Marvel's Thunderbolts

No spoilers from me, but MAKE SURE YOU STAY UNTIL THE END. Naturally they goes without saying but even at a t 1.39pm showing where, presumably others had also taken time off work to see the film, there were still a couple of people who left before the end of the credits.
I saw it today too. No spoilers from me either, but it was the first time I felt like the final post-credit sequence of a film actually felt like a complete scene, not just a quick teaser.

I really liked the film too, very enjoyable. The whole cast gets high marks from me, which is what you especially want from a "team" movie. Nice individual moments for individual characters as well.
 
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They seemed like more of a team than the conglomeration of characters that was the original Avengers. I didn't entirely like the ending though. I understood why they went with it... I just didn't like it.
 
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Okay so ***SPOILERS***

Watched Captain America, Brave New World and evryone is like, "he got stabbed and fought on like nothing."

Then you watch Daredevil, and Bullseye is chucking knives into Daredevil like a Julius Caesar knife holder.

Then Sentry, smashes Yelena into the roof and chucks her. Hits Bucky with his own arm and just all over the place off-balance damage scaling. They are sore, but not really injured to the extent you'd expect.

Also, I feel like the egoist aspect of the movie was not handled well.

So, in superhero genre think of four basic types:
1) Brick like Hulk or the Thing
2) Martial Artist Batman, Daredevil
3)Energy Projector Human Torch, Nova
4) Egoist Scarecrow, Mysterio

Sentry is like a absurdly Powerful 1,3 snd 4.

Yeah, there are variants, like Vision's density 1 and 3

Spiderman is a Brick, Martial Artist

Egoist are hard to do right, but the evil personality that wants you to become itself, is just old. And you knew once they made Sentry so outrageously powrrful, that was their only way out.
Yelena shouldnt have attacked, she should have awkwardly tried to protect him.

I didnt hate it, but maybe a 6 out of 10.

It wasn't terrible, but I didnt see anyone walk out jumping-around excited.

Also I thought Buck and BraveNew World Cap were on good terms.

and no prblem with lethal force on faceless humans, but Julia DeDreyfus, the most evil of them all, gets a pass?!?!

***SPOILERS DUN***
 
Just watched the film for the second time and loved it just as much as the first. My fiance joined me said it was one of the best Marvel films she's seen in a while and especially enjoyed the use of real locations and the chemistry between the cast.
 
My wfie and I went to see it on Friday and we both loved it. The acting was top notch, and Florence Pugh really does a great job as Yelena. I thought this was probably the best Marvel movie since Endgame, while none of the post Endgame movies were necessarily bad, but several were definitely rather meh. But Thunderbolts really kicked it out of the park, in my opinion. I can't wait for a Thunderbolts* 2 to come out.

Disney now needs to find a way to cast Goldie Hawn in a Marvel in order to solidify the Russell family as the Frist Family of the MCU. Even better would be to either somehow bring Ego back or at least give Kurt a cameo in the next Thunderbolts movie, along Goldie Hawn. I think that it would be kind of awesome to have all 3 onscreen at the same time and would make for one hell of an Easter egg;
 
My wfie and I went to see it on Friday and we both loved it. The acting was top notch, and Florence Pugh really does a great job as Yelena. I thought this was probably the best Marvel movie since Endgame, while none of the post Endgame movies were necessarily bad, but several were definitely rather meh. But Thunderbolts really kicked it out of the park, in my opinion. I can't wait for a Thunderbolts* 2 to come out.

Disney now needs to find a way to cast Goldie Hawn in a Marvel in order to solidify the Russell family as the Frist Family of the MCU. Even better would be to either somehow bring Ego back or at least give Kurt a cameo in the next Thunderbolts movie, along Goldie Hawn. I think that it would be kind of awesome to have all 3 onscreen at the same time and would make for one hell of an Easter egg;
I think it'd be sweet if they could use Ego as the planet Doom uses to create Battle world.
 
My wfie and I went to see it on Friday and we both loved it. The acting was top notch, and Florence Pugh really does a great job as Yelena. I thought this was probably the best Marvel movie since Endgame, while none of the post Endgame movies were necessarily bad, but several were definitely rather meh. But Thunderbolts really kicked it out of the park, in my opinion. I can't wait for a Thunderbolts* 2 to come out.

Disney now needs to find a way to cast Goldie Hawn in a Marvel in order to solidify the Russell family as the Frist Family of the MCU. Even better would be to either somehow bring Ego back or at least give Kurt a cameo in the next Thunderbolts movie, along Goldie Hawn. I think that it would be kind of awesome to have all 3 onscreen at the same time and would make for one hell of an Easter egg;
Goldie Hawn would make a great a great Marvel villain…but, which character do you have in mind?
 
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New Avengers?
 

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Surprised they went with New over Dark!

Also the writer of the first draft was very surprised when he watched a test screening because apparently that one character was meant to be in the whole movie...

https://www.polygon.com/marvel/596372/thunderbolts-taskmaster-death-planned-story-arc
Antonia/Taskmaster survives for the entire movie, and was the center of a pretty big subplot. His script had Taskmaster bonding with Ava, who, as we learned in Ant-Man and the Wasp, gained quantum-shifting powers in a lab accident that killed her parents, and was subsequently found by SHIELD, raised in a lab, and trained as a weapon. Pearson felt theyd have a lot in common as people who’d grown up in labs and been controlled that way.

And Ava, having won her autonomy earlier in the chronology than Taskmaster, was kind of big-sistering her a little bit, in a way of how to break free and be your own person,” Pearson says.

He also feels that Taskmasters presence helped rein in some of the other characters tendency for self-pity: I mean, everyone in there has suffered a ton of tragedy, he says. But she was kind of the ultimate tragedy. In the old tragedy rankings, she was at the top, and the other, bigger personalities no one could get out of line, because no one could say I had it worse than you.

His version of Taskmaster also enabled a running joke about her tendency to forget shed moved past trying to assassinate John Walker, and go after him again. On the comedy side, she was struggling with her own memory-loss stuff, and there was a gag where she just kept restarting the fight and
forgetting that they had made up and become friends. he says.

They would be discussing the plan of how to get out [of the vault], and she’d just go after him again, and they’d all have to pig-pile on each other, and pull her off, and be like, No, we know each other! We’ve had this conversation before!

 
Okay so ***SPOILERS***

Watched Captain America, Brave New World and evryone is like, "he got stabbed and fought on like nothing."

Then you watch Daredevil, and Bullseye is chucking knives into Daredevil like a Julius Caesar knife holder.

Then Sentry, smashes Yelena into the roof and chucks her. Hits Bucky with his own arm and just all over the place off-balance damage scaling. They are sore, but not really injured to the extent you'd expect.

Also, I feel like the egoist aspect of the movie was not handled well.

So, in superhero genre think of four basic types:
1) Brick like Hulk or the Thing
2) Martial Artist Batman, Daredevil
3)Energy Projector Human Torch, Nova
4) Egoist Scarecrow, Mysterio

Sentry is like a absurdly Powerful 1,3 snd 4.

Yeah, there are variants, like Vision's density 1 and 3

Spiderman is a Brick, Martial Artist

Egoist are hard to do right, but the evil personality that wants you to become itself, is just old. And you knew once they made Sentry so outrageously powrrful, that was their only way out.
Yelena shouldnt have attacked, she should have awkwardly tried to protect him.

I didnt hate it, but maybe a 6 out of 10.

It wasn't terrible, but I didnt see anyone walk out jumping-around excited.

Also I thought Buck and BraveNew World Cap were on good terms.

and no prblem with lethal force on faceless humans, but Julia DeDreyfus, the most evil of them all, gets a pass?!?!

***SPOILERS DUN***
I think the difference with those characters taking damage is that it's unrealistic for us to expect Sam Wilson and Daredevil to shrug off knife wounds and other damage as they have no enhanced strength/healing, but Bucky was given a variation of the Super Soldier Serum in addition to his robotic arm being much stronger than even his own enhanced strength.

Yelena, though, I thought all the Red Room agents/Black Widows(?),l had some enhanced abilities as well. In the comics, they also have been given a variation of the SSS, but it's not as clear about what kind of chemical "treatments" or enhancements they were given in the MCU, other than intense training and mind control.
 
I really enjoyed it. Its kind of strange that the New Avengers has an American Super-Soldier, Russian Super-Soldier, American Super-Soldier brainwashed by Russians, Russian Soldier. Ghost is the only one thats really different. I'm not complaining, just not a variety like The Avengers. Also I'd love to see a new Taskmaster thats the cocky, loud mouth seen in the comics.
 
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