Han Solo ANH Blaster From RIA, Prev on Pawn Stars

[Halliwax]

Ah, I see then. I had read that Scott had seen some high-res photos when this came into being a few months ago for authentication purposes, but just wasn't sure if that was exclusive and/or those photos were floating around or not. But I trust his word; and if he or anybody else that is reliable are saying that the numbers don't match then I'll take their word for it. So yes; clearly not the same base Mauser - but possible to still be a backup of Bapty's, at the very least.

Yeah the photos aren’t online, I haven’t seen any of them either but Scott to me is the leading expert on the dl44. And trust his word 100%

Definitely could be a back up! Which is still cool to me! But would never fetch 1 million..

To my the holy grail is the wood buck of the v2. That just sold at auction, I was figuring big time money.. it only sold for 10k...

No screen time is the problem.. then again the rejected stunt graflex sold for big money and that never had any screen time?

Weird now I think of it.. still don’t think the dl44 imposter would fetch 100k..

 

[Vanitas]

Yeah the photos aren’t online, I haven’t seen any of them either but Scott to me is the leading expert on the dl44. And trust his word 100%

Definitely could be a back up! Which is still cool to me! But would never fetch 1 million..

To my the holy grail is the wood buck of the v2. That just sold at auction, I was figuring big time money.. it only sold for 10k...

No screen time is the problem.. then again the rejected stunt graflex sold for big money and that never had any screen time?

Weird now I think of it.. still don’t think the dl44 imposter would fetch 100k..

Hard to say; I absolutely think it could be worth some good money even as-is, though it would mostly depend on supportive provenance.

Ironically, Rick had somewhat of a point - if they could unearth something like the Bapty paperwork of them selling it George Lucas, photos showing it in alongside the Hero (plus the other two supposed backups), or maybe even Ford holding it behind the scenes or something then I think it would absolutely have a 'real' place within the lineage of Star Wars props.

But without any such attribution it's really just a murky issue. Although if nobody buys it, then HMU Tony Watts - I'll buy just that dusty old scope off it for a nice cheap price

 

[Halliwax]

Hard to say; I absolutely think it could be worth some good money even as-is, though it would mostly depend on supportive provenance.

Ironically, Rick had somewhat of a point - if they could unearth something like the Bapty paperwork of them selling it George Lucas, photos showing it in alongside the Hero (plus the other two supposed backups), or maybe even Ford holding it behind the scenes or something then I think it would absolutely have a 'real' place within the lineage of Star Wars props.

But without any such attribution it's really just a murky issue. Although if nobody buys it, then HMU Tony Watts - I'll buy just that dusty old scope off it for a nice cheap price

You know another thing is Karl built the hero.. so even if it’s not screen used it’s still built by the guy who built the original

Probably would fetch some money

 

[deadbolt]

Great to talk with you again, Chris,

Just curious and no disrespect whatsoever, but what markings are you referring to? Obviously the variation of the scope is correct, but I'm not really seeing the dings and scratches that match up correctly with the original. Are there better photos of this particular (item) around by any chance for scrutiny?

Also, that mount looks extremely familiar to me, replica wise..but I can't seem to put my finger on it, I'm pretty sure I've seen that same two-piece mount around before in the past, although this one has been softened up quite a bit. Plus the Crossbar has the raised square section where the dovetail should be (which seems familiar to an older replica as well), and also appears to be the same material and finish as the mount, rather than straight up flat-bar aluminum as per the original.


-Carson

The scope is real. All the original scratches. It has a lot of extra wear but there’s plenty of recognizable sections.
Bapty has dug our a lot of real pieces but it’s all been mixed back in with their stock so it’s hard to figure out what’s screen used.
This blaster is most definitely fake. We should compile a list of the repro parts and where they came from.

Chris

 

[Vanitas]

I know there's the "three scratches" on the bell that we're all familiar with, but I don't know about any of the other identifying marks, if any. It does just look like the Hero's scope is all, at least to me.

And the first one that came to mind was, funny enough, Master Replicas' Limited Edition Dl-44, although it's very obviously not the right Scope Mount (looking at the LE just kinda hurts, how Master Replicas got SO much so wrong is a bit baffling in retrospect). But I would guess that this Scope Mount (if it's a replica and not just a different, original mount from Bapty) would have been made sometime around when the LE was released since they're the same style?

Though I'm not terribly knowledgeable on the many older, inaccurate replicas from across the last decade; so even though this obviously isn't a match to the Pawn Blaster, perhaps someone else knows what I don't.

 

[vader45]

Untill the right proof that connects it to the production surfaces it will always be a fake to me. We can't go by assumptions and educates guess. We were not there.

The weathered finish and grey color of the flash hider points to intentional/a copied piece, imo.

Edit: it dawned on me that it's missing the ribbed piece under the barrel/in front of the trigger. That should debunk it completely unless there is proof back ups didn't have it.

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

If that scope is real then that alone is extremely valuable.

 

[thd9791]

Forgot about the extra bump behind the bolt. ****.

 

[thd9791]

Whether this is a backup or the hero, the mauser on pawn stars really doesn't match this one, especially in the shape of the rear frame. The serial numbers match the resin stunts used in ESB. I thought there was only one bull-barreled gun here? Lets not forget the DISC of damage to the finish on the left.

Also, I don't see the triple gouge in the scope.
http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com/images/file/blasters/ANH_realhero_left.jpg
http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com/images/file/blasters/ANH_realhero_right.jpg

 

[Davy Jones]

I'd love to see some better pics of the scope but as soon as others here said it. I went and took another look and there are all sorts of gouges and rust spots that match even though the bluing has worn down.
Very cool.

 

[thd9791]

Wait really?! I completely missed them. Taking another look, but anything you're able to share I'd like to see

 

[thd9791]

I found the 3 scratch marks I think

 

[Halliwax]

Karl worked for bapsty right?

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

thd9791 thanks for sharing that picture of the real film prop. Here it is with this “pawn stars” blasters scope. I used the best two images for comparison..

 

[lonepigeon]

Great to talk with you again, Chris,

Just curious and no disrespect whatsoever, but what markings are you referring to? Obviously the variation of the scope is correct, but I'm not really seeing the dings and scratches that match up correctly with the original. Are there better photos of this particular (item) around by any chance for scrutiny?

-Carson

There are three short stacked scratches on the bell (actually 4 scratches since the top is a double line) and a long diagonal scratch above them. Those are the deepest original scratches that are there in the old continuity photos (pre grill and barrel greeblies). They are present on this scope but suitably darker with age and the black finish has worn off around them. I compared other areas with my high res original files and found several little scratches and chips that matched. There's just no way anyone went through that much effort to match the wear on the scope when the weathering on the rest of the gun is so horribly out of place.

Regarding the supposed 4 guns - Karl says they had 4 "f-ed up" Mausers and they used those. He never actually says they built four Han blasters.
The Hero was built from at least two Mausers. He could even be referring to the other Mausers converted for ESB and ROTJ.
Also Rick asks "You're the one that built this for.." and Karl says "More or less. Yeah"
To me, that sounds like hesitation because he knows it's been rebuilt and it's not original. His statements were all just incredibly vague.

Chris

 

[Halliwax]

There are three short stacked scratches on the bell (actually 4 scratches since the top is a double line) and a long diagonal scratch above them. Those are the deepest original scratches that are there in the old continuity photos (pre grill and barrel greeblies). They are present on this scope but suitably darker with age and the black finish has worn off around them. I compared other areas with my high res original files and found several little scratches and chips that matched. There's just no way anyone went through that much effort to match the wear on the scope when the weathering on the rest of the gun is so horribly out of place.

Regarding the supposed 4 guns - Karl says they had 4 "f-ed up" Mausers and they used those. He never actually says they built four Han blasters.
The Hero was built from at least two Mausers. He could even be referring to the other Mausers converted for ESB and ROTJ.
Also Rick asks "You're the one that built this for.." and Karl says "More or less. Yeah"
To me, that sounds like hesitation because he knows it's been rebuilt and it's not original. His statements were all just incredibly vague.

Chris

Completely agree, also think there’s some serious editing going on.. Karl is very aggressive about its authenticity.. and when he leaves he seems to even be negative

..or maybe he’s just like me and always in a bad mood? Lol

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

These are the details here maybe

 

[Davy Jones]

Anybody able to share the high res pictures which show the present day scope ?

 

[lonepigeon]

Completely agree, also think there’s some serious editing going on.. Karl is very aggressive about its authenticity.. and when he leaves he seems to even be negative

..or maybe he’s just like me and always in a bad mood? Lol

I felt like he was just miming his story with the prop in his hand, not that he was being adamant about its authenticity. The overall story is true - that's just not the gun or at least much of the original. I like Karl. He seems like an old guy with no time for this fake TV show.
When he walked away saying "OK, that's enough" it was basically "I have spoken." lol

 

[chubsANDdoggers]

Not likely outside from what we already have seen.