Ghostbusters: Afterlife

Unrelated to the discussion at hand... I see it mentioned in the media that Ghostbusters is a kids/family film. I NEVER got that. I saw the film as a teenager and it always seemed like an adult film (not in the NC-17 variety of course). We enjoyed Afterlife and saw it twice in the theater.

And I'm sure I'll catch hell for this, but I also "enjoyed" 2016's version. No, NOT as much as the first 2 films, or this one, but it did have some moments that made me laugh. It also had some (read: a LOT) of unnecessary low brow humor so... *shrugs* They could have made the film in the same universe, but they didn't and that was the major issue "I" had with it. I rank it as #5 on the GB scale, with everything + the video game, coming out ahead of it. :)

There's so much supernatural/ghost lore material out there, they should be able to pull a sequel out to Afterlife without rehashing Ghostbusters II or anything. :)
 
Lightning said:
No this time they actually got Gozer in the traps, not sent back to the original dimension. So if they do Gozer again (they won't) then it has to happen differently.
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Fair enough. I checked out of the movie at about the halfway point and by the time Gozer showed up I wasn't paying very close attention.
 
Saw someone mention elsewhere that the mini-pufts are not just a random insert. The chosen destructor is still in effect. It just manifested differently this time after Gozer awakened. Maybe because of not being on the building with the special metal or something else. Either way that helped make a bit more sense of their appearance.
 
Unrelated to the discussion at hand... I see it mentioned in the media that Ghostbusters is a kids/family film. I NEVER got that. I saw the film as a teenager and it always seemed like an adult film (not in the NC-17 variety of course). We enjoyed Afterlife and saw it twice in the theater.
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IMO the cartoon show & toys did a lot to push the franchise into the kid-friendly category, at least in people's minds. The original movie doesn't really lean that direction.


GB was more affected by its cartoon spinoff than most franchises are. The original 1984 movie portrayed them as bumbling incompetents, to put it bluntly. They are only lovable because of the cast & humor. The cartoon show put a more classic-hero spin on them.

The second movie was showing that effect. It had a less rowdy SNL tone. They weren't smoking cigarettes and torturing grad students anymore.
 
robn1 said:
In the next film the traps will get shut off, and they will release be a bunch of little Gozers.
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Or, maybe, Gozer's dead. I mean... What's not to say that being pulled apart by the traps basically results in the death of a Sumerian God? Maybe pulling her into the traps may have also depowered her permanently by disconnecting her from her realm and/or source of her powers. Of course, I could be wrong. I guess part of me doesn't want Egon's sacrifice to have been for nothing.
 
Anyone else think the 12 year old girl was too much of a Mary Sue? I mean when it was revealed that she rewired the electricity to do experiments, I was immediately reminded of the "I bypassed the compressor!" scene in TFA.
 
kalkamel said:
Anyone else think the 12 year old girl was too much of a Mary Sue? I mean when it was revealed that she rewired the electricity to do experiments, I was immediately reminded of the "I bypassed the compressor!" scene in TFA.
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Not at all. plus her DIY 220 circuit (if I understood what she was doing correctly) didn't actually work right.
 
kalkamel said:
Anyone else think the 12 year old girl was too much of a Mary Sue? I mean when it was revealed that she rewired the electricity to do experiments, I was immediately reminded of the "I bypassed the compressor!" scene in TFA.
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No. Because she has flaws. Namely her inability to socialize with people outside of her family. In addition to what was pointed out by Psab and Lightning, she's a nerd, as in someone who has particular knowledge in an area of interest. Nothing comes completely natural to her (as we see with the wiring scene, as well as her attempts to tell jokes). She's grounded in reality. And more importantly, she overcomes her biggest flaw, which is to open herself up to find friends (and she ends up getting the remaining Ghostbusters as friends, in addition to Podcast and Lucky via her brother, as well as Greg via her school and mom). Rey has none of that. She instantly knows how to use the Force just after being told that it exists (Luke had to learn a little bit about how to use it from Obi-wan). She shows perfection in her abilities and without flaw (Phoebe shows she has some skills and isn't exactly perfect at them). If anything, Phoebe is more like Luke Skywalker in A New Hope than she is as Rey in the Disney Sequel Trainwreck. And, more importantly, she has a character arc, while Rey is basically the same all the way through. Phoebe has more development in one film than Rey does in a trilogy of films.
 
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