Kick-Ass is awesome!
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tetsuyacasshern
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I saw it again this weekend. And wanted to generate a little poll. With the death of Big Daddy who is more to blame Big Daddy himself or Kick Ass.
The dialog that Hit Girl and Kick Ass share after the death of Big Daddy, Hit Girl blames Kick Ass for this event. The audience is conditioned throughout the movie to be sympathetic towards Hit Girl, and is siding with Hit girls side.
For Big Daddys death I am going to blame Big Daddy for a lot of reasons. First Big Daddy is the main aggressor, in the movie Kick Ass Is just a kid playing hero. Second you off enough people and play the game long enough it will come back to bite you in the butt, Daddy was killing the men stealing the coke and money of diamico, using the money and coke against diamico to fund his revenge will draw a lot of heat. Finally Big Daddy himself got sloppy, he didnt do his homework on Red Mist, like he did on Kick ass. Big Daddy tracked Kick ass trough his website, you think he would of looked into red mist.
Big Daddy is also guilty of capitalizing off of Kick Ass to draw diamico off his own butt, Kick Ass in a way was put in a game between Diamico and Big Daddy.
What are your guys thoughts?
The dialog that Hit Girl and Kick Ass share after the death of Big Daddy, Hit Girl blames Kick Ass for this event. The audience is conditioned throughout the movie to be sympathetic towards Hit Girl, and is siding with Hit girls side.
For Big Daddys death I am going to blame Big Daddy for a lot of reasons. First Big Daddy is the main aggressor, in the movie Kick Ass Is just a kid playing hero. Second you off enough people and play the game long enough it will come back to bite you in the butt, Daddy was killing the men stealing the coke and money of diamico, using the money and coke against diamico to fund his revenge will draw a lot of heat. Finally Big Daddy himself got sloppy, he didnt do his homework on Red Mist, like he did on Kick ass. Big Daddy tracked Kick ass trough his website, you think he would of looked into red mist.
Big Daddy is also guilty of capitalizing off of Kick Ass to draw diamico off his own butt, Kick Ass in a way was put in a game between Diamico and Big Daddy.
What are your guys thoughts?
From my local paper today:
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100425/FEAT0108/304259977/1007/ENT
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100425/FEAT0108/304259977/1007/ENT
Great review and i myself agree with everything in it.
Tan Djarka
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That's where you're wrong. Basically you're saying that the main character cannot discover a world that defies his knowledge or system of beliefs, or it's bad writing? Dave is the sounding board for the audience, and we believe as he does, that superheroes cannot exist. This is not the film's premise or guiding mythology, but the misgivings of a naive protagonist preparing to step into a much bigger world.
Once he dons the costume, he enters a world he never knew existed. It's not a transition to the fantastic. He simply discovers the world is more fantastic that he ever knew.
For the record, the jet pack did bother me a bit, but not for the reasons I suspect others disliked it. I'm pretty sure, while jetpacks do exist in some form, there isn't one that has a run time of over two minutes. I kept expecting they would have to make an emergency landing on a rooftop at some point.
Too me, Bruce Wayne is the only one who does it successfully, but he does it within his means, within his world of money buying the best equipment.
Tan Djarka
Sr Member
I'm not seeing that at all. In the case of Kick Ass, it's what happens to someone who's well intentioned but poorly trained. Hit Girl, on the other hand, has been honed into a skilled killing machine by years of training by her revenge obsessed father. I don't see a contradiction.
I haven't watched the movie and I don't plan on it, but how do they successfully portray an 11 year old girl as a skilled killing machine successfully? How do they get the audience to suspend their disbelief? I would have a really, really hard time buying it.
Tan Djarka
Sr Member
According to the "making of" book, they tried to stay grounded in the world of possibilities. Maybe some things she did had a one in a million chance of working, but they were still possible. Technically, they were no less plausible than anything anyone else does in any other action movie, so I don't see a problem.
Something to consider... When I was a kid and took karate, my parents sent me to karate camp one summer. There I met an eight year old kid who was a double black belt. That he was waist high to the average man didn't change the fact that he COULD KILL you.
They don't. There is nothing possible about the things she did - no one fights that way in reality - especially an 11 yr old girl. if you believe the things she did are possible in real life - well there's no sense in discussing this with you just pass what you're smoking to the left.:lol
My money is on the average guy.:lol
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
Guess you haven't taken a crushing blow to the crown jewels... that alone would make you want to die quickly. :lol
No - I totally agree with you on that one.
Too Much Garlic
Master Member
The fact that the guy brings up Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson is just a testament that he doesn't get it. For one, I think the humor in Sam Raimi's earlier work is very infantile and spaced out slapstick rather than actually funny - it's a cartoon caricature of reality. Something that's supposed to be horrifying is just made into a farce and a joke.
Not even the same kind of humor.
GrenadeKing
Sr Member
Pretty much. The weapons and styles she used do exist but, the film (and comic for that matter) stretches them beyond realism.
It is interesting to note, everyone here is saying, she'd get her ass kicked in real life because she's just a little girl. Doesn't matter how much training she has, yadda-yadda. Your all exactly right. The movie even shows that.
When she was fighting with weapons from distance, she did well. When she went toe to toe with D'Amico, she got the crap kicked out of her. That's what one would expect, and that's what happened.
The problem is, that goes a bit under the radar in the face of all the other bat **** crazy stuff she was able to do. It would be entirely possible to train a child to be a killing machine. However, they would not be doing the things she did because most of what she did, is not possible.
So, concept IMO, is sound, execution, not so much.
CGClone
Sr Member
Ditto. Saw it this weekend, loved it.
Great popcorn flick that has no bearing on being a real life superhero.
Its just another angle.
I was right there with you on that. For realism he should have just landed on the balcony area and not flown again. When he hovered there indefinitely, and even more so, took off with Hit Girl and flew a considerable distance, that was a bigger departure into outright fantasy than the character's ability to take ridiculous amounts of punishment.