Interest Greedo Killer Accurate Grill

Oki Doki Folks… here’s the skinny on the run.


Aaron and I have been back and forth over the details and he’s probably sweated more time and emotion into this project than I have. I just posed the questions and sent the pics, and parts, and he’s meticulously poured over the reference, and my prototype mount, real scope dimensions, etc.


The run can move forward only if we get at least 20 people totally committed with a payment for a full kit. We may be able to make some extras, but to get the pricing down we need to do at least 20 kits to make this viable.


We’re looking at $575 per kit plus paypal fees and shipping.


Here’s what you’re going to get for your $575:


- 1:1 outwardly accurate Compac Super Scope replica. It WILL have mineral glass lenses, and see through, but won’t be a functioning magnifying scope with working windage, cross hairs, etc. We’ve used dimensions off of my real scope, and the cast that Adamata provided of the accurate front lens element. Also I provided Aaron with a real Compac front lens element for threads and dimensions as well. This will be the best replica compac super scope available. It’s a pretty complicated design to replicate actually, and most of the cost of the kit. The machine time alone on this piece will be pretty staggering, and it’s very large as well.


- 11 Fin accurate front heat sink/grill. We’ve looked over the few reference photos of the original part, and Aaron has determined the dimensions and all the shapes of the fins in scale with the original prop’s MGC base Mauser.


- Mounting Bracket for scope: I’ve machined from scratch the prototype for these parts taking careful consideration to figure out the dimensions as I see them based on how they fit to my MGC GK replica. I have to acknowledge Vince from Correllian Exports pioneering this area, as his parts were the first inspiration for me to tackle this version of the blaster. I’ve come to feel that the CE version of this is very accurate to what I see on the original prop, but I made some minor changes. As pointed out to me by R2Dan a year or two ago, the rear disc is NOT the same distance to the center plate as the front disc. It’s slightly further backward. The discs are in my opinion thinner than previous versions of the mount as well.


The cross bar is also slightly longer than previous versions.


- 1:1 replica M9 flash hider: This will be like the original although made from aluminum and have a machined aluminum wing nut.


- Flash hider to barrel adapter: Delrin???


- All Fasteners (screws) needed in various lengths, thread pitches, etc. for easy putting together.



Here’s what’s NOT included and what you’ll need to do/find on your own:


- Paint. As best we can tell the original mount parts were painted aluminum. Should be very simple to paint and weather. The Original scope is painted as well. So no expensive anodizing required on any part of this kit.


- Scope Mount Rings: You’ll need to find you own vintage Weaver 1” rings. Whether you’re going to Chronicles/post production version rings, or Screen used rings, those can be found on ebay and gun shops, etc.


- Parkerization of the flash hider. If you so desire to have it parkerized rather than paint, this is up to each of you to source.


- Base Gun. The original prop was made with an MGC Mauser replica, but a Denix will work perfectly fine. Bobadebt also has an awesome accurization service that would be perfect for denix builds.


- Scope will NOT have the Compac Super Logo. That will be up to the finishing. It will also NOT have the Solo’s Hold Logo.


So there it is. If you want it to happen, it’s up to you guys to commit… spread the word, and then… let’s do this.


Once the run closes and starts production, we’re looking at about 120 days lead time.
 
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I can't go a full kit I'm afraid. I only need the scope mount/knobs and front grill. I have a real M9 and a real Compac.
 
I only need the scope mount/knobs, barrel adapter and front grill. I have a real M9, scope rings and a real Compac scope... no other options?

I will buy the entire kit if I have to but it would not be desired. :(

I do have a buddy of mine who needs an entire set minus the "M9" flash hider... so if that is all that is being offered then that would possibly be two sets off the top. :)
 
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Scottjua,

If you are at the May 29-31, 2015 Dallas Comic Con, stop by the Landspeeder and Snowspeeder displays and say "Hi." I run a manufacturing company and machine shop and might be able to help you out on the machining on these parts. If you can't wait till then, contact me sooner.

Kenny Rogers
 
Scottjua,

If you are at the May 29-31, 2015 Dallas Comic Con, stop by the Landspeeder and Snowspeeder displays and say "Hi." I run a manufacturing company and machine shop and might be able to help you out on the machining on these parts. If you can't wait till then, contact me sooner.

Kenny Rogers


Speechless.
 
Ok, I have figured out 90 percent of the setups, and written the programs. I am hesitant to begin the prototype, as it makes more sense to build multiples, its not a matter if I can build them, its a matter of how much more time do I commit other than the part of the last year working on this project.


Serious interest in the Kit is what this hinges on. I don't have a problem prototyping this, however there is a couple things to consider.

I will instead only do a small run, because setting up to make a prototype is where I will refine the parts, and It makes more sense to run multple at that point since I am setup to run that part/parts already. And the cost of the kit at a lower volume is going to change dynamically.

1. that if more than 20 sign on the price per complete kit will continue to decline as the volume of parts increases. Somewhere at 45 kits the cost would be $500 per kit, this is the price break at kit line. At 60-100 kits $480 + shipping

If I made only the grills they would be close to $100 each at line breaks of 40 + that is a lot of parts at low volume including materials/ mulitple setups.
2. making 1 or 2 of these parts for people on the run drastically outways the time and energy and cost of the part in this situation
3. You cannot find some of these parts anywhere, ( the scope especially) and there being 30 parts per kit that include all the fasteners and mineral glass means that the cost of the parts is Kit inclusive.
4. Its easier to make some extras of the parts if there are many sign ons to the run, as running extras is something that is a common thing to account for QA
5. understanding that many of you need only 1 or 2 of the parts to complete your prop is important to both Scott and I . It really boils down to being able to offer more to a larger demographic.

6. If I go ahead and prototype these I might as well run a small volume of them, and I have a hard time assuming that much risk, I make lots of other props like lightsabers, and I have found over the years that interest in something means very little unless people commit, this Run will be En Masse.

If I thought that many people would have signed up, I would have started prototyping them already.

This is where the rubber meets the road, and I wouldn't have bothered to get involved with the project if I wasn't a huge fan of the prop myself, or want to help people have a accurate kit.

Scott and I talked at great length about all these things, and we took the amount of interest over the last several months as a warning sign.

Please consider this, and if do prototype them, then I will not offer parts other than in kit form if I run a dozen kits, and they will be more expensive.

This is very easy to understand from a Manufacturing standpoint. Scott and I worked very hard to make this kit be a reality, I couldn't tell you how many hours I have spent researching and doing production planning. The parts kit has a lot of details and there is nothing unfair about the cost at low production volume. I would love to do this kit and have it be a ready to assemble prop, Please post your interest or any questions, We posted as much info to answer as many questions as possible, and I hope I have answered any that may arise, if not please let us know if we left anything out.

thanks. Aaron

PS : having said that, if many people want just one of the parts, and this thread on a kit level fizzles out, then I may consider doing a run of 1 or 2 of the parts . The point of the kit was to offer parts that are not readily accessible, and the scope would be non functional and omit the Super compac brand logo model info. this is an additional process that complicates the end product on a cost level. I hope you all understand. thanks

As far as some of my work history goes, here is a video I will post as part of my resume:

http://www.soloshold.com/
 
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Scottjua,

If you are at the May 29-31, 2015 Dallas Comic Con, stop by the Landspeeder and Snowspeeder displays and say "Hi." I run a manufacturing company and machine shop and might be able to help you out on the machining on these parts. If you can't wait till then, contact me sooner.

Kenny Rogers

I'm undecided on whether I'll go. I just got back from Celebration so I'm all con'd out pretty much.

But as this is Aaron's thread and he has done all the parts drawings and dimensions research, he's going to head this one up. This is as much his baby as mine, and even less mine as I was only pushing to get it done, and provided parts I prototyped and measurements from my real scope.
 
Ok guys... everyone who's stated interest please speak up. This run won't happen without people in on it.
 
The proposed price seems VERY fair considering the intricacies of some of these parts, but I unfortunately won't be able to afford a full run anytime soon. I'm interested in a scope mount/crossbar/knobs and a flash hider adapter, but it may be a little while before I can come up with the money for those parts as well, if you do in fact end up with enough people interested to make individual parts available. Sorry, I know that doesn't help very much but that's where I stand right now.
 
Timing is horrible for me...I'm knee deep (sniper plate?) in a troopermaster TK project currently that's got my imperial credit situation bust.
The work you all have done so far is amazing though, I'm thoroughly bummed I can't get in on this run right now.
I'll continue to monitor though and hope that at some later date I can participate. Massive kudos to Aaron and Scott on their work so far...
I do agree that the pricing for the work is completely on par.
 
I have always been super flexible on how I do things in the hobby, I have done runs where I take deposits and let people pay the balance over a reasonable amount of time, this project is pretty heavy duty considering how many details are involved. As a huge Star Wars fan being a part of this project is pretty important to me, and when Scott asked me to work on it with him I was ready to commit to doing the best possible job on the parts, both as a fan of the work I have seen others do on the blasters, and as huge fan of the character. We really wanted to do the best we could, and poured over all the available reference material and we found things that maybe no one else had notice until now.

The most paramount factor was to keep the quality high and the price as low as possible, at the end of the day having a repro of stuff not many people can get there hands on meant that is was worth doing on so many levels.

I know that if I built them, and only did a handful of kits that not only would there most likely be a demand for more after the fact that there would be no supply for, but the kit in low volume would exceed what most people would be able to spend or be willing to spend on the parts. I am fully aware of that.

I have learned enough doing props that its more about the props than it is about money, because lets face it , you gotta love this stuff or it isn't really worth doing on a scale this small.

As we talked about this, we outlined the goals, and in order to keep the cost down, we made a couple small sacrifices to tiny details, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't be added by the end user, or by another service.


We will see what happens, and I have no problem with not doing the kits, We did what we said we were going to do, and make the option available.
This is a project that I cannot be as flexible on because we crunched it as far down as possible already, and the amount of work at 20 spots minimum is right at the margin , it really does boil down to interest.
thanks. Aaron
 
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Just verified with my buddy... mark me definite for two kits. 2 down 18 to go... I do not need all of the parts included in the kit but I am sure I can resell what I do not need. Thank you to both of you for going through all of the trouble of designing the parts for this run. I just hope it comes to fruition! :)
 
Ok, I have gotten a lot of messages just for the Grills, both through my website email and from other members.

I will open a thread for 60 Grills

Cost of each grill at 40-60 grills will be $49.95 + shipping,


from 30-39 grills the cost will be $56.95 + shipping

1- 29 grills will be $69.95 per grill + shipping.

Please post your interest. now when I originally quoted these parts they were to match the fit perfectly to the magazine, but since guys just glue them on anyway that is probably just a unnecessary operation and you wouldn't even know it when the grill was on anyway. However I will include the metric screw that is purely for aesthetic purposes.

This is what everyone seems to be most interested in, I might consider the Scope/ bracket kit. When I was asked to join into this project it was originally for the Grill and people asked about a whole kit, so I spent since last September figuring out the parts and a production schedule/planning.


Please post interest in the just the Grill in the line break mentioned above, and if there is enough we will open a official thread.

If there is interest in more than 60 grills, the cost remains the same from 60 up..
Thanks Solo

as for the kit, it will only happen if the interest is there, if that happens I will do those kits in conjunction with the grills.


Maybe we should take a poll of what part is mostly widely needed, and maybe we can concentrate on just those parts??
 
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Hey Alberto, Maybe it would be less confusing if I just opened and Run thread for the grill, and one for the kit.

Put a minimum on both runs?

Its very hard to do only a handful of each part and keep the cost down. I don;t have a problem doing them, when we posted the info I figured out my lead time with the other parts I am making currently, and in the material that was most easy to finish for the poeple that don't have access to many of the tools needed to complete the kits, Like doing parkerizing on steel, to problematic, etc.


I may just go ahead and start making grills, the problem with that is how many grills will sit around collecting dust until the end of time??
 
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