Glueing stuff to your skin?

[Koda Vonnor]

Anybody have experience with attaching velcro pads right to your skin? I'm thinking it might be the best way to anchor my Rahm Kota shoulder bells.

I tested velcroing them to the tunic and they pull at the neck opening and eventually sag. I tried strapping them to the "V" armor harness that goes over the shoulders and they still sag, pulling the harness down the shoulder a bit. If I velcro the harness to the tunic it'll just pull at the neckline.

I tried some sticky-back velcro to my shoulder, soaked it wet, and left it on all day with no load. Within a few hours it has started to peel off at the edges. The only thing I've seen that sticks when wet are moleskin pads from Dr. Schols.

Any ideas? Is there some kind of glue that would attach a velcro pad to skin, and hold it all day in 90° F heat under a 1+lb load?

~ Koda

 

[hansicle]

There is stuff that I used for prosthetics, it's called Prosaide. It's almost like elmers glue, but it holds like a motha :lol You can order it on line from a few places, and is it ment to go on the skin.

 

[Gigatron]

If the bells are designed to attach to a tunic/shirt/whatever, there may be a better way than gluing them to your arms.

Take a length of material, about 2" wide and a bit longer than your shoulder-shoulder distance. Attach the material to one shoulder bell. Cut a small slit (oh, about 2" long) on either side of the shirt/tunic, at the shoulder. Attach the bell to the shoulder with velcro, pass the strap through the slit and out the other side. Attach the strap to the other bell and attach that bell to the shoulder with velco. Now, you'll have the bells attached to shirt/tunic, but they won't slide or pull away - they'll be pulling against each other and and each bell will keep the other one in place.

Or, you can make armbands out of elestic and attach them to the insides of the bells. Use some velcro at the top the bell to keep it from sliding and the elastic should aleviate the force of gravity and keep it from pulling down and away.

-Fred

 

[Entropy]

Normally, I'd look at creating a good attachment point at the top of the shoulder of the garment worn underneath, but if it isn't specifically designed to support armor, shoulders can be tricky. Heck, shoulders can be tricky anyway. It's no fun to take a blow to the top of the shoulder when your spaulders have rolled.

What's supporting the breastplate and how does it run front and back? Can you post some pics?

 

[Koda Vonnor]

Your idea sounds interesting, Fred.

So I'd basically be making a separate harness for the bells, using a strap that runs from one bell to the other through big "buttonholes" and lays against the skin?

Would the strap go around the back of the neck or the front of the neck? Or could I make a split harness that goes both in front and back of the neck?

Hey I just thought...

If it goes around the back of the neck, and I anchor the front of the jedi tunic to the breastplate at the "V", the weight of the BP should keep the collar tight against the back of the neck and keep the neckline from pulling open laterally.

Maybe too I could just reinforce the skin-side of the tunic along that line making a virtual cross-strap harness.

One idea leads to another. Thanks Gig!

 

[Koda Vonnor]

...What's supporting the breastplate and how does it run front and back? Can you post some pics?

I can try.

My plans for the soft parts layers are as follows:

- UnderArmor type HeatGear tight black crew-neck t-shirt
- Semi fitted brown poly-cotton crinkle calcutta v-neck jedi tunic (very strong fabric - used it for Kyle Katarn shirt)

- Heavy stretch denim "V" straps anchored to the pants middle back waistband, running up over the shoulders (possibly anchored at top of shoulders) and straight down the sides of the BP in front, anchored inside front waistband of pants. BP velcroed to these straps at the center sides.

- Tabards wool flannel velcroed to front ctr of belt.
- Capes same wool flannel pleated from shoulder-top to BP - possibly velcroed to underside of BP top-left and top-right, or continued down to attach to tabards -also possibly anchored at top of shoulders (will be determined by test fitting)

So the BP would be attached to the "suspenders" harness at the middle sides, attached to the V-neck cross point of the tunic, and would have one or two hidden elastic straps going around the back through Fred's buttonholes (thx gig) and possibly a broad-strap anchor to the belt at the bottom.

~ Bill C.

 

[Gigatron]

Your idea sounds interesting, Fred.

So I'd basically be making a separate harness for the bells, using a strap that runs from one bell to the other through big "buttonholes" and lays against the skin?

Would the strap go around the back of the neck or the front of the neck? Or could I make a split harness that goes both in front and back of the neck?

Hey I just thought...

If it goes around the back of the neck, and I anchor the front of the jedi tunic to the breastplate at the "V", the weight of the BP should keep the collar tight against the back of the neck and keep the neckline from pulling open laterally.

Maybe too I could just reinforce the skin-side of the tunic along that line making a virtual cross-strap harness.

One idea leads to another. Thanks Gig!

No problem, Koda - always glad to lend an idea when I can. Glad to see it led to another path of ideas .


-Fred

 

[Cooter Davis]

Use those rare earth magnets. Secure them to your tunic and then to your shoulder piece, and it will never fall off.

 

[OldKen]

Use those rare earth magnets. Secure them to your tunic and then to your shoulder piece, and it will never fall off.

I think hes more worried about the cloth sagging from the weight than he is about them actually falling off the costume.

I would think that if TKs can make a strap system to hold everything perfect while maintaining mobility, the same could be done here...

maybe even a suspender type setup with straps that circle around your body connected to the suspenders front and back between chest and sholder height if you take my meaning... Basically a belt out of fabric above your chest then you could have straps over your shouldersto keep it from sagging, I wish I knew how to do computer renderings so I could draw what im thinking! :confused

You could add snaps valcro or magnets and attatch though the tunic like Gig suggested.

Either way I really love this design and wish GL would have went this direction with the PT. :sleep

Cant wait to see what you come up with!!! :cool