Man of Steel costume thread

[Primrodo]

There is no arrogance in any sort of "I can do better."

And it is not about Reeve either.

Its about a design for design sake....if you like, the arrogance of the film to assume that we will swallow a costume that is not Superman, just because it has re boots, and S and a cape does not make it Superman.

Routh's costume had many problems, most of it was all the \S/'s from the textures to the soles of his boots.

This costume has its serious flaws in basic design over all these issues, mainly the blue sleeper pajama look with nothing but regurgitated latex for fun.

Its change for change sake...and I do not think its arrogant to see what would have helped the costume rather than complete redesigns.

 

[n0regret5]

i've just now figured out what bugs me. his head to hand size ratio looks as if his noggin is HUGE. like a dwarf (no offence to shorter folk out there).

 

[dualedge]

The arrogance comes from the whole, "i can do better" ethos.

How the feedback is offered is what is arrogant or not - not the alternatives themselves. Of course, also keep in mind that even someone that's arrogant can have a good idea.

Reeve's time has come and gone. I loved him, i grew up with him as MY Superman....but, i feel it's fantastic and daring to have such a departure from the same old, same old.

Mind you, didn't work for the Singer flick, did it? The Routh costume WAS seriously flawed. (is that arrogant of me?) And at the time, i DID enjoy some of the PS redos folks were doing.

Um, yes, actually that is arrogance as you have defined it.

Critiquing art and design is all about "what might have worked better." My work gets critiqued all the time - typically by people who aren't artists or designers but even non-pros more often than not offer very useful feedback. Some of it could be offered in a more polite way but it doesn't make the opinion wrong.

In summary, this Cavill guy looks really good as Supes so far, the costume is different and a bit otherworldly, (he IS an alien..) and it's got a big, Eff-Off "S" symbol!

Rich

I don't hate the new costume but I do think there could have been better alternatives which is why I did a photo-manipulation myself. I'm a visual guy and I wanted to see what it might look like.

It'll be interesting to see some of the alternatives Zach Snyder and the production's artists considered when they release an "art of" book for the movie. Right now, we see the final choice without knowing how or why they got there.

But there's no need to come down on folks that offer alternative versions... unless they're just jerks in how they present it. Then feel free to bash them for being jerks - not for offering alternatives.

 

[clancampbell]

"It'll be interesting to see some of the alternatives Zach Snyder and the production's artists considered when they release an "art of" book for the movie. Right now, we see the final choice without knowing how or why they got there."

Yup, i agree with that. I'm very much into the design process, and will find it fascinating to find out about discarded designs.

It'll also be interesting to see if there's any kind of explaination regarding the suit.

And, to sort of backtrack a bit, i'll be really aggrieved if there is definitely no \S/ on the Cape!

I guess it all comes down to whether you agree with the adage, "Give the people what they want." I feel that Superman has needed a shake up for a long while. Maybe this is it, maybe it'll blow.

To any i have offended with my staunch, intractable seeming comments, i'm sorry.

Rich

 

[dualedge]

I guess it all comes down to whether you agree with the adage, "Give the people what they want." I feel that Superman has needed a shake up for a long while. Maybe this is it, maybe it'll blow.

To any i have offended with my staunch, intractable seeming comments, i'm sorry.

Rich

Thanks for the apology - no sweat. I think it's all meant in good fun even when those of us hardcore geeks that like to argue this stuff get more worked up about it than maybe we should.

As I like to call it... "the dropping of the shorts" from the costume is a good idea in my opinion. I think the new design they're using in the relaunched Superman #1 is a better alternative to what they did for the movie.

Actually, I don't think I'd even mind the things on the sides of the costume as much if he just had some kind of visually stronger belt-like design to break it up like the comics version has.

What strikes me as odd is not that they redesigned the suit but just that they kind of went into left field with it. The changes don't fit with the classic look or the new comics version... well, it sort of does but it also just goes its own way.

It kind of reminds me of a baby's romper outfit but designed by Nike. Personally, I think just a few minor tweaks would have made it appeal to a lot more fans which is why I'm really curious to see some of the production's unused alternatives and maybe figure out why they did what they did.

This really is sort of like several other characters recently. I'm not crazy about the modern Captain America costume and I haven't put my finger on why yet... I might do a few photo-manipulation tweaks of that just for the fun of it too. Can't wait to see an 'art-of' book for the Avengers - that'll be awesome.

 

[LightStreak]

Primrodo, you summed up exactly what I was trying to say much more elegantly than I could have (nice bumping into you again by the way, in something other than Doctor Who, small world, eh?).
I do wonder though if this whole "change for change sake" idea perhaps doesn't quite hit the mark. From what I've heard of the film, the suit is now actually fully Kryptonian, and Clark recieves it from Jor-El for the express purpose of fighting Zod (not sure how true that is but...), but, if that's the case, I think we can look at the suit in a completely different light (not like the Returns suit, that tried to be alien and true to Reeve at the same time), those racing treads gain new definition - could there be a purpose to them? etc. etc.
Either way, even if it is JUST change, isn't it just a better idea to try to appreciate this suit for what we like? When the film comes out, the story, Cavill's acting, and the pitch of Amy Adam's screaming for Superman will be it's defining features, and what it is remembered for. When I think of the Reeve movies, I think "perfect actor, and Daily Planet", I don't think of the suit, because, as nice as it is, it's just standard to the comics. Yeah, of course that makes it the difinitive Superman suit, but no one rembers it, because it's the same as what has been seen week in week out since Superman's creation. There's nothing wrong with it, but nothing spectacular. Same with Cain's and Routh's suit (well, depening on whether you are a Routh fan or not).
This suit I think will be remembered, us, talking about it now, are living proof of that. When Reeve's suit was first seen, there were some smiles, some compliments, but since then... well... people just look at it and say "Yeah, that's Superman... moving on".
I think the pros and cons of this suit will be discussed for years to come, and it will look incredible on screen. This suit demands to be talked about, it demands controvesy and respect, and I think that already sets it up as the most interesting and exciting suit yet.

 

[trigga415]

Yeah I gotta say, the Big Shield on the chest is what does it for me, I mean he is "Super" right? And I'm finally glad they did away with the trunks. I'm actually surprised it lasted this long, strongmen stopped wearing unitards decades ago lol

 

[DarklyDreaming]

Don't care for the suit, but can live with it, and really hate Cavill. Epic fail. Wish they would just leave Superman alone. They wouldn't even let Tomwelling wear the suit in the last episode of Smallville. The only thing this movie has going for it is that Lex Luthor is not the main villain

 

[clancampbell]

No underoos, means no belt.....nothing to hold up.

So what's the belt like buckle thing? Decorative? Combined with the gold coloured detailing at the belt area of the suit, I guess so.

Rich

 

[Primrodo]

Don't care for the suit, but can live with it, and really hate Cavill. Epic fail. Wish they would just leave Superman alone. They wouldn't even let Tomwelling wear the suit in the last episode of Smallville. The only thing this movie has going for it is that Lex Luthor is not the main villain

Cavill looks great, why do you hate him?

As for Welling wearing the suit, may want to get your facts straight, it was the other way around, Welling did not want to wear it, they apparently wanted him to.

 

[clancampbell]

I like how Cavill looks in the suit. he's big, bulky and bad arse!

Rich

 

[digger2307]

wow thats like the worst superman Ive ever seen. With the exception of 300 (IMO) Snyder has metaphorically raped every movie he has directed. I am a huge fan of the watchmen comics and was appauled by his take on it, and for some reason (most likely Emily Browning and Jamie Chung) I sat thru Suckerpunch, and that was like watching bad cut scenes from a videogame. I forsee this being a complete joke (basically it turning into the film the suits wanted Kevin Smith to write). I see this bombing and bombing bad.

Oh and be prepared for a tonne of SLOW MOTION, DOUBLE SPEED, SLOW MOTION, EXTREME ANGLES, SLOW MOTION... END! (yes that was meant to be in caps)

 

[LightStreak]

wow thats like the worst superman Ive ever seen. With the exception of 300 (IMO) Snyder has metaphorically raped every movie he has directed. I am a huge fan of the watchmen comics and was appauled by his take on it, and for some reason (most likely Emily Browning and Jamie Chung) I sat thru Suckerpunch, and that was like watching bad cut scenes from a videogame. I forsee this being a complete joke (basically it turning into the film the suits wanted Kevin Smith to write). I see this bombing and bombing bad.

Oh and be prepared for a tonne of SLOW MOTION, DOUBLE SPEED, SLOW MOTION, EXTREME ANGLES, SLOW MOTION... END! (yes that was meant to be in caps)

I know what you mean. I dislike most of Snyder's films, never seen 300 though. Watchmen I thought was OK, but it was one of those arkward moments when a superhero film wasn't a superhero film. Worked for the book, but not on the big screen I think.
I would have been worried about Man of Steel, but when you think, Nolan is going to be there every time Snyder slips off the mark, banging him back into shape. Nolan would not let anything go onto the big screen unless it is 100% as good as it could be, The Dark Knight is proof, and I don't think Man of Steel will be any different.

 

[Reidydog]

Russell Crowe in costume as Jor-El:

UPDATE: Man Of Steel: First Look At Russell Crowe In His Jor El Costume

 

[Werstrooper]

Russell Crowe in costume as Jor-El:

UPDATE: Man Of Steel: First Look At Russell Crowe In His Jor El Costume

So Kryptonians can get fat after all :lol

 

[JoMamma_Smurf]

WTF?!?!? That's god awful!!

 

[Wes R]

On Krypton they dress like rejects from a bad fantasy film?

 

[Kal]

So Kryptonians can get fat after all :lol

He's not fat. He was just stung by alot of bees

 

[Wes R]

That gut makes him look like Homer Simpson wearing a muumuu in that shot.

 

[KorrickUSCM]

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