Fringe shape changing box

True, but if something is made from a found item, once it's found, if becomes common knowledge in the community. Like the Graflex, MPP, etc. And there will always be those that have to have the real thing. There are a lot of great replicas of Graflex's out there, but for some, nothing will do, but a real one.

I love found props, even the hard to find ones. This may not be one at all, but if it is, then I'm all for finding the real found item.
 
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This one that Peter picks up and examines looks like a 1591 Series project box by Hammond Mfg. They come in black, white, crystal clear and transparent blue.

The top looks a bit different though...

Hammond Mfg. - Small Enclosure Index
 
True, but if something is made from a found item, once it's found, if becomes common knowledge in the community. Like the Graflex, MPP, etc. And there will always be those that have to have the real thing. There are a lot of great replicas of Graflex's out there, but for some, nothing will do, but a real one.

I love found props, even the hard to find ones. This may not be one at all, but if it is, then I'm all for finding the real found item.


I understand that. I'm just saying, there seems to be this misconception in the replica prop community that, "Oh, they would never make that when they could just go find something." when, at least at our shop, that RARELY happens.
 
I'm not trying to shoot down that it might be a found item, I'm just raising the possibility it was made.

It may even be a box for something ELSE. Like a watch. That happens some times.
 
Oh, yeah, I never said that "they" don't make props from scratch for TV and movie, we all konw they do. Even items they could have easilly bout already made, some times they make there own. If that ends up being the case here, that is totlay cool, but if it is a found item, then that is cool too. (and for some of us, it would be easier to mod out hte found item then to make our own)
 
You would be surprised. We make things like that all the time. Much easier and faster to just make something to specifications than it is to find something ready-made.

I'm not saying you aren't right They may well have made the boxes and if they have the tools to do it, it might be pretty easy. am a real amateur at this stuff and I have no 3D milling capability and limited tools at my disposal, so if there is any chance it's a found item I'd like to find it.
 
I'm not trying to shoot down that it might be a found item, I'm just raising the possibility it was made.

No worries and I had actually considered that too. I am happy to listen to any kind of suggestion that might help me find/make one. In fact if you have some hints about how to make a sturdy box with a lid and window using everyday tools, that would be fantastic. I just figured that they likely only made a couple of them and might've just used a found item.

It may even be a box for something ELSE. Like a watch. That happens some times.

Yeah I had noted it could be a watch or lighter presentation/display box of some kind. It was this kind of vague hope that led to me thinking one just might be able to find it.
 
This one that Peter picks up and examines looks like a 1591 Series project box by Hammond Mfg. They come in black, white, crystal clear and transparent blue.

The top looks a bit different though...

Hammond Mfg. - Small Enclosure Index

Believe me I have considered it and literally looked at hundreds of "project boxes" and none of them is quite right. The way the lid fits is totally different and it has curved edges on two sides and right angled edges on the other two.
 
Well, I'm a major supporter of the idea of this being a found object.

However, you don't need fancy equipment to do this, if you did make one. (Just a lot more paciance then I have.)

I personally have never done it (yet) but a lot of folks around here have done amazing things with sheet plastics. (like styrene) You get a sheet the correct thickness. You would just make up some templates on your computer. (that part is really easy. Print them out, on plain old printer paper., and spray glue them on the plastic. (spay glue isn't very strong, so you can peel the paper off later. Let the glue set for a minute or two before you put the template on though, so there is no chance that the glue will hold it too strongly.)

You can cut them out with a good part of sizzers (sorry don't know how to spell that. :lol), or a carpet knife, or heavy duty exacto Knife. Or dremel, if your really steady handed.

U can use cut Styrene tubes if the hinges are visabule. (they make them in all kinds of shapers, and sizes.)

Then just very carefully glue it all together. If you use a thin enough styrene, it should go around the curved corners, very easily, if you use a thicker kind you might need to put it in the sun for a wile, or use a heat gun. (you can get a heat gun, at a hobby store like "Michel's". They are cheep, and good to have around.)

Sand, and fill in any gaps, or imperfections, prime, and paint it.

People do this kind of thing around here all the time, and you don't need anyting that a kid wouldn't have in there craft box, and it really can come out very sturdy, and look quite nice.

And you can order the sheet plastic, on line, or at any kind of hobby shop. (look in hobby shops that sell Models, not the ones like "Hobby lobby", or "Mickel's")

It really is quite easy, and cheep. (I'm just half bind, lazy, cheep, and not very talented that is way I don't usually do it, but I have some projects coming up that I'll have no choice but to do it.)

Though like you, I would rather just find one.
 
I have styrene sheet that I bought a while ago to make the box if I had to. I've never used the stuff before and it seems a bit soft to me. I'd rather make it from something more rigid. I've only ever worked with the polystyrene of model kits. I don't even know the best kind of glue to use for styrene sheet.

Soft means easy to cut with a very sharp craft knife but also to my mind not as strong/rigid.

I'd even use a couple of electronic project boxes except I have never found any with perpendicular sides. They all seem sloped slightly.
 
3mm thick styrene sheet is very rigid, and at the size your box would be, it should be pretty sturdy.
There are two methods I would use to make this:

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For option 1, I would glue extra vertical and horizontal strips where the sides glue to the lids.

As for glue, any Styrene cement would be ideal. Don't use a cyanoacrylate or super glue, they dont fuse the styrene pieces together.

Good luck
Jamie

I have styrene sheet that I bought a while ago to make the box if I had to. I've never used the stuff before and it seems a bit soft to me. I'd rather make it from something more rigid. I've only ever worked with the polystyrene of model kits. I don't even know the best kind of glue to use for styrene sheet.

Soft means easy to cut with a very sharp craft knife but also to my mind not as strong/rigid.

I'd even use a couple of electronic project boxes except I have never found any with perpendicular sides. They all seem sloped slightly.
 
I was planning to go with 2.5mm or 3mm sheet reinforced where all edges meet and a second internal wall that the lid section would fit over to keep it perfectly flush and rigid.

It will really only ever be viewed with the lid on.

How easy easy is it to do a neat radius bend in 3mm styrene? If you notice the front and back edges of the top and bottom are curved not right angles. I suppose I could get a similar result by building up and filling the inner edges and sanding/filing the radius on the outer sides.

Never having worked with the stuff I think some trial and error is needed.


3mm thick styrene sheet is very rigid, and at the size your box would be, it should be pretty sturdy.

For option 1, I would glue extra vertical and horizontal strips where the sides glue to the lids.

As for glue, any Styrene cement would be ideal. Don't use a cyanoacrylate or super glue, they dont fuse the styrene pieces together.

Good luck
Jamie
 
Man this looks like a project I would be interested in trying to build also. I just love Fringe, it's my favorite show on TV now. I should look back and see if there is any other props that would be cool to make.
 
Man this looks like a project I would be interested in trying to build also. I just love Fringe, it's my favorite show on TV now. I should look back and see if there is any other props that would be cool to make.

In the last few episodes of season 2 of Fringe there are several interesting props from the alternate universe that might be nice to make. There is a handheld scanner and a small device used for "sealing off" unstable areas to stop them shifting universes.

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The thing about most of the stuff from "our" side that Walter uses or makes is that most of it is 30 year old technology from Walter's old lab and is really just off the shelf lab equipment. Also it tends to be fairly large stuff. Though there might be stuff that one sees snippets of in the Massive Dynamic building.

There is is always Walter's cow "Gene". LOL
 
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There was a pretty good shot of one of thesein this weeks episode. (I can't get screen caps of it, but maybe someone else could. ;) )

I really wish I could find a place with the switch covers, that takes something other the credit cards. :( I don't have a credit card (best way to stay out of trouble) and I don't think the sight posted earlier in this thread will take any thing but credit cards. :(
 
Just wanted to point out that the episode from this week "Do Shapeshifters Dream of Electric Sheep?" S304 had a few close ups as well. Sorry, I don't have any caps, just a heads up to those who might have the ep available to screencap.
 
Just wanted to point out that the episode from this week "Do Shapeshifters Dream of Electric Sheep?" S304 had a few close ups as well. Sorry, I don't have any caps, just a heads up to those who might have the ep available to screencap.

:lol I said the same things a few posts up. :)

But I didn't know the title of this weeks episode. Great title. For those that don't know the book that Bladerunner was based on was called something like "Do androids dream of Electric sheep." (or something like that.)
 
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