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This is so vulgar. It's like something produced to be presented at a board meeting. This isn't art, it's a commodity. Each film is as disposable as the next. Is this meant to be exciting?
... Art can also be a commodity. It's not even that crass of an idea.This is so vulgar. It's like something produced to be presented at a board meeting. This isn't art, it's a commodity. Each film is as disposable as the next. Is this meant to be exciting?
Well I got excited. So yeah?This is so vulgar. It's like something produced to be presented at a board meeting. This isn't art, it's a commodity. Each film is as disposable as the next. Is this meant to be exciting?
The one I'm having a hard time with is The Flash. Maybe it's a great film. Maybe it's a terrific vehicle to reboot the entire continuity (I mean, it's gonna be Flashpoint, so, yeah).
But Ezra Miller is...not ok, and I don't buy the whole "They're getting treatment, so it's ok now" angle. It just really does not sit well with me. Of all the allegations of corpo-speak, to me, that part spoke the loudest about "We think we can make money, and that's about all we care about."
I don't disagree but they're between a rock and a hard place.The one I'm having a hard time with is The Flash. Maybe it's a great film. Maybe it's a terrific vehicle to reboot the entire continuity (I mean, it's gonna be Flashpoint, so, yeah).
But Ezra Miller is...not ok, and I don't buy the whole "They're getting treatment, so it's ok now" angle. It just really does not sit well with me. Of all the allegations of corpo-speak, to me, that part spoke the loudest about "We think we can make money, and that's about all we care about."
I agree, Millar's a real POS and there's two of him in this movie....!!...PASS. Both Marvel and DC are really running out of gas, so they have to resort to time travel to bring back past stars of their assets....lame.I can't scrub his nonsense out of my head long enough to suspend sufficient disbelief to stomach watching him/her/them in any movie.
Well, despite the the "Miller Problem" they aren't Ridley Scott. He would've reshoot it with a different actor...period!I don't disagree but they're between a rock and a hard place.
They got hammered for killing Batgirl and other things. I'm sure they want Miller gone, but they've put 200M+ into this thing by now and they know everyone wants to see Keaton's Batman....It's too late to recast him and reshoot all his scenes, so flush it and east 200M? Odds are it'll make money no matter what. Enough people want to see Keaton again that DC might be permanently damaged if they nuked both his appearances. People will have had it with them. Plus, granted this comes from biased people, but, word is it's REALLY good. Yeah, that's from DC so take it with a gargantuan mountain of salt....but if it is, do you kill a great movie, your reputation, and east 200M+ over the idiot's actions?
So, I get it from a public and corporate standpoint. Neither choice really is a win. They're very much in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation here.
I mean, yeah, eat the 200M and take the "tax break," since that's apparently good enough reason to cancel a ton of shows and movies otherwise.I don't disagree but they're between a rock and a hard place.
They got hammered for killing Batgirl and other things. I'm sure they want Miller gone, but they've put 200M+ into this thing by now and they know everyone wants to see Keaton's Batman....It's too late to recast him and reshoot all his scenes, so flush it and east 200M? Odds are it'll make money no matter what. Enough people want to see Keaton again that DC might be permanently damaged if they nuked both his appearances. People will have had it with them. Plus, granted this comes from biased people, but, word is it's REALLY good. Yeah, that's from DC so take it with a gargantuan mountain of salt....but if it is, do you kill a great movie, your reputation, and east 200M+ over the idiot's actions?
So, I get it from a public and corporate standpoint. Neither choice really is a win. They're very much in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation here.
If Ridley was in the Saddle it would defo tank as a movie..Well, despite the the "Miller Problem" they aren't Ridley Scott. He would've reshoot it with a different actor...period!
That may be so, but none of the major studios are in this to produce art. They're here to make money and to do so by creating entertainment, they're not in it, nor have they ever really been, for the art. If you're looking for an art film, then you'd best not watch anything from the mainstream studios and stick solely to the small indie and arthouse studios.This is so vulgar. It's like something produced to be presented at a board meeting. This isn't art, it's a commodity. Each film is as disposable as the next. Is this meant to be exciting?
Sure, but they're not producing entertainment, which is why the box office is in the toilet for most movies these days. What is the last Marvel movie to make money? That would be Dr. Strange and that didn't make much. Otherwise, phase 4 has been a pathetic mess. Everything else has been a financial flop. What's the last Disney movie to make money? Hell if I know. They are not catering to a paying audience; they are pushing a message that the paying audience has zero interest in hearing.That may be so, but none of the major studios are in this to produce art. They're here to make money and to do so by creating entertainment, they're not in it, nor have they ever really been, for the art. If you're looking for an art film, then you'd best not watch anything from the mainstream studios and stick solely to the small indie and arthouse studios.
I don't really agree. Arrival is a good example of a mainstream artful sci-fi film.That may be so, but none of the major studios are in this to produce art. They're here to make money and to do so by creating entertainment, they're not in it, nor have they ever really been, for the art. If you're looking for an art film, then you'd best not watch anything from the mainstream studios and stick solely to the small indie and arthouse studios.
Well, they're laying off approximately 7000 staffers...not going the way they thought it was supposed to goSure, but they're not producing entertainment, which is why the box office is in the toilet for most movies these days. What is the last Marvel movie to make money? That would be Dr. Strange and that didn't make much. Otherwise, phase 4 has been a pathetic mess. Everything else has been a financial flop. What's the last Disney movie to make money? Hell if I know. They are not catering to a paying audience; they are pushing a message that the paying audience has zero interest in hearing.
You'd think they'd have figured it out by now.
Layoffs don’t indicate anything. EA had had fantastic quarter of $1.3 billion in profits and immediately announced they laying off 6% of their staff.Well, they're laying off approximately 7000 staffers...not going the way they thought it was supposed to go
Everyone is laying people off. That doesn't mean anything. They are firing some of the worst people they had, like Victoria Alonso, but the people who need to go are the ones at the top that are making all of the bad decisions, people like Kevin Feige. All the toxic stuff is at the top and they're not going to let go without a fight. Eventually, the shareholders will get involved, but it's going to be a very long time until things get fixed.Well, they're laying off approximately 7000 staffers...not going the way they thought it was supposed to go