Lost season 6 with spoilers beware

We didn't see whether Claire was on the flight or not - I presume she was. The girl who "wasn't with Boone" would have been his sister, Shannon.
Whoops, that's who I meant. Right, we never saw Shannon at all. Somehow the timeline change altered those events.
 
on jimmy kimmel he pointed out to damon and carlton that walt, shannon and michael werent on the plane, and they said it was a big deal. so we will get more info on them later.

my original theory for the two different timelines is that they were both existing at the same time due to juliet setting off the bomb, but i read another theory from another fan that im interested in also. he was saying that the timeline where they land in LAX was a flash forward. that instead of the plan working completely, that it was still in motion and that later on in the series we would see the rest of their plan fall in to place, and the end result is what we saw on the plane in the alternate scenes. the only thing that makes me doubt his theory is that juliet said that it had worked. however our perception and knowledge of the timeline and what affects it is still very very basic, so we still cant know for sure.

god i love this show.
 
May be nothing, but it seems to me that - of the original Oceanic 815 survivors - everyone we've seen so far on the island after the blast were the folks seen interacting with Jacob in the past.
 
And the world in the alternate timeline on the plane was definitely different because Hurley thinks he's the luckiest guy alive. that means the events that happened before he boarded the plane were completely different as well. Same thing applies with Shannon.
 
Did the island sink as a result of the blast? Does that mean that Charles Widmore, Eloise Hawking, Ben and the rest of Dharma and the Others perished, meaning no Penny ever being born, no race and no reason for Desmond to even have been sailing in the new reality? (Also, no Faraday.)
 
Did the island sink as a result of the blast?
Given this crazy show, I think all we can assume is that the Island sunk sometime after 1977 in the new timeline, given that they showed Dharmaville underwater as well as the foot.

But, dang if I see bicycles everywhere. I loved that Sawyer had to throw a bike out of his way, trying to get to Juliet, what with there being bicyckists in the background of all the Dharmaville scenes in season 4 and 5.
 
I thought it was an excercise bike.

After last season's finale', carlton and cuse said that they have used flash backs and flashforwards and that in season 6 there would be a new thing entirely unique to 6. No FF or FB.

As to Hurley, he only got 'unlucky' after hearing 'the numbers'. If the island was gone in 77, did the guy in the instituion hear the numbers before or after that? If he heard them post 77, then he never would have heard them and never could have repeated them for hurley to win. The implication being Hurley was supposed to win the lotter regardless....

Oh, in last weeks re-airing of the season finale' when they used the little pop-ups, in the scenes where jacob met the certain losties - the pop ups made a point of noting that jacob actually touched each of them. It also noted that when he went to the new girl who was head of the 'good guys' on the akira flight, that it isn't clear if he touched her or not. I'm wondering if that's a little horcrux type action to help bring jacob back.
 
After last season's finale', carlton and cuse said that they have used flash backs and flashforwards and that in season 6 there would be a new thing entirely unique to 6. No FF or FB.

Right. What they're now calling the "flash-sideways," being the alternate timeline stuff.

As to Hurley, he only got 'unlucky' after hearing 'the numbers'. If the island was gone in 77, did the guy in the instituion hear the numbers before or after that? If he heard them post 77, then he never would have heard them and never could have repeated them for hurley to win. The implication being Hurley was supposed to win the lotter regardless....

Yeah, that's one of those course-correcting things. Hurley was always supposed to with the lottery, no matter where he got the numbers from.

It also noted that when he went to the new girl who was head of the 'good guys' on the akira flight, that it isn't clear if he touched her or not. I'm wondering if that's a little horcrux type action to help bring jacob back.

Yeah, Ilena. I don't know if Jacob touched her or not, but I do know that with Bram dead, she's become even more important. You know, than she already was, what with Zuliekha Robinson being more well known than Big Beefy Guy. :)
 
The new timeline almost makes things opposite to what they were. Jack supporting rose-now opposite, Two bottles now one, Shannon there now not, maybe Walt's mom didnt die which would be opposite therefore Michael wouldnt have to go get him.


Biker
 
As to Hurley, he only got 'unlucky' after hearing 'the numbers'. If the island was gone in 77, did the guy in the instituion hear the numbers before or after that? If he heard them post 77, then he never would have heard them and never could have repeated them for hurley to win. The implication being Hurley was supposed to win the lotter regardless....

According to wikipedia:
"He first heard them from Leonard in the mental hospital, who originally heard them with Sam Toomey when they were in the Navy together in the Pacific. "

I'm assuming Sam heard them during WWII, but by the Hurley heard them from Leonard the island was already sunk. The numbers still work, but the island's gone so no bad luck.

There are lots of little changes in the alternate timeline before the time the crash should have occured.
Some were pointed out by Jimmy Kimmel when he was interviewing the writers.
- Jack is the nervous flyer instead of Rose (role reversal)
- Jack only gets one extra bottle for his drink instead of 2.
- Shannon's not on the flight

Edit - posted at the same time as BikerFett. Sorry for the repeats.
 
Also my friend somehow thinks that the spinal surgery that Jack talks about in the first episode where he cuts the dural sack and all the nerves spill out is done on John Locke. They show him performing that surgery last season and then he offers to consult John on his spine.

biker
 
I've been explaining the new timeline to people using Doc Brown's speech from Back To The Future 2 - the timeline splits in '77 allowing for the differences in the alternate '04.
 
I have never seen a full episode of Lost.

I feel like I need to go pick-up a few seasons real fast!
 
Also my friend somehow thinks that the spinal surgery that Jack talks about in the first episode where he cuts the dural sack and all the nerves spill out is done on John Locke.

While of course it can or can't be retconned, I thought it'd been established it was a woman Jack had been operating on...? And that it's been intimated it was the Julie Bowen character...?
 
Original timeline: hurley bought John Locke's box company.

Alternate timeline: he bought the chicken franchise.

Gary
 
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