I kept hearing the line in my head
Marsha Marsha Marsha!
The film it was from escapes me atm.. Grease? or a Spielberg movie ?
Once I post as always it will fly into my head.
ICONS UNEARTHED: STAR WARS featuring Marcia Lucas interview
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Marsha Marsha Marsha!
The film it was from escapes me atm.. Grease? or a Spielberg movie ?
Once I post as always it will fly into my head.
HeartBlade
Sr Member
No. It was another case of Star Wars being saved in the edit.
ESB was an insane risk for Lucas. Although ANH was successful, Lucas wasnt happy with the amount of money that went to Fox and the risk of losing creative freedom so he got a bank loan and used his own money at collateral to pay to film ESB, essentially bearing the risk of filming EBS on himself. So if ESB goes caput, so does Lucas.
The initial budget for ESB was $15 mil but ballooned to $30 mil (double). This occurred because the shooting was troubled. Long story short, tons of problems on set, Kershner tending to take a long time with shots and not filming much every day, and a fire in the studio ballooned expenses. Given that Kurtz was the producer, he should have pushed Kershner to get filming done but was apparently let the director indulge and shoot at as slower pace.
There were apparently scenes in the script that were never shot because of the slow pacing and that ESB needed to be made with the available footage although the extent is not know. It is known that EBS is overbudget and overdue significantly which led to the rift between Lucas and Kurdz.
Yet despite the messy production, like Star Wars before it, it ended up becoming an iconic hit film and considered the pinnacle of the franchise. Personally the older I get, the less interested I am in how they made the movies, because so much is already known, and the more I'm just grateful to have grown up in the era they were made.
You literally quoted the show!
To be fair a film is always saved in the edit..
Up until then it's just a series of set pieces filmed out of sequence with one or more angles and that's even before a score is attached.
Harmy did a livestream yesterday and people asked him about this doc, and he had never heard of it. He's going to take a look.
Given that VICE did a story about him years ago...
www.vice.com
Oh, and he has watched the D+ one, and says that footage isn't from his work. But he said he DID recognize the use of a fan version of Jurassic Park. (I wasn't even aware of a fan JP being necessary.....did the studio do crap to that film, too?)
Given that VICE did a story about him years ago...
'Star Wars: Despecialized Edition' Restores the Original, Unedited Trilogy
One fan spent half a decade putting together a high-quality version of the films without Lucasfilm's later edits.
www.vice.com
Oh, and he has watched the D+ one, and says that footage isn't from his work. But he said he DID recognize the use of a fan version of Jurassic Park. (I wasn't even aware of a fan JP being necessary.....did the studio do crap to that film, too?)
I'd insert the Pterodactyl scene from TLW to JP like it was in the book.Harmy did a livestream yesterday and people asked him about this doc, and he had never heard of it. He's going to take a look.
Given that VICE did a story about him years ago...
'Star Wars: Despecialized Edition' Restores the Original, Unedited Trilogy
One fan spent half a decade putting together a high-quality version of the films without Lucasfilm's later edits.
Oh, and he has watched the D+ one, and says that footage isn't from his work. But he said he DID recognize the use of a fan version of Jurassic Park. (I wasn't even aware of a fan JP being necessary.....did the studio do crap to that film, too?)
Maybe they cut out the annoying kids and the wobbly jelly.
HeartBlade
Sr Member
lol I guess yes.
These are kind of the facts of what happened and can be found on wikipedia or any interview regarding ESB's dev process. I just want to emphasize that George was taking a huge risk and it wasnt a case of just they had the film reel and they needed to edit it. It was a pretty troubled production.
I do wonder if this is also one of the big driving reasons for why Lucas really pushed for CGI and green screen in the prequels. He wanted to have the amazing unique settings like Hoth or Dagobah without the troubled shooting issues that result.
Well this was really evident with the ILM special that just aired on Disney+ in that the new digital screen technology is what he'd been envisioning for decades and he even said so in the documentary. The fact that he finally saw his vision come to reality was pretty cool I have to admit.
HeartBlade
Sr Member
Cool. Great to see his vision become reality.
It is crazy how much Lucasfilm has impacted special effects in the film industry.
Yeah Snow and Sand has defied many a director, chuck in The Sea and.....
I can really see CGI being on the radar back then after all physical composting had been round for decades well almost since cinema began.
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Depends on the movie lol"Composting?"...you meant "Compositing"
bwayne64
Master Member
Never thought I'd miss being ostracized and ignored as a geek/nerd. But I wish these interlopers would go back to the cool kid gang and leave our stuff alone. Hell they have sports and all the good looking people. Why do they get to screw up our stuff. Damn it !
joberg
Legendary Member
I think that SW showed the audience, and the World in general, that a lot of people were needed to build those models/props that we all love and try to re-create (as we have seen some members doing just that over the years)!
They had names, faces and the behind the scene pics added to the magic!
Apart from Trumbull or Brian Johnson; can anybody name many others who contributed to that iconic movie called "2001 A Space Odyssey"?
No, because these very talented artists were never as exposed as the ones working for ILM!
We learned, later (since most of the filming was done in the U.K.) that a lot of those same artists (Freeborn and all) worked for "2001 ASO" also
)!They had names, faces and the behind the scene pics added to the magic!
Apart from Trumbull or Brian Johnson; can anybody name many others who contributed to that iconic movie called "2001 A Space Odyssey"?
No, because these very talented artists were never as exposed as the ones working for ILM!
We learned, later (since most of the filming was done in the U.K.) that a lot of those same artists (Freeborn and all) worked for "2001 ASO" also
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