Julien’s Upcoming Hero Phaser & Communicator Auction
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TOS Phaser
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Roger that! Robn1 pointed this out to me several years ago and I forgot it.
So row 5 in my table above - under the notes section should reflect:
Kirk holds the RL P2 with the
Wait a minute - the Hero P1 in the RL P2 cannot be the TMOST P1 - because that is in the FN P2 that Finney is holding!
Does anyone have a high rez image the scene showing Kirk and Finney in Engineering - where you can see Kirk holds the RL P2 and Finney holds the FN P2 in Kirk's back. I know it was posted on the rpf previously...
And now that I am looking at your second image - the back-top curve of the Hero P1 (in the RL P2) looks a lot like the Nona P1 on the UK P2:
So I think the Hero P1 in the RL P2 is the "Nona" P1.
TOS Phaser
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Is it possible - that WMC originally put the jewel on a watch crown for the Nona P1 - which was knocked off sometime after "Cour-Martial" and then the Desilu Effects Department only glued a jewel back on in a repair before "A Private Little War"? I ask this question because the Hero P1 in the dirt for "Friday's Child" looks like the Nona P1 to me (the sloped top rear and way left thumbwheel) and that out-take close up was made before "A Private Little War". Because if the crispy could be lifted and required trimming in some freak accident - then the jewel could have been stripped off as well...
I think this Hero P1 is the "Nona" P1. And there is a watch crown under the jewel and the jewel looks blue to me...
TOS Phaser
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I bet WMC put 2 watch crowns each with a blue jewel on the Nona and TMOST P1s.
And some time after "Assignment Earth" the original WMC blue jewel and watch crown were stripped off and the DED replaced it with a red jewel.
And some time after "Assignment Earth" the original WMC blue jewel and watch crown were stripped off and the DED replaced it with a red jewel.
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TOS Phaser
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THIS JUST IN:
Closeup of the Nona P1 (left) and the Finney P1 (right) in "Assignment Earth".
I can see the Nona has a crown and what looks like a blue jewel...
Closeup of the Nona P1 (left) and the Finney P1 (right) in "Assignment Earth".
I can see the Nona has a crown and what looks like a blue jewel...
AdmiralBaxter
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He rebuilt just about everything and effected the overall look of the P1's
WinstonWolf359
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I've always considered Justman's comment to be about the Laser Pistols from The Cage, NOT the B&W phasers. His mentioning how they were plain and unimaginative not only better describes the lasers, but if he really thought the B&W phasers were unimaginative, it's a pretty big dig at Matt Jefferies, since the actual phasers pretty much match what he designed.
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Sure looks red to me.
WinstonWolf359
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I'm seeing the same red Swarovski crystal (not a watch crown) in both the Private Little War and Assignment: Earth caps. There's some additional trimming and/or lifting of the mylar sight cover in the A:E clip, but it's the same phaser for sure IMO.
AdmiralBaxter
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Definitely Nona with a RED jewel
Chrisisall
Master Member
Definitely.
I thought it had been pinned down as a rhinestone a long time ago. My own static Nona replica has a rhinestone, too.
I presume that Wah didn't have enough watch crowns to go around, and/or Nona's was replaced with a rhinestone, at some point.
TOS Phaser
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I know better than to argue color. So I will talk about reflective surfaces and angles instead.
The original question that feek61 posed to me was about the Hero P2 that Kirk carried into Engineering, in "Court-Martial" and the Hero P1 on that P2. The P1 in that closeup on the "Riley/Lenore" P2 cannot be the TMOST...
So my original question was could WMC have put a watch crown or bezzel on the Nona under the jewel that was stripped off and lost? And then replaced with the jewel only?
Here is what I see when I look at the closeups of the Nona in "A Private Little War":
And this is what I see on the Nona P1 in "Court-Marital" on the Riley/Lenore P2:
And for reference here is the Nona in "A Private Little War":
See - the reflection on the jewel is not a flare or flash.
IMO - you cannot obtain the following image from "Assignment Earth" with the jewel as show in "A Private Little War":
The original question that feek61 posed to me was about the Hero P2 that Kirk carried into Engineering, in "Court-Martial" and the Hero P1 on that P2. The P1 in that closeup on the "Riley/Lenore" P2 cannot be the TMOST...
So my original question was could WMC have put a watch crown or bezzel on the Nona under the jewel that was stripped off and lost? And then replaced with the jewel only?
Here is what I see when I look at the closeups of the Nona in "A Private Little War":
And this is what I see on the Nona P1 in "Court-Marital" on the Riley/Lenore P2:
And for reference here is the Nona in "A Private Little War":
See - the reflection on the jewel is not a flare or flash.
IMO - you cannot obtain the following image from "Assignment Earth" with the jewel as show in "A Private Little War":
Chrisisall
Master Member
I've always read it was a red Swarovski, but when I made my Nona I just used a red... whatever....
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AdmiralBaxter
Sr Member
For the Nona Court Martial what you are referring to is a jewel as that is how the facets are cut.
On newer versions of the crystals some deliberately have a beveled base (varies based on which company makes them)
AdmiralBaxter
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So did I.... But bringing the new phaser in makes folks think they can question what was established with research
Tosfan1
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Are there any frontal shots of TMOST hand phaser (trigger box area) available? We have a lot of nice reference that is now available, but not that view.
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