Hows this Indiana Jones Fedora? (and other indy questions)

DavidS

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$29 means that it cant be that great...... but its "licensed" eh?

i also saw one at Cracker Barrel resturant tonight for $29 that was not even CLOSE... had a lil skinny brim, made out of a fake leather stuff, but still had the IJ logo on it...

but still... i want a cheap IJ hat.... ...

second question: Whips

Ive seen the Joe Strain website and well, the prices dont surprise me and i might go that way, but any cheaper alternatives? i dont care much for a wallhanger, i wanta get out and play with it! and whats the correct length?
 
The Dorfmann is 100% wool. It will shrink if you get it wet. The taper is wrong, the brim is wrong, the crown height is wrong, and the bash is wrong. You can get it, and have to replace it when it falls apart, or you could just drop the money once on a quality lid. I recommend Peters Bros. For the price, you get a custom hat, that will probably outlast you.

As for whips, you can get cheaper than a Strain whip. You want a 12-plait whip with a double underbelly. Head over to indygear and jump in to COW, the forums, and they will be able to point you to a specific maker who will meet your needs. Be forewarned, they are a bit elitist though, so you'll probably be skinned for wanting that Dorfmann hat...
 
not really wanting it.... just saw it and thought it was funny for $29.... considering the AB ones are $250

theres a thead in the Junkyard now for an indy hat... might jump on that list, i dont mind dropping the change for a good peice of kit
 
Wow brother! I went to starwars.com, then clicked on shop, then clicked on Indiana Jones shop.

Then, I ordered the Indy replica hat for under 50 dollars. I would suggest that, unless you want to get one of the ones from the members here.

My wife wants me to get two hats. One we can dirty up with dirt and make it look terrible, and one we can keep very clean and neat!

Try the official starwars.com shop, then click the indy store!
 
I would also strongly recommend looking into a hatsdirect Akubra Federation IV. For the money, it may be the best IJ hat out there. I have one and absolutely looooove it.

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Adventurebilt or Herbert Johnson are the way to go if you want a great Fedora imo.

As far as whip length it was a 10 foot whip that was carried on his belt
 
Wait . . . the all leather ones they are selling at blockbuster are not accurate??

;)
...but when i was in there 3 people were buying them, the price is right and 'the masses' dont even realize what they are buying, they didnt have to be beaver felt but they could have made them look closer than that...
 
I'll second the Akubra Federation. Probably the nicest quality for a cheap price out there hat there is.

You have to bash it yourself, but that's the real fun anyway.

They're tough, rugged, hats unto themselves. Made in Australia and designed to handle some pretty hostile treatment. I've had mine for about 4 years of heavy wear. In that time it's been smashed, beaten, downpoured on, locked in a very warm car for days on end with the sun shining on it, (wanna turn a Dorfman into a faded, almost pinkish, cone of useless wool felt. Do this for a couple days!) almost buried in snow, covered in dirt, dust, dropped in a puddle of oil, gotten Arby's Barbecue sauce on it, (don't ask...) The list goes on and on... It just keeps looking better and better, (though I do want to send it off to Art Faucett for a good cleaning and reblock...but it doesn't really need it.

Get in touch with Hatsdirect.com, and talk to Jenny Nethercote. She'll hook you up!

As to Strain whips, yeah there are other cheaper alternatives out there. But you get what you pay for. Strain is a machine. He makes some of the nicest whips around and is #1 on my "Top 5 in North America."

You also can't go wrong with a whip from Paul Nolan, (Midwestwhips.com.) Paul is a brilliant whipmaker and a good friend. He and his partner Lauren Wickline are turning out some FANTASTIC stuff! I'd rate him a VERY close #2 behind Strain only because of HIS deep respect for Strain, and that's where he'd put himself, (he got started in whipmaking over a decade ago, by reading a bunch, asking a lot of question, and then finally getting frustrated, buying a $400 Strain bullwhip, and taking it apart to reverse engineer it. He then called Joe Strain to ask questions about what he'd found. Guts. Dedication. Determination. Fascination. Respect. and most importantly, Passion for what he does.)

My favorite whip is an 8 footer that I got from Paul. I wasn't even in the market for a new whip. Didn't have the cash. Saw Paul one weekend, and he handed it to me, (wasn't even finished! Didn't have the knots on it!) and said, "Try it and tell me what you think."

Two cracks later, I didn't even ask how much he wanted for it, or if he'd made it for someone else, or anything. I just said "This is mine. I must have it." No thought of barter, or cost, (or food and gas for the next couple weeks.)

Bernardo Del Carpio, (delcarpiowhips.com) doesn't make my above mentioned "Top 5" list only because he's out of Peru. However, he's currently visiting in the states, (Ohio, to be exact. With Paul and Lauren! I'll see him in a couple of weeks,) and his whips are unquestionably the most SCREEN ACCURATE Indiana Jones whips out there. His current bullwhips are closer to what was used in the original trilogy than what David Morgan himself is currently producing, (David has altered his design slightly over the years to what he feels is a superior whip, and won't "Do things the old way" on request.)

He's also currently doing a replica of the Terry Jacka bullwhip that Indy uses in Crystal Skull. Now, I've been a fan of Jacka's for a number of years, (long before Indy IV started shooting,) and I can spot a Jacka bullwhip a mile away. I recently saw a replica that Bernardo had done. Jacka has a certain way he cuts and bevels his strands that give the plaiting on his whips a VERY distinct look. Terry also has this trademark HEAVILY reinforced transition zone between the handle and the braid of the whip, (which gives it a stiff, very springy action. You can really see it in the trailer when Indy swinging on his whip in the warehouse, misses the truck he's aiming for, and bashes through the windshield of the one behind. As he's saying that he thought that was closer, you can see the stiffness in the whip he's carrying. Signature Jacka!) All of this in conjunction with how Terry does his knots and ESPECIALLY his fall hitches, make a Jacka whip easy to pick out.

Bernardo's COMPLETELY fooled me.

So, it's really all about what you want and how much you want to spend, (the other 3 in my "Top 5 in North America" kinda fluctuates, depending on what you're looking for. When you open the list to Australia, then it get's REALLY complicated!) Really, you can't go wrong with a Strain...Ever...but for if you want choices, there's plenty out there!

By the way, nice to see you here, David!

-thefish (Daniel G. Trout from over on SwordForum.)
 
Here's another vote for the Akubra Federation. The previous version was (and still is) a great Indiana Jones-style hat, but the new Federation IV they just rolled out is really amazing. And because these are in stock items you'll have your hat in a matter of days. For a hat in the $100 range there simply isn't a better value out there.
 
and i should get these from Hats direct?
gotta bash it myself eh? does that take tools or just hand work?
 
As to Strain whips, yeah there are other cheaper alternatives out there. But you get what you pay for. Strain is a machine. He makes some of the nicest whips around and is #1 on my "Top 5 in North America."


Bernardo Del Carpio, (delcarpiowhips.com) doesn't make my above mentioned "Top 5" list only because he's out of Peru. However, he's currently visiting in the states, (Ohio, to be exact. With Paul and Lauren! I'll see him in a couple of weeks,) and his whips are unquestionably the most SCREEN ACCURATE Indiana Jones whips out there. His current bullwhips are closer to what was used in the original trilogy than what David Morgan himself is currently producing, (David has altered his design slightly over the years to what he feels is a superior whip, and won't "Do things the old way" on request.)

-thefish (Daniel G. Trout from over on SwordForum.)


I've spent the past few days pouring over COW threads trying to decide which whip to get. I really want a "screen accurate" Raiders whip that I can take out and enjoy as well as display in a collection.

My problem is, I can't decide between Strain and Bernardo.

I am so torn... If Bernardo's are more Screen Accurate, why not rank them higher than Strain's? Is it that the Bernardo doesn't crack as well?

Somebody decide for me!!! :cry

It's a real shame David Morgan won't do them the old way. I really would like a whip with some lineage to the films (making Strain's a bit more attractive after his participation in KOTCS)

Anybody else have some advice?
 
I've spent the past few days pouring over COW threads trying to decide which whip to get. I really want a "screen accurate" Raiders whip that I can take out and enjoy as well as display in a collection.

My problem is, I can't decide between Strain and Bernardo.

I am so torn... If Bernardo's are more Screen Accurate, why not rank them higher than Strain's? Is it that the Bernardo doesn't crack as well?

Somebody decide for me!!! :cry

It's a real shame David Morgan won't do them the old way. I really would like a whip with some lineage to the films (making Strain's a bit more attractive after his participation in KOTCS)

Anybody else have some advice?
...you are aware morgans go for roughly 900- right? A real close to SA whip 10 ft 12plt STARTS at around 500-, i got a strain 6ft 12 plt crystal skull color for a steal and it is awesome, but i dont think i would ever have paid the regular price for it...
 
I've spent the past few days pouring over COW threads trying to decide which whip to get. I really want a "screen accurate" Raiders whip that I can take out and enjoy as well as display in a collection.

My problem is, I can't decide between Strain and Bernardo.

I am so torn... If Bernardo's are more Screen Accurate, why not rank them higher than Strain's? Is it that the Bernardo doesn't crack as well?

Somebody decide for me!!! :cry

It's a real shame David Morgan won't do them the old way. I really would like a whip with some lineage to the films (making Strain's a bit more attractive after his participation in KOTCS)

Anybody else have some advice?


dood, we need to compare notes because i have been doing THE SAME THING and have narrowed it down to those same two....
 
Wow brother! I went to starwars.com, then clicked on shop, then clicked on Indiana Jones shop.

Then, I ordered the Indy replica hat for under 50 dollars. I would suggest that, unless you want to get one of the ones from the members here.

My wife wants me to get two hats. One we can dirty up with dirt and make it look terrible, and one we can keep very clean and neat!

Try the official starwars.com shop, then click the indy store!
well, those are hats, and they are licensed, but they really arent close to what he wore on screen, AB makes the best and more expensive hats, i got an hj and an akubra fed(100- best bang for the buck)...
 
and i should get these from Hats direct?
gotta bash it myself eh? does that take tools or just hand work?

It takes steam and patience... Maybe an iron for the brim at times...and down the road you may want to replace the ribbon, but basically, for now, just steam...
 
well between this thread and one over on COW, i just placed an order for a Federation IV....
we'LL SEE HOW that goes...

Now on to a Whip........ im really wanting a Strain me thinks
 
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