Logans Run Prop Question: Follower

[Onigiri]

OK, through the wonders of DVD I have realized something (noticed something) I never noticed before. I had always assumed that the Followers on Logans Run (movie) were attached to the belts via a clip or velcro as I had been told. I was also told erroneously that the 'blank' followers seen in some stills and onscreen were the 'stunt' followers...nope. The sandman in the movie wear their followers with the instrument face facing IN (not exposed). Yup. Watch Logan after he kills the runner in arcade. He replaces the follower on his belt facing IN. I saw this and went and looked at the stills. Blank Follower with buttons showing on the right side (they are on the left when facing out). So I went back and watched again and I can see some sort of clamp looking thing on Logans Belt but throughout the movie the only time the follower is worn face out is when Logan signals the other sandmen. You can actually see the white bar and screens on the face of the follower facing IN in several scenes and the screws on the back of the follower.
SO, this means there was N
So, this means there was NO velcro and NO clip on the back of the follower. I can see some sort of clamp looking thing projecting off of Logans belt but I have no idea of what it looks like or how it works (black on black).
Can anybody help or am I the only who has ever noticed this. In the TV version they were worn face OUT with belt clips but I want to do the movie version.

 

[Apollo]

Noticed the same thing and am just as puzzled.

Maybe the DS Armorer can shed some light

 

[Serafino]

Total speculation based on questionable memory, but if there was a larger section at the top around the screen, a ‘holster’ similar in principle to the gun clip might have been used.

 

[micdavis]

The dummy Followers had a patch of hook velcro around the top half of the screen. About mid screen up.

The belt has a simple block of wood the width of the Follower screwed onto the belt from the inside with loop velcro covering the whole thing.

They did face in when on the belt.

The "hero" follower had an additional screen that went on the front to hold the slide being shown, with a lighted panel behind it activated by the lower switch. The upper switch lit the "lenses" that sits atop the whole thing.

And FYI, the belts were three rows of 3/8" surgical tubing covered in satin. then hand stitched with two inch elastics between them. And a Satin backing with some buckrum for stifftening.

I have pewter castings of the eight little detail parts that go between the the satin tubes.

 

[Onigiri]

AhHA! Mike, I knew I kept you around for something other then being my occasional foil on OT thread! See, this is one of those things that most folks never noticed. I kept going through my DVD though and could never find the top lens lit. Obviously it was intended too but its like they never used that feature.
So, basically then the HERO follower never attached to the belt?
Yeah, Max has a bucket of those pewter bullets...
Well Im on teh right track.. Thanks Mike...I knew I wasnt nutz

 

[micdavis]

To see the lens lit up look at the scene where Francis come to the Ankh lock.

He turns it on and looks around. After Logan goes through the door.

Here are the "bullets".

Yes I got them from Max, but they were originally beads that could be had a Bergers bead in downtown LA. Not even sure if that place is still around.

 

[Apollo]

Just scanned though some scenes and the block of wood makes sense.

Thanks Mike for confirming what I always thought, the belt greeblies were some type of bead.

 

[micdavis]

Just scanned though some scenes and the block of wood makes sense.

Thanks Mike for confirming what I always thought, the belt greeblies were some type of bead.

Well examining an original belt and gun in 1976 helps a lot.

 

[Rylo]

Mic, rather nailed it.

The hero follower was just built for post production. The follower is a rather plain looking prop anyway so the wrap-around screen not only made it look a little more interesting in the close-up but as Mic mention, it allowed the slide to be lit.

The followers you see through the rest of the film are wooden and are indeed worn facing inward. They were secured with velcro. They do not feature the wrap around screen. The top lens and the bottom screen window are also the same size.

I've handled two screen used followers and took my measurements from one of them. They both had carpet tacks holding down what was left of the velcro on the inside of the follower just above the screen. I like the look of the hero follower. It's really the only one we see in the film so that's the want I went with on past runs. I may do the standard version down the road.

NOTE: Yes, the top lens is shown lit when Logan enters the first tunnel.

 

[Onigiri]

Thanks guys, this is turning out be a very informative thread

 

[Rylo]

FYI:

I just put up a thread for a small run of "standard" metal followers.
I'm only doing about a dozen.

Run is full/closed

 

[Rylo]

Here's a quick photo of the different versions.

Standard on the left, hero on the right. Working on the standard, now.

 

[Ham Salad]

To see the lens lit up look at the scene where Francis come to the Ankh lock.

He turns it on and looks around. After Logan goes through the door.

Here are the "bullets".

Yes I got them from Max, but they were originally beads that could be had a Bergers bead in downtown LA. Not even sure if that place is still around.

How big are those (length/width?) and how wide are the gaps between the 'tubing' on the belt?

 

[Ham Salad]

FYI:

I just put up a thread for a small run of "standard" metal followers.
I'm only doing about a dozen.

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=43114

By the way, I couldn't post this on rylo's gun thread, and I just wanted to mention his DS gun which he's still selling:


>Recieved prop promptly, I can't believe you're selling this so cheap. Easily worth twice what you're selling it for- extremely well designed and nicely machined, no corners cut here. Handle has machined keys that fit into milled grooves in the reciever...it practically snaps together and you could run a truck over the finished product. It even has a screw cap like the original, and there's actually sufficient machined internal channel to rig this with an actual gas supply and igniter if you want an actual gas flame. MUCH nicer then expected, if you ever wanted a DS gun this is the best deal I've ever seen.

AWESOME. BUY THIS!!!!!

 

[IFA]

Hummmmm....I'm not sure that Rylo's non fonctioning gun could be upgraded as a working one !!!! I could say wrong but I think on the non working, tank is made in aluminum, brass on working....more solid to support calcium carbide high pressure. Be very careful, not a toy !!!

By the way, I couldn't post this on rylo's gun thread, and I just wanted to mention his DS gun which he's still selling:


>Recieved prop promptly, I can't believe you're selling this so cheap. Easily worth twice what you're selling it for- extremely well designed and nicely machined, no corners cut here. Handle has machined keys that fit into milled grooves in the reciever...it practically snaps together and you could run a truck over the finished product. It even has a screw cap like the original, and there's actually sufficient machined internal channel to rig this with an actual gas supply and igniter if you want an actual gas flame. MUCH nicer then expected, if you ever wanted a DS gun this is the best deal I've ever seen.

AWESOME. BUY THIS!!!!!

 

[Apollo]

Yeah it's next to impossible to turn one of his Non-working Pistols into working ones.

 

[Rylo]

Thanks for the kind words but your post is wildly inaccurate and quite simply impossible. All the ambition in the world couldn't make it happen. If someone were interested in a static replica with wide-eyed hopes of altering one I'd suggest saving your money.

If one had that level of skill they'd know better than to try in the first place. The non working pieces can't be modified in any way. That's what makes them 'non-working.' They're solid chunks of metal. You'd have better luck starting from scratch. Apples and oranges.

NOTE: The reserve list is also full. These are no longer available.

Again, thanks but it's important to keep this sort of thing on the level.

By the way, I couldn't post this on rylo's gun thread, and I just wanted to mention his DS gun which he's still selling:


>Recieved prop promptly, I can't believe you're selling this so cheap. Easily worth twice what you're selling it for- extremely well designed and nicely machined, no corners cut here. Handle has machined keys that fit into milled grooves in the reciever...it practically snaps together and you could run a truck over the finished product. It even has a screw cap like the original, and there's actually sufficient machined internal channel to rig this with an actual gas supply and igniter if you want an actual gas flame. MUCH nicer then expected, if you ever wanted a DS gun this is the best deal I've ever seen.

AWESOME. BUY THIS!!!!!

 

[Ham Salad]

Yeah it's next to impossible to turn one of his Non-working Pistols into working ones.

Well, the gas chamber is hollow and there's a machined channel that you could run a gas tube down, the handle is hollow for the wiring.

I've had people tell me you can't make a firing Blade runner gun too, and I did it. Maybe you couldn't do this without a lathe and mill, but I have a lathe and mill. I didn't say it would be easy, I'm saying it could be done. As to the amount of work, the hardest part of making any prop for me is doing the working drawings and figuring out how it has to function...and with this that's already done. That's 2/3 of the work done for you.

I don't know whay he calls this a static prop because the trigger, switches and such all work...it isn't just a solid hunk of metal.

Not sure about the brass tank being necessary, haven't tried to mess about with calcium carbonate...perhhaps the aluminum might oxidize? Don't know about that. I guess if it were a concern you could make a brass tank that would fit into the aluminum existing tank.

Regardless, Far be it for me to argue with my benefactor, so if rylo thinks you shouldn't try this then go ahead and don't try it.

Anyhow, regardless I still think this prop is great, and I've been making props for years and wouldn't have thought to make it this elegant if I had done it myself.

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php...925#post639925

These are still available I believe.

 

[Rylo]

Speechless

 

[Ham Salad]

Speechless

I see what the problem is : I got my maker wrong. The one I got, I got from this thread.

Sorry about the confusion.

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?p=639925#post639925

However, I DO have what I beleive is rylo's follower, which I got off ebay a long time ago-unless there is somebody else making aluminum followers? Anyhow, if he made mine I recommend this too.