Jes Gistang inspired female stormtrooper armour
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oota goota
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Thanks DDay the back pieces have worked out really well, the front pieces need just a few tweaks and then it should be game on
Thanks DDay the back pieces have worked out really well, the front pieces need just a few tweaks and then it should be game on
dday
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At first I thought the taper on the chest wasn't going to allow it to fit right on the ab, but seeing together it looks like they are a really good fit. I'm really into the form fitting nature of your suit and I think a chest and back that overlap and 'widen' the look to create an artificial taper are really awesome.
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At first I thought the taper on the chest wasn't going to allow it to fit right on the ab, but seeing together it looks like they are a really good fit. I'm really into the form fitting nature of your suit and I think a chest and back that overlap and 'widen' the look to create an artificial taper are really awesome.
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CSMacLaren
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I love the approach because it focuses more on the abs as opposed to just adding boobs. It's more elegant and cannon-looking to me.
I love the approach because it focuses more on the abs as opposed to just adding boobs. It's more elegant and cannon-looking to me.
oota goota
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Cheers DDay! yeah it's DAMNED close but it does fit. depending on what body shape a wearer has there might be a bit of customisation needed. The difficulty is if I widen the bottom of the chest plate out it reduces that taper which in turn erodes the hourglass look that I am trying for
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Thank you CS yeah I'm trying to retain the hourglass look at the female chest look without chucking a couple of boobs on the front! It'll be interesting to see how it looks when it's all together
Cheers DDay! yeah it's DAMNED close but it does fit. depending on what body shape a wearer has there might be a bit of customisation needed. The difficulty is if I widen the bottom of the chest plate out it reduces that taper which in turn erodes the hourglass look that I am trying for
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Thank you CS yeah I'm trying to retain the hourglass look at the female chest look without chucking a couple of boobs on the front! It'll be interesting to see how it looks when it's all together
oota goota
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cheers AF I hope to make a bit more progress after hours this week
cheers AF I hope to make a bit more progress after hours this week
dday
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I think the key thing here is to decide if you want to go for a 501st approval once you're done or do you just want to make a set of 1off armor.
If you go for 501st approval, the only way to go is to follow the deference material 100%. That's not to say you have to follow a single reference material, like the GG bust. If you can find the comic photos and such you can pick elements from those as well to integrate into your final piece. However, you can't take much in the way of your own ideas and integrate them if they modify the way the suit/helmet looks by too much.
A 501st approved set of Jes armor will get more attention and you'll sell more as you will be inviting an entire group of fans who want to play with the 501st to your armor. This is my suggestion, but I"m not you, and you're the creator, so it's up to you
Either way, you are on the right track and I'm eagerly watching
I think the key thing here is to decide if you want to go for a 501st approval once you're done or do you just want to make a set of 1off armor.
If you go for 501st approval, the only way to go is to follow the deference material 100%. That's not to say you have to follow a single reference material, like the GG bust. If you can find the comic photos and such you can pick elements from those as well to integrate into your final piece. However, you can't take much in the way of your own ideas and integrate them if they modify the way the suit/helmet looks by too much.
A 501st approved set of Jes armor will get more attention and you'll sell more as you will be inviting an entire group of fans who want to play with the 501st to your armor. This is my suggestion, but I"m not you, and you're the creator, so it's up to you
Either way, you are on the right track and I'm eagerly watching
oota goota
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Cheers Dday! Yeah I like the idea of picking and choosing out of the existing reference material to make a bit of 'blended' suit. But basically taking the best of all the material. This first version of the suit doesn't have to be final thing. It's pretty easy to change and modify forms once they are done so I definitely keen to keep a conversation going with the overall look of the suit
ok I'll be making some more bit soon and be bribing a mate to be a model for the prototype
I think the key thing here is to decide if you want to go for a 501st approval once you're done or do you just want to make a set of 1off armor.
If you go for 501st approval, the only way to go is to follow the deference material 100%. That's not to say you have to follow a single reference material, like the GG bust. If you can find the comic photos and such you can pick elements from those as well to integrate into your final piece. However, you can't take much in the way of your own ideas and integrate them if they modify the way the suit/helmet looks by too much.
A 501st approved set of Jes armor will get more attention and you'll sell more as you will be inviting an entire group of fans who want to play with the 501st to your armor. This is my suggestion, but I"m not you, and you're the creator, so it's up to you
Either way, you are on the right track and I'm eagerly watching
Cheers Dday! Yeah I like the idea of picking and choosing out of the existing reference material to make a bit of 'blended' suit. But basically taking the best of all the material. This first version of the suit doesn't have to be final thing. It's pretty easy to change and modify forms once they are done so I definitely keen to keep a conversation going with the overall look of the suit
ok I'll be making some more bit soon and be bribing a mate to be a model for the prototype
oota goota
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Hey all finally some more pics. I've rough cut the armour and will be test fitting them after hours this week. Going to have a photoshoot this weekend all being well so I'll be able to see how the whole suit fits together (or doesn't).
After that I'm on to the helmet. I'll definitely be looking for lots of feedback on the helmet so please pitch in if you've got any more ideas over and above what's already here. Ultimately I want to make a helmet that's balanced to the armour and the female form,, references the GG statue a bit and looks like a TK!
I haven't added a knee cell here but I know I should. To me the knee cell is going to look too wide and bulky and not work that well with the suit. I'd rather do two knee plates that would look cool!
I forgot to put the belt in
C and C welcome as always.
Cheers
Oota
Hey all finally some more pics. I've rough cut the armour and will be test fitting them after hours this week. Going to have a photoshoot this weekend all being well so I'll be able to see how the whole suit fits together (or doesn't
). After that I'm on to the helmet. I'll definitely be looking for lots of feedback on the helmet so please pitch in if you've got any more ideas over and above what's already here. Ultimately I want to make a helmet that's balanced to the armour and the female form,, references the GG statue a bit and looks like a TK!
I haven't added a knee cell here but I know I should. To me the knee cell is going to look too wide and bulky and not work that well with the suit. I'd rather do two knee plates that would look cool!
I forgot to put the belt in
C and C welcome as always.
Cheers
Oota
oota goota
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spacebob
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Great work oota
now i see why you were interested in my ep 3.5 trooper lid, the main difference between mine and yours is yours maintains more of the stormtrooper detail like the raised area around the eye cutouts.
i did a mock up of my helmet in photo shop and it looked better without.
i'll see if i can find the pictures, they could help.
Great work oota
now i see why you were interested in my ep 3.5 trooper lid, the main difference between mine and yours is yours maintains more of the stormtrooper detail like the raised area around the eye cutouts.
i did a mock up of my helmet in photo shop and it looked better without.
i'll see if i can find the pictures, they could help.
oota goota
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Cheers Azrael! I've got a photoshoot this weekend with the full suit of armour and a fairly big gun. I'm really looking forward to the shoot it'll be a lot of fun
Cheers Azrael! I've got a photoshoot this weekend with the full suit of armour and a fairly big gun
. I'm really looking forward to the shoot it'll be a lot of fun
oota goota
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Hey Spacebob yeah man! When I saw your helmet I was struck by how close it was to the GG statue of Jes Gistang especially the ep3 scoops. I'd really appreciate the pics if you can post them. The helmet's going to be an interesting one, how to capture the feel of the statue or the tk. So I'm hoping to get a bit of feedback from people as I work through the design
Cheers
Oota
Great work oota
now i see why you were interested in my ep 3.5 trooper lid, the main difference between mine and yours is yours maintains more of the stormtrooper detail like the raised area around the eye cutouts.
i did a mock up of my helmet in photo shop and it looked better without.
i'll see if i can find the pictures, they could help.
Hey Spacebob yeah man! When I saw your helmet I was struck by how close it was to the GG statue of Jes Gistang especially the ep3 scoops. I'd really appreciate the pics if you can post them. The helmet's going to be an interesting one, how to capture the feel of the statue or the tk. So I'm hoping to get a bit of feedback from people as I work through the design
Cheers
Oota
oota goota
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Hey all here's the first batch of pics after a weekend photoshoot. I took the same set of rough-trimmed armour and taped it on 4 models. The idea of this shoot was to see how well the armour would sit on different female body shapes; 'a proof of concept' rather than a finished suit.
There are a number of pieces missing (knee cell, knee pad, costume boots) I used my helmet in the shoot to show that they are a bit big
So the models heights were between 5'8 and 5'11, busts between 37" and 39" waists between 28.5 and 35" and hips between 38" and 41.5". I'm sure the suit can handle shorter/ taller, wider and thinner people. It's definitely a case of custom fitting and trimming.
The quality of the cameras we used varied wildly so some pics are better than others. Overall I was very happy with the result and the next step will be to custom fit the armour which will improve the fit even more, start the helmet build, incorporate any necessary changes and then have another photoshoot
Hey all here's the first batch of pics after a weekend photoshoot. I took the same set of rough-trimmed armour and taped it on 4 models. The idea of this shoot was to see how well the armour would sit on different female body shapes; 'a proof of concept' rather than a finished suit.
There are a number of pieces missing (knee cell, knee pad, costume boots) I used my helmet in the shoot to show that they are a bit big
So the models heights were between 5'8 and 5'11, busts between 37" and 39" waists between 28.5 and 35" and hips between 38" and 41.5". I'm sure the suit can handle shorter/ taller, wider and thinner people. It's definitely a case of custom fitting and trimming.
The quality of the cameras we used varied wildly
so some pics are better than others. Overall I was very happy with the result and the next step will be to custom fit the armour which will improve the fit even more, start the helmet build, incorporate any necessary changes and then have another photoshoot
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dday
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Looking good!
Come comments on how the pieces work in relation to each other....
1. The Buttplate, ends in a abrupt line on the hips. I think it should taper up much more to meet smoothly with the ab/crotch somewhere. From looking at the GG statue, this is done, but I'm not sure about the action figure. I like the aesthetics of the GG bust in this place though, it makes the costume flow, like it's a single unit vs individual pieces.
I think changing the shape of the butt plate might be needed to help with that the next suggestion. SHaped more like this in the GG bust will help to make the pieces fit visually better together.
2. The top of the thighs don't look like they fit in. It looks like they should be taller and curve some more, to fit the form of the crotch and the butt.
Here is a shot of the GG bust that captures the angles and aesthetics I'm referring to.
Kinda small, but you can see the angle on the left hip where the thigh seems like it should fit into that gap.
3. Coverstrips vs clamshell. The GG bust has no seams on the front, like a clone, but if we're trying to go more stormtrooper and less clone... then the coverstips will be a welcome addition to this suit.
4. the backplate... I feel it needs to stick out some more, to help balance with the front that sticks out more compared to a TK. IT seems flat, where the front is more curved. Also, if you're going with the TK style backpack, the gear needs some work as it's not very accurate to the standard TK. The one above looks more like a volcano vs a gear.
Looking good!
Come comments on how the pieces work in relation to each other....
1. The Buttplate, ends in a abrupt line on the hips. I think it should taper up much more to meet smoothly with the ab/crotch somewhere. From looking at the GG statue, this is done, but I'm not sure about the action figure. I like the aesthetics of the GG bust in this place though, it makes the costume flow, like it's a single unit vs individual pieces.
I think changing the shape of the butt plate might be needed to help with that the next suggestion. SHaped more like this in the GG bust will help to make the pieces fit visually better together.
2. The top of the thighs don't look like they fit in. It looks like they should be taller and curve some more, to fit the form of the crotch and the butt.
Here is a shot of the GG bust that captures the angles and aesthetics I'm referring to.
Kinda small, but you can see the angle on the left hip where the thigh seems like it should fit into that gap.
3. Coverstrips vs clamshell. The GG bust has no seams on the front, like a clone, but if we're trying to go more stormtrooper and less clone... then the coverstips will be a welcome addition to this suit.
4. the backplate... I feel it needs to stick out some more, to help balance with the front that sticks out more compared to a TK. IT seems flat, where the front is more curved. Also, if you're going with the TK style backpack, the gear needs some work as it's not very accurate to the standard TK. The one above looks more like a volcano vs a gear.
oota goota
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Re: Jes Gistang inspired stormtrooper armour
Hey dday thanks for the feedback that's awesome! My comments under yours
Yeah I agree the butt plate could taper up to the bottom of the ab/ lower back. One option is to trim the line on a 45 degree angle or trim to a taper. The other option is to adjust the form to a taper. I personally favour a trim but lets see what others have to say
As for changing the overall shape of the butt plate I'll have to have a think about that. I might do a mock up to see how it fits. My concern is that a female trooper wont be able to walk very well with that shape. Still it's a good point well worth looking at.
Yeah I agree there's way too much black body suit above the thighs. I'll build up the outer thigh pieces and add a bit more to the inner so they line up. Nice!
The outfit doesn't have the drop boxes either ...
When I do a proper assembly of the armour I'll definitely use coverstrips it'll look a lot better
I'm reluctant to add too much more curve in the backplate as I want to avoid a bulbous back and chest But it might be a case of adding in a gentle curve maybe 20mm in the centre will add a bit more shape to the back.
Ha ha! I like that a volcano not a cog I'll see what I can do. Anyone got a cog I can borrow? Ok I guess i'll make one
After I put the suit together I realised that the armour is WAY more like the Jes Gistang action figure rather than the GG statue. As far as references go it's not the best thing to base a suit on but I do prefer a more tk look to the clone look.
So I am thinking I should also remake the abplate detail to be more tk in style but retain the current shape which I think works well. What do you think?
cheers for all the feedback dday
Hey dday thanks for the feedback that's awesome! My comments under yours
Yeah I agree the butt plate could taper up to the bottom of the ab/ lower back. One option is to trim the line on a 45 degree angle or trim to a taper. The other option is to adjust the form to a taper. I personally favour a trim but lets see what others have to say
As for changing the overall shape of the butt plate I'll have to have a think about that. I might do a mock up to see how it fits. My concern is that a female trooper wont be able to walk very well with that shape. Still it's a good point well worth looking at.
Yeah I agree there's way too much black body suit above the thighs. I'll build up the outer thigh pieces and add a bit more to the inner so they line up. Nice!
The outfit doesn't have the drop boxes either ...
When I do a proper assembly of the armour I'll definitely use coverstrips it'll look a lot better
I'm reluctant to add too much more curve in the backplate as I want to avoid a bulbous back and chest
But it might be a case of adding in a gentle curve maybe 20mm in the centre will add a bit more shape to the back.Ha ha! I like that a volcano not a cog
I'll see what I can do. Anyone got a cog I can borrow? Ok I guess i'll make one After I put the suit together I realised that the armour is WAY more like the Jes Gistang action figure rather than the GG statue. As far as references go it's not the best thing to base a suit on but I do prefer a more tk look to the clone look.
So I am thinking I should also remake the abplate detail to be more tk in style but retain the current shape which I think works well. What do you think?
cheers for all the feedback dday
dday
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I think that if you are going for the TK style, then I would agree to go for this TK look all the way, vs a mashup of the GG statue/TK. The form and more streamlined "feminized" look is key, and I think you're going the right path to combine this look with the existing TK style.
I'd love to see the next steps of the suit with a fitted suit and the new helmet.
Of all the models, I think the light red/blond hair with the nose ring worked the best. However, I do like the shot you got of the model above her with the more brownish red hair. Camea angle low and to the left, she is holding the gun and the helmet on her right hip. This is a great shot.
I think that if you are going for the TK style, then I would agree to go for this TK look all the way, vs a mashup of the GG statue/TK. The form and more streamlined "feminized" look is key, and I think you're going the right path to combine this look with the existing TK style.
I'd love to see the next steps of the suit with a fitted suit and the new helmet.
Of all the models, I think the light red/blond hair with the nose ring worked the best. However, I do like the shot you got of the model above her with the more brownish red hair. Camea angle low and to the left, she is holding the gun and the helmet on her right hip. This is a great shot.
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