Lambotour's false claim about MoM DVDs

[SithLord]

Let's discuss this false claim from here:

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=87044&page=11

I would like everyone to come forward who received a DVD from me for $400 from the Magic of Myth.

Please, come forward with proof. I don't mind seeing emails, paypal receipts, interest emails, whatever and anything you have in tangible verifiable written form as evidence that I sold these DVDs.

Please come forward.

And if there is no one. Then I would like an apology from Lambotour.

It is easy to make false claims about someone. Let's see you back it up.


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And if there is no proof, then mods feel free to delete this thread, after Lambotour has apologize.

 

[lambotour]

Wow, this is awesome. My own thread with my name in the topic line.:love

Since it seems you are about to have a nervous breakdown, I feel I at least owe you just one more response and I promise this will be the last one.

He's what I wrote:

You were SELLING the Making of the Myth DVD for $400, which you had ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHTS TO and yet you TRIED to profit from it.

Everything in that quote is 100% true. I never said you SOLD any DVD, nor did I say you DID profit from it. Your PhD apparently hasn't helped your reading comprehension.

This reminds me of the time on TPD when I said that you offered TD castings and you came back and said that you never offered castings to anyone (which was later found out to be a lie AGAIN when Mike came forward and said you had offered him one.)

You like semantics so much, well there you go.

You are so cocksure that there is no proof that you actually SOLD one because no one was crazy enough to buy one from you, especially when they were being passed out for FREE. Why would anyone buy one from you at that insane price, but you still tried to take advantage of people for something you had ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHTS TO, which was part of the basis of my statement from the get go. That and your hypocrisy which knows no bounds.

It was well known in the vader circles that you were trying to sell the DVD at that price. For you to deny that here is rather disgusting behavior, but then again it's you.

The MODS can now shut this thread down. There will be no apology from me, so you can call the guys in the white suits to strap you in that straitjacket.

Have a wonderful day honey.:love

 

[DrStranglove]

Seems kind of cut and dry to me.

Well, Sith... did you ever offer these for sale?

 

[SithLord]

Everything in that quote is 100% true. I never said you SOLD any DVD, nor did I say you DID profit from it. Your PhD apparently hasn't helped your reading comprehension.

Selling can mean having sold something. The meaning was clear. Don't try to qualify what you said by saying I didn't profit. Selling means actively doing business, not just offering for sale.

This reminds me of the time on TPD when I said that you offered TD castings and you came back and said that you never offered castings to anyone (which was later found out to be a lie AGAIN when Mike came forward and said you had offered him one.)

Mike was the only person I offered one too. Find someone else. Everyone else asked me for one. Ok?

You like semantics so much, well there you go.

You are so cocksure that there is no proof that you actually SOLD one because no one was crazy enough to buy one from you, especially when they were being passed out for FREE. Why would anyone buy one from you at that insane price, but you still tried to take advantage of people for something you had ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHTS TO, which was part of the basis of my statement from the get go. That and your hypocrisy which knows no bounds.

So you say I just offered them. Well show me the evidence that I offered them.

It was well known in the vader circles that you were trying to sell the DVD at that price. For you to deny that here is rather disgusting behavior, but then again it's you.

The MODS can now shut this thread down. There will be no apology from me, so you can call the guys in the white suits to strap you in that straitjacket.

Have a wonderful day honey.:love

Show me evidence I was offering anyone that DVD at that price.

And your tone and remarks clearly show your attitude.

 

[SithLord]

Seems kind of cut and dry to me.

Well, Sith... did you ever offer these for sale?

Why honestly would I be this upset and start a separate thread asking for evidence of any kind if I actually did sell or offer such a thing for sale? :confused

There is no evidence because it is a patent lie.

 

[SithLord]

This reminds me of the time on TPD when I said that you offered TD castings and you came back and said that you never offered castings to anyone (which was later found out to be a lie AGAIN when Mike came forward and said you had offered him one.)

And by the way, only four people have a TD ANH casting apart from myself and the guy who made the copies. I had one extra casting left over that I offered to Mike. What I meant when I said I never offered castings is that there was never an interest thread or open offering. But you idiots like to jump on any inconsistency in what I say just because you are upset about me discussing the TM ESB in any way.

 

[OldKen]

Nevermind.

 

[CSMacLaren]

And by the way, only four people have a TD ANH casting apart from myself and the guy who made the copies. I had one extra casting left over that I offered to Mike. What I meant when I said I never offered castings is that there was never an interest thread or open offering. But you idiots like to jump on any inconsistency in what I say just because you are upset about me discussing the TM ESB in any way.

This is just sad. After one 20-page thread after the other where you'd exploit the TM to promote the TD, we finally had to ask you point-blank if there was a financial interest. You said you never offered castings, and then later it turned out there were several TD copies being made, and thus people would want to be sure their investment was not in vain. You knew exactly what we meant by whether or not you were offering castings in the context of the confrontation. You white-washed yourself of what was in fact an agenda to promote the TD at the best possible light because there were financial investments made.

Your ability to dance around the dotted line while quoting people ad naseum with this holier than thou attitude is a turnoff.

This is the kind of B.S. that makes the hobby sour. I find it ironic you are so quick to assail T*E or Gino just to deflect the growing negative attention you're drawing to yourself.

 

[exoray]

Selling can mean having sold something. The meaning was clear. Don't try to qualify what you said by saying I didn't profit. Selling means actively doing business, not just offering for sale.



Mike was the only person I offered one too. Find someone else. Everyone else asked me for one. Ok?



So you say I just offered them. Well show me the evidence that I offered them.




Show me evidence I was offering anyone that DVD at that price.

And your tone and remarks clearly show your attitude.

After reading that reply, I'm guessing there is more to the story, seems like more emphasis is being added to minute and specific facts vs the overall accusation...

Professor Plum did it in the kitchen with the knife, no...no...no you have it all wrong he did it in the living room with the lead pipe... So prove it!

 

[patsmear]

Professor Plum did it in the kitchen with the knife, no...no...no you have it all wrong he did it in the living room with the lead pipe... So prove it!

I have photos to prove you are wrong!

It was Ms, Scarlett in the conservatory with the candlestick!

 

[exoray]

I have photos to prove you are wrong!

It was Ms, Scarlett in the conservatory with the candlestick!

Foiled again, at least we agree someone did it with something, somewhere...

 

[SithLord]

This is just sad. After one 20-page thread after the other where you'd exploit the TM to promote the TD,

Anyone can go and read the thread on TPD. Yet you call it "promoting". I was discussing that I thought the TD was earlier and of course the TM crowd jumps in to talk about the TM. But don't take my word for it, go and read the thread.

we finally had to ask you point-blank if there was a financial interest. You said you never offered castings, and then later it turned out there were several TD copies being made,

No. A few copies HAD BEEN MADE a long time before then. You are so daft. And I never publically offered castings Mac. That is what I meant. And Mike was the only person I offered in the course of our private conversations because I had one extra casting left. I only had two castings made for myself and I was willing to offer him one. There were two initial copies and then later on two more available. Ok?

and thus people would want to be sure their investment was not in vain.

In vain about what Mac? You are so full of it. You don't even know who has a TD casting copy.

You knew exactly what we meant by whether or not you were offering castings in the context of the confrontation.

I was not offering castings and I never have Mac. I made that clear. People have SL ANH copies too, but I never offered them. Duh!

You white-washed yourself of what was in fact an agenda to promote the TD at the best possible light because there were financial investments made.

Mac, I wasn't selling anything at the time! The TD copies were made a long time before that discussion, something you are obviously not aware of. There was nothing offered at the time of the discussion and nothing available either so your argument is baseless.

Your ability to dance around the dotted line while quoting people ad naseum with this holier than thou attitude is a turnoff.

You are the turnoff, and you are consistently daft when it comes to reading what people actually post.

This is the kind of B.S. that makes the hobby sour. I find it ironic you are so quick to assail T*E or Gino just to deflect the growing negative attention you're drawing to yourself.

Oh really? Ask yourself this. When have I ever personally attacked you without provocation? So what is your agenda? What is Lambotour's agenda? When have I ever personally attacked Lambotour without provocation?

And discussing the issue of copyright is something I enjoy doing, in case you didn't notice. I suppose you support Matt's actions then. :rolleyes

And please Mac, please list all this negative attention I am getting. It is just TM owners with their usual wining whenever the issue about ANH authenticity comes up.

And you know what? I NEVER had a problem with TM himself. The issue always comes up with the owners of TM copies that are upset. You guys have no idea how immature you act when it comes to your TM copies. You should all grow up for once and try to show the standard of conduct that he has shown.

 

[SithLord]

I am still waiting for hard evidence from ANYONE that I offered MoM DVDs for $400 apiece.

*crickets chirping*

Otherwise mods feel free to close this thread and consider it case closed.

 

[exoray]

I am still waiting for hard evidence from ANYONE that I offered MoM DVDs for $400 apiece.

*crickets chirping*

Otherwise mods feel free to close this thread and consider it case closed.

From your statements in this thread by you, (that IMO self incriminate to some degree) I have drawn my own conclusion that yes you did in fact offer said DVD up for sale for some amount... Might not have been $400, you might not have sold any but the dancing around small details certainly leads me to believe there is in fact some truth that you offered it up for some dollar amount but you seem to want to focus and distract with the details vs simply addressing the accusation front on...

So I guess the simple solution is a simple yes/no question to set the record straight so there are no misunderstandings, did you at any time offer up bootleg copies of the MoM DVD for sale? I'm not asking about the price, whether you sold any or how many, simply asking if you offered said DVD up for a price to anyone...

 

[blipper]

You guys should all draw a line in the sand and start over. This place is a better place when you fellas put your heads together on something instead of butting them together.

 

[propologist]

who would by a DVD for 400.00 , I'm still trying to figure that one out . I was just reading how many TOS this thread is breaking and it's amazing

 

[fuelish]

who would by a DVD for 400.00 , I'm still trying to figure that one out .

I did, and when you tape it to the top of a broom handle and shine a flashlight thru it, the location of a treasure is revealed..

 

[propologist]

I did, and when you tape it to the top of a broom handle and shine a flashlight thru it, the location of a treasure is revealed..

you made laugh outta my chair on that one..Now back to pocket protectors at 10 spaces...

 

[Vadermonkey]

And please Mac, please list all this negative attention I am getting. It is just TM owners with their usual wining whenever the issue about ANH authenticity comes up.

And you know what? I NEVER had a problem with TM himself. The issue always comes up with the owners of TM copies that are upset. You guys have no idea how immature you act when it comes to your TM copies. You should all grow up for once and try to show the standard of conduct that he has shown.

And without fail Thomas has blamed everything yet again on TM owners....I am a little dissapointed not to see a little Den bashing also.

BTW TM doesnt get into these discussions because there is a real world out there (with women in it for example...hint) and Darth Vader is a big black piece of plastic from a 33 yo film not to mention he is doesnt feel the need to validate himself, his collection or knowledge at every turn like you do....maybe you should take a lesson from him also.

 

[vader71]

And without fail Thomas has blamed everything yet again on TM owners....I am a little disappointed not to see a little Den bashing also.

Amen.
I am sick to death of this crap being the TM owners this and the TM owners that....the simple fact is those who have the TM have seen the level of detail on the mask, unless you have a SL, TD or TM you really do not have access to "study authentic castings" do you? So there is only a handful of people that comment at all when you get into the micro details.

Who do you expect to comment?

SL owners are not even allowed to admit they own the castings or discuss them so that leaves you with how many people in the discussion.

This BS about offering vs selling is crap and you know it, in this hobby the only way to get anything is to ask for it as the good stuff is almost never offered publicly. Would you deny the SL is available for sale if you get a buyer that asks that you trust and offers you your asking price?

That DVD was offered.......Oh yeah I also received the DVD as a gift.:cool