Larry Young
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If they had shown Mogo I would have just passed out.
Green lantern getting Horrible reviews!
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Amish Trooper
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In my area the theatre is cheap. I'll spend the 5 bucks.
Solo4114
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I hear Mogo doesn't socialize.
But anyway, Larry, how would you figure a relatively new convert to the GL/GLC series would like it? I'm talking someone (like...hmmm....me) who picked up the title beginning with Rebirth and has read pretty much straight through from there (Not up to Blackest Night, though)?
But anyway, Larry, how would you figure a relatively new convert to the GL/GLC series would like it? I'm talking someone (like...hmmm....me) who picked up the title beginning with Rebirth and has read pretty much straight through from there (Not up to Blackest Night, though)?
Larry Young
Master Member
I couldn't say; I haven't really read a GL book since Mike Grell was doing it, although Johns was a producer on this and some of my more nerdy pals say the story of the film borrows heavily from recent runs and/or applies the Johns mythos.
I honestly think the GL-movie-sucks crew is coming from the same Marvel/DC place fanboys do; that any random fan is going to be a fan of one or the other and rarely both. So if you dig the irreverent IRON MAN/THORsauce, the Analytic Reasoning of Fanboys Theorem states one subsequently has to hate any DC movie. :lol
I dunno, I think a few years down the line Jon Favereau is either going to be hailed as a god for figuring out the superhero movie for modern audiences, or damned for setting the template almost no one wavers from. The whole time I was watching this I was wishing for an Amalgam IRON LANTERN movie, because it was a little like watching one.
Capn_Jack_Savvy
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Ryan is a traitor jumping from Marvel to DC Universe!!!
What is it with the "GREEN" films lately!? All doing bad! Hulk 1, Hulk 2, Green Hornet, and now Green Lantern! Hopefully Green Arrow will turn out well............if it is ever made!
What is it with the "GREEN" films lately!? All doing bad! Hulk 1, Hulk 2, Green Hornet, and now Green Lantern! Hopefully Green Arrow will turn out well............if it is ever made!
Larry Young
Master Member
I will never get tired of correcting people who say HORNET did poorly when it won its weekend, was third-best-ever January opener, third best superhero comedy (admittedly a small field
), and took in more than double its budget in a mere two months.Also, it's a little early to say Green Lantern is "doing bad" when the only numbers out are for midnight shows where it did a hair less than X-MEN: FIRST CLASS (with three other films to provide audience awareness) and a hair better than THOR on all roughly the same number of screens.
Honestly, this isn't the crapfest everyone is saying.
But I kinda liked JONAH HEX and I think ARMAGEDDON is better than CITIZEN KANE so there's that.
Larry Young
Master Member
PRIEST and COWBOYS AND ALIENS, too. But it's still a fair point.
Just saw it.
Even with the complete lack of knowledge to the Green Lantern universe and it's characters, I thought this film was ok. Not great.
Things Jeyl didn't like:
- The first 15 minutes on Earth horrified me, and It wasn't because of Hal's forced crazy antics. it was more about having flashbacks of "Stealth". You remember that movie, don't you? We got our young hotshot pilots being pitted against AI jets that look a lot sleeker than the jets our characters are flying and the computer technicians who don't dress professionally.
- Thankfully the AI fighters didn't go rogue so I assumed everything was going to be fine, until the picture of his Dad showed up on the dashboard. OF COURSE! Super Hero movie where the male lead has some kind of daddy issue #344. I have a feeling Captain America is going to try it's best to be #345, with the Avengers managing to go all the way to #350 with it's five leading male characters. At least Iron Man 2's shoe horned father/son gave Tony's mother a name drop. There are no mothers here period.
- Eye Contacts. They don't work for me anymore. The Cornea and Aqueous Humor act as a transparent dome in front of your Iris. Iris being the part where the color of your eye is shown. The contacts seen here act as if it's the Cornea that's making the color of your eyes. It's just so plastic and artificial looking.
- Hal needlessly kills three former coworkers. I know they were beating the crap out of Hal, but this happened when they were done and walking away. What point was there in killing them? And yes, I firmly believe that Hal killed them because one of them hits a brick wall so hard that the wall itself collapsed into pieces and the other two were not seen moving in the wide shot. It also doesn't help that neither of them are seen or heard from again.
- Carol being the damsel in distress two times. The first one involving the helicopter was so obvious that it was like two magnets coming together over a great distance. I was going to give this a pass as Larry mentioned that she does help Hal out in her second kidnapping, but than I remembered that she just used missiles... Missiles. The combined energy attacks by the best Green Lanterns barely even phased Parallax, but primitive explosives throws him through a loop?
- HOW THE $*!# did Hal find the secret alien autopsy felicity? He just pops into the scene out of nowhere with no set-up, no warning and no reason.
- Amanda Waller. Like I said, I don't know much about Green Lantern, but I sure know Amanda Waller a.k.a. The Wall. Even though she's normally portrayed as being quite.... 'heavy', she leads a group called the Suicide Squad, creates a new Batman in the form of Terry, and can wield two heavy machine guns with relative ease. Also, she stood up to Batman. A+. Not the case here. She plays more of an interested government employee than a character who can lead a whole gang of bad heroes. Her flashback was interesting, but it didn't feel like it had any meaning to the story since she literally vanishes like *snap* that minutes later.
- Remember that one time when one of the Guardians tried to harness the power of fear and was turned into a planet consuming menace who could easily kill multiple Green Lanterns at once? LET'S TRY WHAT HE DID AGAIN! I'm sure putting the power into a ring it will make it work!
- And while we're here, I should also remind you that while I may be a red skinned alien who looks like the devil named Sinestro being played by Mark Strong, I TRULY AM REALLY A GOOD GUY!
- With the exception of the entire corpse shouting at once, not a single female Green Lantern got a speaking part. Must be the Prequel Jedi of the DC universe.
- Tim Robbins' role. :cry
- The pacing was too fast, especially with all the exposition that the film needed to throw at us from time to time. This really felt like a movie that was meant to be longer. Having seven confirmed writers doesn't help either. Reminds me of Mike's line from Space Mutiny "Passed from editor to editor in a desperate attempt to save it."
- Humans make the best Green Lanterns because we're so special. *sigh*
Things Jeyl did like.
- The Green Lantern suit turned out a lot better than I expected.. I loved the little waves of energy that were emitted from the little crevices from Hal's suit that quickly faded away.
- I loved how some of the Lanterns didn't look anything like something you would normally expect to be a guardian of the universe, like that big bee looking creature. I LOVE THAT. These bad boys got the Jedi beat in the diversity department. I only wish some of the most bizarre looking ones got to be actual characters.
- I think Ryan Reynolds did a pretty good job with the part of Hal Jordan. This may have more to do my expectations being so low, but he pulled it off. I did laugh out loud when Hal did a deep "Bale Batman" impression when trying to fool Carol. Almost a whole letter grade right there.
- Great acting and great make up for Hector Hammond. With the spectacular craftsmanship done on Hector and Peter Sarsgaard's acting, they totally changed his image. I honestly thought a different actor was playing Hector when his head was bulging.
Again, it was good, not great. The concept of the Green Lanterns is certainly one with a lot of potential that would separate it from the other super hero movies, but the execution is just crushed by the weight of doing a lot of things by the book. If there is ever to be a sequel, they need to have a new writing team because the dialogue was very subpar and the story was filled with way too many obvious plot holes.
Even with the complete lack of knowledge to the Green Lantern universe and it's characters, I thought this film was ok. Not great.
Things Jeyl didn't like:
- The first 15 minutes on Earth horrified me, and It wasn't because of Hal's forced crazy antics. it was more about having flashbacks of "Stealth". You remember that movie, don't you? We got our young hotshot pilots being pitted against AI jets that look a lot sleeker than the jets our characters are flying and the computer technicians who don't dress professionally.
- Thankfully the AI fighters didn't go rogue so I assumed everything was going to be fine, until the picture of his Dad showed up on the dashboard. OF COURSE! Super Hero movie where the male lead has some kind of daddy issue #344. I have a feeling Captain America is going to try it's best to be #345, with the Avengers managing to go all the way to #350 with it's five leading male characters. At least Iron Man 2's shoe horned father/son gave Tony's mother a name drop. There are no mothers here period.
- Eye Contacts. They don't work for me anymore. The Cornea and Aqueous Humor act as a transparent dome in front of your Iris. Iris being the part where the color of your eye is shown. The contacts seen here act as if it's the Cornea that's making the color of your eyes. It's just so plastic and artificial looking.
- Hal needlessly kills three former coworkers. I know they were beating the crap out of Hal, but this happened when they were done and walking away. What point was there in killing them? And yes, I firmly believe that Hal killed them because one of them hits a brick wall so hard that the wall itself collapsed into pieces and the other two were not seen moving in the wide shot. It also doesn't help that neither of them are seen or heard from again.
- Carol being the damsel in distress two times. The first one involving the helicopter was so obvious that it was like two magnets coming together over a great distance. I was going to give this a pass as Larry mentioned that she does help Hal out in her second kidnapping, but than I remembered that she just used missiles... Missiles. The combined energy attacks by the best Green Lanterns barely even phased Parallax, but primitive explosives throws him through a loop?
- HOW THE $*!# did Hal find the secret alien autopsy felicity? He just pops into the scene out of nowhere with no set-up, no warning and no reason.
- Amanda Waller. Like I said, I don't know much about Green Lantern, but I sure know Amanda Waller a.k.a. The Wall. Even though she's normally portrayed as being quite.... 'heavy', she leads a group called the Suicide Squad, creates a new Batman in the form of Terry, and can wield two heavy machine guns with relative ease. Also, she stood up to Batman. A+. Not the case here. She plays more of an interested government employee than a character who can lead a whole gang of bad heroes. Her flashback was interesting, but it didn't feel like it had any meaning to the story since she literally vanishes like *snap* that minutes later.
- Remember that one time when one of the Guardians tried to harness the power of fear and was turned into a planet consuming menace who could easily kill multiple Green Lanterns at once? LET'S TRY WHAT HE DID AGAIN! I'm sure putting the power into a ring it will make it work!
- And while we're here, I should also remind you that while I may be a red skinned alien who looks like the devil named Sinestro being played by Mark Strong, I TRULY AM REALLY A GOOD GUY!
- With the exception of the entire corpse shouting at once, not a single female Green Lantern got a speaking part. Must be the Prequel Jedi of the DC universe.
- Tim Robbins' role. :cry
- The pacing was too fast, especially with all the exposition that the film needed to throw at us from time to time. This really felt like a movie that was meant to be longer. Having seven confirmed writers doesn't help either. Reminds me of Mike's line from Space Mutiny "Passed from editor to editor in a desperate attempt to save it."
- Humans make the best Green Lanterns because we're so special. *sigh*
Things Jeyl did like.
- The Green Lantern suit turned out a lot better than I expected.. I loved the little waves of energy that were emitted from the little crevices from Hal's suit that quickly faded away.
- I loved how some of the Lanterns didn't look anything like something you would normally expect to be a guardian of the universe, like that big bee looking creature. I LOVE THAT. These bad boys got the Jedi beat in the diversity department. I only wish some of the most bizarre looking ones got to be actual characters.
- I think Ryan Reynolds did a pretty good job with the part of Hal Jordan. This may have more to do my expectations being so low, but he pulled it off. I did laugh out loud when Hal did a deep "Bale Batman" impression when trying to fool Carol. Almost a whole letter grade right there.
- Great acting and great make up for Hector Hammond. With the spectacular craftsmanship done on Hector and Peter Sarsgaard's acting, they totally changed his image. I honestly thought a different actor was playing Hector when his head was bulging.
Again, it was good, not great. The concept of the Green Lanterns is certainly one with a lot of potential that would separate it from the other super hero movies, but the execution is just crushed by the weight of doing a lot of things by the book. If there is ever to be a sequel, they need to have a new writing team because the dialogue was very subpar and the story was filled with way too many obvious plot holes.
Larry Young
Master Member
I swear I was sitting in the theatre and saw that scene and thought, "Oh, dang; I know what Jeyl's first criticism is going to be." When you're right, you're right. :lol
Jack T Chance
Sr Member
Well said and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm already looking forward to seeing it again ASAP!
Man, I totally missed that! They don't even show him in the concept art in Constructing Green Lantern!
As for Mogo... there's at least one image of him being used on movie merchandise... a T-shirt, I think... but I didn't see him in the actual film. Oh well, there's always hope for the sequel. :unsure
Larry Young
Master Member
Yeah, I don't know about that. This is what everyone thought was supposed to be Mogo back in March:
But I don't see it. It's just a round energy fleld.
Jack T Chance
Sr Member
Yeah, that's the image I was thinking of. At least Mogo's seen in the direct-to-DVD & Blu-Ray animated movie Green Lantern: Emerald Knights! You get to see an adaptation of "Mogo Doesn't Socialize" with "Rowdy" Roddy Piper as the voice of Bolphunga the Unrelenting!Yeah, I don't know about that. This is what everyone thought was supposed to be Mogo back in March:
But I don't see it. It's just a round energy fleld.
epilepticsquirl
Sr Member
here's a source I tend to trust more than most. Not all bad reviews out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T1htfyPqz8&feature=feedu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T1htfyPqz8&feature=feedu
dualedge
Sr Member
Just got back from seeing it. I'm honestly kind of angry at all the nasty negative reviews at this point. Folks that are complaining about this movie clearly never knew what it was like to dream about seeing a big budget movie featuring a second string character like this (i.e. any character that is not Superman, Batman or Spider-Man).
And on top of that, the movie is not that bad. Sure, it's not going to win any Oscars and some folks genuinely won't like it but it's a decently fun movie. There's one particularly cheesy scene I won't spoil but they point it out in the movie as being cheesy which kind of makes it acceptable by hanging the proverbial lantern on it.
On Jeyl's point... Hal did NOT kill his coworkers. :rolleyes He hit them hard first because he had no idea how to control his powers and secondly, folks in these kind of movies should die about every five minutes after the beatings they take and don't so there's no reason to draw a conclusion like that.
I haven't read any GL in a while so they may have changed some details I've forgotten or not aware of but it worked fine for me.
I liked Thor a bit more and I suspect Captain America will beat out Thor, Green Lantern and X-Men combined but it's a decently solid entry into the library of superhero films IMHO.
And for reviewers criticizing the CGI... I don't get that at all. X-Men had some bad CGI in a couple of spots... didn't ruin that movie for me but they did stand out to me even on first viewing in the theater. GL was consistently good CGI in my opinion. I can more easily understand criticisms about the casting or writing but I don't get the CGI-fest criticisms. I mean, what do folks want? Parallax depicted with finger puppets and GL wearing spandex? If ever there was a character that CGI worked for, it's GL and I think they did a great job personally.
Anyway, that's my $.02... Not the greatest movie of all time and also not remotely the worst. That still goes to Cat Woman or maybe Star Trek 5
And on top of that, the movie is not that bad. Sure, it's not going to win any Oscars and some folks genuinely won't like it but it's a decently fun movie. There's one particularly cheesy scene I won't spoil but they point it out in the movie as being cheesy which kind of makes it acceptable by hanging the proverbial lantern on it.
On Jeyl's point... Hal did NOT kill his coworkers. :rolleyes He hit them hard first because he had no idea how to control his powers and secondly, folks in these kind of movies should die about every five minutes after the beatings they take and don't so there's no reason to draw a conclusion like that.
I haven't read any GL in a while so they may have changed some details I've forgotten or not aware of but it worked fine for me.
I liked Thor a bit more and I suspect Captain America will beat out Thor, Green Lantern and X-Men combined but it's a decently solid entry into the library of superhero films IMHO.
And for reviewers criticizing the CGI... I don't get that at all. X-Men had some bad CGI in a couple of spots... didn't ruin that movie for me but they did stand out to me even on first viewing in the theater. GL was consistently good CGI in my opinion. I can more easily understand criticisms about the casting or writing but I don't get the CGI-fest criticisms. I mean, what do folks want? Parallax depicted with finger puppets and GL wearing spandex? If ever there was a character that CGI worked for, it's GL and I think they did a great job personally.
Anyway, that's my $.02... Not the greatest movie of all time and also not remotely the worst. That still goes to Cat Woman or maybe Star Trek 5
Larry Young
Master Member
I'm with you; it totally doesn't deserve the negative reviews it's getting.
You're wrong. They're never seen or heard from again. I think if they were alive they'd tell someone what Hal did. They're dead.
Larry Young
Master Member
They just don't matter to the story, so there's no reason to show them. There's 3600 Lanterns and maybe five have lines?
And, honestly, since one was a pretty high-up executive at Ferris (in on the high-level government contract talks, anyway), if he was dead-dead, Mr. Ferris or Carol would have probably mentioned it.
Except they don't matter to the story except to show Hal doesn't know how to use his ring yet which sets off an alarm on Oa to recall him for his five minutes of training. :lol
Well, they didn't mention that they were beat up by Hal regardless.
I think a lot of stuff shown in this movie didn't matter to the story, but back to your point. Didn't they already show case that he didn't know how to use the ring when he couldn't figure out how to work the darn lantern?
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