Indy - "Lead" idol cast
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missileman
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I don't think it would be very safe to use pure lead.
You should look at some pewter / tin alloys. They will have a lower melting point, and be safer to handle.
CM1 10% Tin, 90% Lead & Antimony 577ƒ F.
CM3 50% Tin, 39% Lead 11% Antimony: Most Desirable 360ƒ F.
CM5 100% Tin 450ƒ F.
PS1 91% Tin, Antimony, Bismuth & Copper 425ƒ F.
You should look at some pewter / tin alloys. They will have a lower melting point, and be safer to handle.
CM1 10% Tin, 90% Lead & Antimony 577ƒ F.
CM3 50% Tin, 39% Lead 11% Antimony: Most Desirable 360ƒ F.
CM5 100% Tin 450ƒ F.
PS1 91% Tin, Antimony, Bismuth & Copper 425ƒ F.
I would ask why lead?
In the Raiders community the speculation is that "if the original idol was made", then it would have been carved out of wood and then had the gold layered over it OR carved out of stone and had the gold layered over it. IF it was solid gold, then it would weigh in the 50 lbs range and the way that Indy handled it would be incorrect.
In the Raiders community the speculation is that "if the original idol was made", then it would have been carved out of wood and then had the gold layered over it OR carved out of stone and had the gold layered over it. IF it was solid gold, then it would weigh in the 50 lbs range and the way that Indy handled it would be incorrect.
missileman
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If you just want it to be more substantial and weighty, you could do what Ozymandius is doing with his Maltese Falcon replicas; add some lead shot to the resin mix for extra weight.
I'd still like to see an accurate Idol with the glass eyes.
I agree that the Idol should not be terribly heavy. I own the Sideshow replica and though I love how nice it looks on display, it is quite heavy - not to mention the design innacuracies, which I choose to overlook in favor of the overall display affect it gives.
I agree that the Idol should not be terribly heavy. I own the Sideshow replica and though I love how nice it looks on display, it is quite heavy - not to mention the design innacuracies, which I choose to overlook in favor of the overall display affect it gives.
Forsaken
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Only problem is, pouring hot molten lead into the plaster can result in an explosion.
Al
joeranger
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Yes, pouring lead does have its issues. The goal of having a solid lead idol painted gold would be for the effect of someone picking it up and thinking "No way, cant be real..."
Casual movie fans would not like to think Indy risked so many lives for a gold "Plated" idol, but you are right about the weight being wrong.
My dad actually taught me how to pour gold this way. He would make a wax tooth/bridge/implant; cast it in some kind of plaster, melt the wax out and pour in the gold.
Can I assume you mean if moisture in the plaster is super heated suddenly by molten lead? It expands rapidly and shatters sending molted lead everywhere?
I have a lot of experience working with lead. I spent a few summers in a battery factory; hot lead, acid, explosive fumes, yahoo...
EDIT - Besides, I do have the MedEng-9 suit just sitting there
Casual movie fans would not like to think Indy risked so many lives for a gold "Plated" idol, but you are right about the weight being wrong.
My dad actually taught me how to pour gold this way. He would make a wax tooth/bridge/implant; cast it in some kind of plaster, melt the wax out and pour in the gold.
Can I assume you mean if moisture in the plaster is super heated suddenly by molten lead? It expands rapidly and shatters sending molted lead everywhere?
I have a lot of experience working with lead. I spent a few summers in a battery factory; hot lead, acid, explosive fumes, yahoo...
EDIT - Besides, I do have the MedEng-9 suit just sitting there
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Forsaken
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I bow to your knowledge.
I had assumed you were at first talking about standard plaster, not the
ceramic refractory casting material which has to be fired to high temperatures.
I did not know that the refractory casting material was called plaster.
And yes lead and its vapors can be very dangerous to your health.
Al
I had assumed you were at first talking about standard plaster, not the
ceramic refractory casting material which has to be fired to high temperatures.
I did not know that the refractory casting material was called plaster.
And yes lead and its vapors can be very dangerous to your health.
Al
joeranger
Sr Member
"I bow to your knowledge."
Well said...I had that coming
This is not a typical DIY project. Growing up in a dental lab gives you exposure to lots of stuff. I use to play with mercury as a kid
The casting material we used was not the hardware store stuff.
Lead is a danger to work with and store.
Well said...I had that coming
This is not a typical DIY project. Growing up in a dental lab gives you exposure to lots of stuff. I use to play with mercury as a kid
The casting material we used was not the hardware store stuff.
Lead is a danger to work with and store.
Hovito loincloth
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" Throw me the Idol, I'll throw you the whip"
> THUD<
"Owwwww, man that really hurt."
> THUD<
"Owwwww, man that really hurt."
"
I use to play with mercury as a kid
Well, there's your problem. :lol
Stelter Creative offers a few variations of the idol. I believe he has one with glass eyes, animatronic eyes and a few others. You can check out his site at: .... Hope this helps
Forsaken
Well-Known Member
"I bow to your knowledge."
Well said...I had that coming
This is not a typical DIY project. Growing up in a dental lab gives you exposure to lots of stuff. I use to play with mercury as a kid
The casting material we used was not the hardware store stuff.
Lead is a danger to work with and store.
I really did mean that as a compliment.
Many years ago I worked at a Rayovac battery factory and knew someone who suffered from mercury poisoning. He seemed OK, but suffered from shakes.
He was lucky he never became Mad as a Hatter.
Al
