptcy proceeds. So there is a chance they will still make sales and collect income so they can pay on the debt.

Just because they may be able to make some sales and collect income so they can pay on the debt doesn't mean they are going to deliver any product. I know it doesn't work this way but there should be some sort of warning on the website telling potential customers what is going on. Further, saying the buyers should do some research is rather simplistic and doesn't really help because not everyone has access to the info we have and other than people in the community not too many know who Steve is or that he is even involved with the new MR as that shocked me when I found out when it was first formed.
 
Just because they may be able to make some sales and collect income so they can pay on the debt doesn't mean they are going to deliver any product.
I agree. I never said they would deliver items. I was just replying to the person I quoted, who asked why their website was still up with product for ordering. Under Chapter 11, they remain open through the process.

Most likely they will never pay the $640,000+ back or make good on the product delivery and any money they make during this bankruptcy process will just go towards the legal fees or in their own pockets before they go disappear.
 
I agree. I never said they would deliver items. I was just replying to the person I quoted, who asked why their website was still up with product for ordering. Under Chapter 11, they remain open through the process.

Most likely they will never pay the $640,000+ back or make good on the product delivery and any money they make during this bankruptcy process will just go towards the legal fees or in their own pockets before they go disappear.

To true. I was replying to your reply of my message and should have thanked you for the info as I had forgotten that one of the main points of filing is so that you can stay in business in some way.
 
Further, saying the buyers should do some research is rather simplistic and doesn't really help because not everyone has access to the info we have and other than people in the community not too many know who Steve is or that he is even involved with the new MR as that shocked me when I found out when it was first formed.

...lol. Simplistic? If your going to "invest" in a company of product through stocks or a crowd funding then you should research who you are "investing" in. Its not simplistic, its commen sense and good business practice. A simplistic search on Google or Duckduckgo of Steve Dymszo or Master replica or SD studios would tell anyone with common sense to not deal with anything associated with any of those entities. If you like to gamble on a long shot that is fine but dont complain when it goes the way it always goes when dealing with Mr Dymszo, some MAY get product but most likely you'll get ripped off.
 
Sad to hear about a company that I absolutely loved back in the day.
My original lightsaber props collection is still proudly displayed, and their quality was second to none other out there.
Fond memories.
 
...lol. Simplistic? If your going to "invest" in a company of product through stocks or a crowd funding then you should research who you are "investing" in. Its not simplistic, its commen sense and good business practice. A simplistic search on Google or Duckduckgo of Steve Dymszo or Master replica or SD studios would tell anyone with common sense to not deal with anything associated with any of those entities. If you like to gamble on a long shot that is fine but dont complain when it goes the way it always goes when dealing with Mr Dymszo, some MAY get product but most likely you'll get ripped off.

To be honest I was not talking about inventors, who I really don't care about as they should have researched the company before putting any monery into it, and along with any creditors will be the first to get any of their money back while the poor people that went to the website and placed an order are the ones that are going to get screwed the most. They are the ones that didn't have easy access to all of the info we have and without digging deeper wouldn't even know that Steve was connected to the new MR, I know I didn't at first and if they had anything I liked I probably would have ordered it to.

I'm not advocating for MR or Steve, I think what he did and is still doing is despicable, but I do feel for the regular person who paid money expecting to get something and are going to get screwed. That is why I will never do a pre-order again where I have to pay up front, like with Anovos & EFX, I will get it on the secondary market, even at a higher price, or not get it at all.
 
Well....here is the story:

Stephen Dymszo
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I understand that many people are upset about the excessive delays in getting the HAL 9000 product delivered and the recent total lack of response from Master Replicas Group. To be clear, I officially resigned from MRG on May 15th, after I had laid-off all of the staff (including myself) in early-April. Several of the remaining management personnel/share-holders are still there, and they have been running the company since my departure.
I have made numerous attempts to communicate/ask questions/suggest conference calls to discuss the company moving forward, and to-date I have received no response from anyone other than their lawyer saying “We will get back to you soon…”
The situation is absolutely unacceptable and customers are entitled to know what happened. I can’t post everything, as I have no desire to engage in a legal battle with the company I started, but I will try to clarify as much as I can. I would like to add that in the three years of our operation, we shipped many thousands of orders out (often the same- or next-day) so we were generally very successful there. The delay currently affects ONLY the HAL product.
On July 23, 2020, MRG filed for chapter 11. This has been posted elsewhere on FB, so it is not a secret. Please note that this is a reorganization, not a dissolution, and I understand that there is a plan to move forward with the company and its share-holders (I am one of them). I don’t know any more than that, as the current management has refused to share any information with me for the last few months.
I want to say to everyone, I am SO sorry this has happened. I spent three years of my life trying to make sure this did NOT happen. I even hired two financial consultants to provide an on-going third-party review of the company and finances to see if we were making any mistakes so we could correct them in real-time. I took this business extremely seriously and the responsibility of people pre-paying for our lead product heavily weighed on me on a daily basis.
This was the company that I and my family started and were supposed to be working for, for many years. I hoped for this to be my last big business before I retired. Because of circumstances well-beyond my control, I am now unemployed, along with the rest of our staff.
Having experience with unethical business partners in the past, I had hired several qualified family members and outside consultants, so we could have a core-staff of people that we could trust. We all knew that this would be successful and we all agreed to work together to make great products and absolutely no “screwing around” with the finances. We were always extremely careful how we spent money. There were no excessive purchases and all larger expenditures were run past our investor and other managers first, before we paid out any money.
Almost every person who worked here also took a pay cut to be at MRG. I personally took a $30k/year pay-cut to serve as CEO. So, I lost about $90,000 working for this company, only to now be out of a job. I sacrificed a big salary because I felt that the rewards would come “later”. Unfortunately, other people had different plans. I will not name names, so please do not ask.
This company had enormous potential. My staff and I had designed numerous amazing products that may now never see the light of day because others had “different plans”. Many of them were completely designed and developed, but never put into production, because we didn’t want to spend too much money, too quickly.
This situation is tragic for everyone involved. I have no words to express how I feel about this.
I will summarize what I can here. I want to be clear…I was the CEO of this company, and the business is ultimately my responsibility. However, as I hope you will see from the details below, there was a long-term plan to have me removed from the company and have it be taken over by other people. All of our staff, our consultants, and several of MRG’s vendors also know exactly what happened in the last three years, so I am not being paranoid or blame-shifting.
This will be a data-dump, so things are not necessarily in date-event-order. These are just the FACTS as they occurred. I cannot share any more information than what I am including below. I also cannot interact with people asking me the obvious next-million questions, as I cannot risk that. I hope you can understand and respect that. Any further answers will have to come from the current management of the company. I have not/ cannot reply to e-mails or messages on this subject. I am not ignoring you. I was warned by their lawyer to not do so.
EVERYTHING I write below can be verified by 9 or 10 direct witnesses and almost every person has agreed to testify to these facts if needed. I also have kept a printed file for the last three years, and many times when there was an “incident”, I documented it in an e-mail and printed it out for my file if things ever fell apart. So, the following information contains ONLY indisputable, verifiable FACTS:
Approximately three years ago, we formed the company, obtained an investor, and started conducting business. As everyone knows, we did a crowd-funding to test whether the HAL project would even be viable. It was very successful, so we moved forward. I had informed our investor that we needed X $$$ to do everything we needed to do. He initially invested 1/3rd $$$, but stated that as we progressed and met various milestones, he was good for the full amount. That sounded perfectly fair, as we had received the Indiegogo funds to offset some of that, so we got started.
One of our founders was an electronics engineer, so he would design the HAL electronics and specifications with another one of our staff. I would coordinate the project, but mainly stay out of the specific details for the majority of the project.
Two people (not me) were given pretty much exclusive freedom to design the HAL project. I interjected information and feedback where needed. This project should have taken about 6 to 9 months to design from start to finish. It took over 24 months. Because of these delays, I sent dozens of e-mails and conducted numerous phone calls (over 100?) pleading with everyone involved to get the project done because of the critical timing and the fact that we would run out of money before the product ever shipped.
These emails were always responded to, but in practice, were ignored. I therefore brought in two additional outside engineering consultants to help shepherd the project to production. Both parties eventually resigned, stating that they could not work with X and Y. X and Y often reviewed the design of the HAL with me and now that I HAD to become more involved in the specifics of the project, I provided hundreds of feedback e-mails and phone calls that the design was overly-complicated, too expensive, and was not manufacturable. Once the product design was finally completed and submitted to the factory, they reviewed the CAD files and their response was: “Not manufacturable as designed.” (Again, their words, not mine).
X and Y were warned numerous times during the project that this was going to happen by myself, and others. The three of us all have engineering degrees and have over 90 years of manufacturing experience between us. We were essentially ignored.
As I said, because of the mounting delays, we brought in two engineers from the original MR to shepard the product through manufacturing in China. Almost immediately, it was obvious that there was friction between the co-founders and the engineers. Our consultants stated that the product was “being wildly over-designed” and that it would not be manufacturable. During conference calls, I acted mainly as a referee, as the parties literally screamed at each other. I kept issuing deadlines, stating that these were not to be exceeded and that ALL work had to be completed by that date. Those were always discussed, but were functionally ignored and one deadline after another passed for one reason or another.
As predicted, it took over 24 months to get a final design from our staff and once submitted to the factory, they told us it was “not manufacturable as designed”. The design also FAR exceeded our original estimates for tooling and per-unit cost. Both engineering consultants warned me about this.
Our investor also had his CPA review our financials every month and we would have a phone call every month to discuss our burn rate, expenses, planned purchases, accounting methods, etc. EVERY month, he told us he was “very happy” and to “keep up the good work”. Our accounting staff went through this process religiously every month to make sure that no one could come back later and say we were doing anything that was unauthorized or unethical.
I and our financial consultant met with our investor around June of 2019 to discuss the company finances. I provided extensive financial reports and a proposed going-forward plan. I emphasized that the company would run out of money between December 2019 and February 2020, if no additional funding was supplied. I reminded him that the original business plan was for $XXX and that the company had started out under-capitalized, and he had promised us more funding. The investor said not to worry and that “when the funds were needed, they would be available”. He asked me to create a use-of-proceeds document and said that once the document was reviewed and approved, funding would be provided. This never happened, obviously. Around July or August of 2019, the investor stated that he was now going through a hardship and that his assets were now all tied up for some indeterminate amount of time.
Y informed me last year that he was owed $127,300 by the corporation. I asked for some type of documentation. None was ever provided. Keep in mind that this was never discussed, agreed, or approved by anyone. The debt simply came out of nowhere. Y claimed that it was for “excessive amounts of time that he had spent working for the company”, but no prior warning was given that this was coming. Y then submitted to me a loan document which required approximately a $9000/ month repayment. All of this despite the CEO's noting to everyone that the company could not take on any more major debt and an additional funding was needed. Furthermore, the loan documents stipulated that if any one payment was missed, that Y would acquire all property and goods of the company, both tangible and intangible. This means for a $127,300 “loan”, Y would acquire approximately $600,000 worth of inventory, plus all of our contracts, intellectual rights, designs, etc. I told that person that there was no way ANY CEO would ever sign an agreement like this. I had several finance and legal professionals review the contract and they all said the same thing. (redacted).
Because THAT didn’t work, Y then sent an email last year directly to our factory in China that is manufacturing the HAL product with a contract directing them to acknowledge that he owned 100% of the design of the HAL, stop manufacturing it immediately, and if that was violated, he would take legal action and all damages were payable directly to him personally. The factory refused to sign this contract, obviously. This was never discussed this with me prior, nor did they even CC me on this email. The factory contacted our manufacturing engineer, who called me immediately and sent me a copy of the contract. That was the first I knew anything about this.
Note again, that at the start of the company, we had all signed a covenant that ALL products designed at MRG were the property of the company. This is a direct violation of that covenant. I reminded Y about this and he said that he "Didn't recall ever signing anything like that".
Because Y incorrectly informed the factory that he now owned the design of the HAL with no prior warning or discussion (which was in violation of our original covenants and agreements) AND threatened to sue the company if we used HIS design without some written agreement and the repayment of his $127,300 “loan”, I hired X and Z to completely re-design the HAL as a 100% MRG-owned design and take it to production. This caused months of additional delays. This is the design that is currently held by the factory in China.
Unfortunately, because of all of the misdirection, delays, and now-24 months of redesigning, re-re-designing and general drama, by the time we had a viable design to go to production, the company had burned through almost all of the funds needed to pay for it and the investor subsequently backed out of his agreement to provide additional funding.
Because of numerous incidents with two people, the company spent approximately $70k in legal fees that would not have been necessary if everyone worked together properly. In addition, the company wasted $40k paying a settlement to a person so we would not be sued for “wrongful termination”. He was also paid for two months for no work, while he was on temporary furlough until we could determine what to do with him. Our HR manager made sure we did everything “by the book.” This should never have happened.
In addition, we hired X and Z to redesign HAL numerous times and wasted hundreds of hours arguing over details that were a total waste of time. This resulted in racking up about $60k in excess engineering consulting fees to correct a design that should have been done correctly ONE time. Not over and over and over.
Our investor assured me that this was not going to be a problem and he said: "Keep going, more money is coming". Our consultants will testify to hearing and seeing this.
I repeatedly warned everyone for the last two years that this was coming. I provided financial documentation every month as proof. While they would always respectfully listen and discuss, no one actually took any real action to prevent it from happening.
Then, after all of that…
Because of Covid, our 2020 sales dropped by about $400,000 over the last six months. Our investor also stated that his businesses were hit very hard and he could now not invest any additional funds. We had already paid the factory an enormous amount of money for development, prototyping and tooling of the HAL. We actually received a full production unit from the factory that thousands of people saw at various conventions and on the internet in 2019. We were all very excited to finally get this product moving into final production.
On another note, our products were hit with a 15% Chinese-import tariff starting in 2019, so the HALs would cost us about $60,000 to $90,000 more than planned. That was manageable, but very, very painful.
For the last six months, I have submitted financial plans to keep the company going on a much-decreased basis and try to slowly rebuild. I have created several financial documents that were sent to all parties showing recommendations on how to accomplish this. I have continually stated that we should find some way to fulfill the HAL orders so as to not burn our customers. Our engineer even got the factory to agree to split up the product into regular, smaller shipments, so we could get them out faster.
I stated that I would NOT accept bankrupting the company and we had numerous other options to be able to move forward. Every one of my plans was rejected. The investor unequivocally stated that we should close the company. Other board members clearly sided with this action as well. On a conference call, Y told our investor to not put any money into the company, as it was not viable. I was out-voted, and that pretty-much sealed the fate of the business.
In summary, I tried everything in my power and even brought in outside help, but still could not stop this. It is very clear to me now that my vision for the company was NOT the vision that other people had for it.
Again, please be aware that for every single statement that I have made here, I have witnesses and documentation to back it all up. I am so sorry this has happened and I hope that the new management will make everything right with the customers. I tried my best for three years, but could not stop this from happening.

So...with all that said....lets see what comes of it. Sounds like there is still a a management company proceeding without Mr D.
 
Thank you BrundelFly for providing a very detailed description of what your role was there and the subsequent turmoil afterward including your attempts to remedy their problems.
It’s unfortunate that you are out of work, especially during these times.
I just have one question...Why did you go into business with a known D-bag?

TaxMan2000
 
huh??? Hhaahah TAZ....I didnt have a role there,...I just found the posting by the person being discussed.
Sorry if you got the wrong impression.

I work elsewhere.
 
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