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Interest Greedo Killer Accurate Grill
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Nice! I already have a real flash hider and scope rings sitting on my workbench.
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
I know this might not be the right place for this but since there are some really nice images above, I wanted to ask this question:
It is commonly believed that the scope rings on the screen used GK are different than those shown on the archive images. I personally have those different rings on my blaster. However when I stare at the screen grabs, I cannot for the life of me see anything that makes me think they are different from the archive photos (except for placement). Could someone convince me one way or the other?
It is commonly believed that the scope rings on the screen used GK are different than those shown on the archive images. I personally have those different rings on my blaster. However when I stare at the screen grabs, I cannot for the life of me see anything that makes me think they are different from the archive photos (except for placement). Could someone convince me one way or the other?
yes... they are completely different from the post production chronicles shots.
you can very clearly see the weaver rings here. They seem to be the mid - high variant, or a low variant with the coupling face mounted high above the tension ring.
Same as in my pics above that Aaron posted.
If you look at the two styles straight on you'll see the difference. The "football" style don't have a flat edge to them...
you can very clearly see the weaver rings here. They seem to be the mid - high variant, or a low variant with the coupling face mounted high above the tension ring.
Same as in my pics above that Aaron posted.
If you look at the two styles straight on you'll see the difference. The "football" style don't have a flat edge to them...
Mara Jade's Father
Master Member
I see what you're saying. I guess the big problem was that I could interpret the line/reflection of the rings as the line where the top and bottom half of the football style rings join. But now that I look at it; if that was the case, that line would have to be higher up and halfway between the bottom and the top of the scope itself.
I find it odd that the fasteners/thumbscrews are almost invisible. It seems like with all the reflections going on, you would see some of the details of them.
Thanks.
I'm definitely in!
Please include me in on the run.
Matt
Please include me in on the run.
Matt
If there are any spots left... I an interested.
A buddy of mine wants one bad also so count me in for two kits. We will pay deposit if it will help push this run into reality!
SolosHold
Well-Known Member
Here is the deal with the weavers, you can find them on Ebay and Gunbroker pages pretty easy. Now I mocked up this style weaver, and as you can see I didn't concave the face of the knob.. My big question is since they obviously bent the scope to make the forward weaver perch on the barrell, and I was under the understanding that the KIT consists of the following:
1. Supercompac REPLICA
2 Greasegun Flash hider Replica
3. Grill with 11 fins and screw
I have all the fasteners Scottjua sent me for the Scope mount, I left some stuff open to you guys to Nitpick, and from looking at some of the members( SCOTTJUA's) recent GK commissions I understand why he mounted the weavers next to each other.( I just have to add the through holes and countersinks on the mounting bracket parts) For consideration, making Weavers is gonna be a real nightmare considering that Weaver setup tooling for god knows how many parts in production. I suppose there is a couple ways to approach this. The other thing is that I did look up the same source that DEC used for the DL-44 parts GS mineral glass, and I have figured out the threads on the scope, whether they are purely cosmetic is a factor as the scope replica would have none functional Windage knobs, and the lenses would be cosmetic... Lets here it??
Also the Flashider thumb screw is a PITA, I think about how they made it back then, those guys and girls in those factories were hardcore, and quite brilliant. They took the stamped part and folded it.
I am not done with the grill yet, either, looking at the archive photos it needs some refinement. The Actual prop grill is so torn up that it is inconsistent, and the fins appear to be broached. I have my doubts whether or not that part was a heatsink that was extruded for some electronic device long ago, or whether it was cast. I can see it being a extrusion where there were lots of post work done to it. The paint on it tells the story of the propmaker, and it looks like it was hit with some files to give it that layer of weathering that makes it rather beat up. So again, its all in the final stages of whoever is assembling their prop to add those details.
The grill width needs to be reduced,, from one side to the other they almost appear to be 2 completely different parts in the archive photos. One side has radius' where the other doesn't, and the details and dimensions are very different. See Black and white photos, let and right..
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The football style weaver rings: The front one just free floats completely. It doesn't actually touch the barrel at all, best I can tell. There's a couple photos of Ford holding it semi-toward camera in the post production promo shots, and it looks to me like it's just floating in mid-air. Kind of pointless.
The screen weavers: I think there's little to no point remaking these, as people can find them online AND make up their minds on whether they are high, mid, or low rise versions. I THINK the screen used were mid or high... but I've had those and prefer the LOOK of low rise. The high looks goofy to me.
For the scope: I think a see through (read: straight tube) with glass lenses would be fine. Making a functional scope would be WAYYYY too expensive, with real optics. IS there any way to do a cross hair? Even just for bobo goofball purposes?
I would think the Kit should come with:
1. Replica Compac Scope
2. Grill with 11 fins and bolt
3. M9 FH replica
4. Mount parts and hardware (screws are all pretty standard)
5. FH adapter (unless FH replica is made solely for adaptation to MGC and Denix Barrels, and not needed). This might be delrin or somewhat flexy material to accommodate people cutting the barrels in different spots and the difference in Denix vs. MGC barrel widths, etc. ???
The screen weavers: I think there's little to no point remaking these, as people can find them online AND make up their minds on whether they are high, mid, or low rise versions. I THINK the screen used were mid or high... but I've had those and prefer the LOOK of low rise. The high looks goofy to me.
For the scope: I think a see through (read: straight tube) with glass lenses would be fine. Making a functional scope would be WAYYYY too expensive, with real optics. IS there any way to do a cross hair? Even just for bobo goofball purposes?
I would think the Kit should come with:
1. Replica Compac Scope
2. Grill with 11 fins and bolt
3. M9 FH replica
4. Mount parts and hardware (screws are all pretty standard)
5. FH adapter (unless FH replica is made solely for adaptation to MGC and Denix Barrels, and not needed). This might be delrin or somewhat flexy material to accommodate people cutting the barrels in different spots and the difference in Denix vs. MGC barrel widths, etc. ???
SolosHold
Well-Known Member
Yes of course the Mount parts and hardware would be part of the Scope kit portion, I am sorry guys, I failed to be specific I been crushing daylight into the night and getting a little crispy lately.
Let me pay some scrutiny to the Grill, and work out the size of the Lenses. Now please help me out here on the dimensions of the mineral glass for the none functioning scope.
I know you guys went through this with the DEC kit Wetzler Scope. domed w/ flat bottom??? My question is really thickness, 1-2 mm? Please chime in. I will be contacting GS here pretty soon.
The way I have the Knurled windage knob is actually 2 fold, they are Faux and actually hold the Windage Bumpout on the scope tube. the short screws are Faux, and are only 1/8th".
I will break it down asap.
As far as engraving the FLash hider and scope part with Accurate markings??? Lets talk about this..
Also I have a friend that does vinyl graphics, I can talk to them about a cross hair decal that can go on the lense.
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