Iron Man helmet differences
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WarPig
Sr Member
I think it's because you asked for *documented* differences 
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I'm only interested in the Mk III - and ya know what? There were at *least* three versions in the movie, and I don't mean the Mk I, II III, but just the Mk III. There was the hero helmet, the "main" cgi version and the "credits" cgi version.
The Mk V helmet was the "suitcase" armor, and was red and silver, IIRC.
The best thing to do is check the different build threads, and PM some of the guys. You could also check out the SIWDAT board; there's reference material on each of the suits.
P.S. The Mk III has a C-scar; it's more easily seen than the one on the Mk V. The Mk IV is missing the C-scar entirely :lol
.I'm only interested in the Mk III - and ya know what? There were at *least* three versions in the movie, and I don't mean the Mk I, II III, but just the Mk III. There was the hero helmet, the "main" cgi version and the "credits" cgi version.
The Mk V helmet was the "suitcase" armor, and was red and silver, IIRC.
The best thing to do is check the different build threads, and PM some of the guys. You could also check out the SIWDAT board; there's reference material on each of the suits.
P.S. The Mk III has a C-scar; it's more easily seen than the one on the Mk V. The Mk IV is missing the C-scar entirely :lol
It all depends on how you turn it and which direction you are looking at it from and what time of day it is and whether or not you are indoors or out.
:lol
cboath
Master Member
Prove it! I want shots of the mold and then I MIGHT believe you. Even seeing the molds, i retain the right to still disbelieve what they show
lol
Bimmer
Sr Member
Forgive the 2 other yellow circles, this picture was used in another thread and i really didn't wanna photoshop, re-upload the pic. This is a screen shot from Iron man 2 with the mk4 suit.
As far as i'm concerned, the CGI helmets for the mk 3/4/6 are identical. WarPig, you mind posting a pic of the "c-scar" you're talking about? I've never heard of anything being referenced to as a "c-scar" before
Also, as i actually have the CGI Iron man helmet file, i can tell you that i haven't been able to spot any noticeable differences between the 3 helmets from the movie. As far as CGI helmets go, there may be differences between the actual hero helmets.
cboath
Master Member
Here you go:
There's a lot of speculation as to whether it's an actual scratch in the helmet mold, a paint chip, or just an odd reflection off one of the cheek angles.
I'm not sure everyone gets the c-scar joke
BTW, where'd that picture come from? Looks like the underside of the chin is grey.
Jkushwara
New Member
Hey guys - as far as I know (and I'd know ) the M2, M3, M4, and M6 helmets are 99.9% the same. The M2 (prototype chrome) may have some extra handmade rivet detailing but it's the same basic geometry. The M5 is the "suitcase version" and has extra scribe panel detailing in some key areas. The M6 might have a difference in small inset screw detailing. It's been a good while since I had to study each of the helmets so please excuse the vague detail descriptions, but the overall panel geometry and shapes are consistent.
The eye glow differences -it's all due to the rendering and render effects added in compositing. The base inner eye parts/ geometry is all the same.
And the C scar joke - classic ! I almost miss the drama.
) the M2, M3, M4, and M6 helmets are 99.9% the same. The M2 (prototype chrome) may have some extra handmade rivet detailing but it's the same basic geometry. The M5 is the "suitcase version" and has extra scribe panel detailing in some key areas. The M6 might have a difference in small inset screw detailing. It's been a good while since I had to study each of the helmets so please excuse the vague detail descriptions, but the overall panel geometry and shapes are consistent.The eye glow differences -it's all due to the rendering and render effects added in compositing. The base inner eye parts/ geometry is all the same.
And the C scar joke - classic ! I almost miss the drama.
It should be noted that the original sculpt had different details on the left and right sides. I believe this was most likely to check how different details affected the look.
As you can see in the quote picture, the corner of the faceplate terminates above the cheek rather than right at it. That changes everything from where the scribed line meets the faceplate, to the depth of the faceplate of the eye.
...none of those features (to my knowledge) made it into a production helmet.
-Nick
Jkushwara
New Member
Here is the original sculpt:
KaanE - original CONCEPT sculpt, yes. Original final production model/ CG or physical - no. Yes, SWS made proactical suits for IM1 and IM2. Once Tevis's part was done SWS modeled a 3D digital final production maquette that was used to fabricate the fullsize suit and also used as reference by the modelers at ILM to build the production CG model. This concept sculpt looks like it has a noticeably wider jaw and outward taper to the helmet from the top to the bottom that's not on the final production helmet - physical or CG. SWS may have scanned Tevis's 1/2 scale full concept sculpt and used it as a base for the digital model - i'm not sure.
If anyone has evidence to the contrary I'd be open to hearing it but to my understanding all the IM suit parts were RP'd from the digital files. I've never seen any evidence of lifesize production clay sculpts of the suit parts (or helmet). I also have not seen any evidence of any structural differences betwene the helmets on M2,3,4 or 6.
