FAKE Jackal on sale in the UK!

[Mutant-Enemy]

Here's a heads up for anyone in the UK that might be eye-balling this auction!
Not only do the UK Laws forbid the sale of knives there, this one is a FAKE!
And the seller even has the nerve to list it as screen used!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/buffy-Prop-sea...item3cb17c936b

The seller doesn't give the dimensions of the knife in the description area (First Clue)
The signature on the blade is on the WRONG side and is too short (SECOND Clue)
A border edge appears at the finger guard level that doesn't exist on the real thing (THIRD Clue)
The coloring on the handle is GOLD which is all wrong, it should be two shades of brown (FOURTH Clue)

I feel sorry for the fellow thats bid on it, I wish he could be informed as well.

 

[Contec]

the same model (the original) was used in startrek Nemesis as shinzons dagger.

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

Thanks Con...yup...I should have added a link to my page about "FOUND" knives from Buffy...the Star-Trek note is in there as well:
Various "FOUND" Knives used on Buffy

I reported this auction to the UK E-Bay People. It clearly goes against their rules.

 

[Angelus Lupus]

Yeah, I have one of these that I got because it was so much cheaper than the original. (Bought before the law changed and mine wasn't being passed off as a Jackal) It's actually called Wolf and, on mine at least, isn't well put together (the handle is loose). But for a 'close enough' sitting on the shelf, it's ok.

Edit: I just looked at mine. That 'signature' is where it says stainless steel. On the other side it says 'China'

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

OK...so pretty clearly what we're looking at in that auction is the OTHER Chinese knock-off of the Jackal.
What's the length on that Angelus?
Great pics...mind if I use them on my informational page?

 

[Asp9mm]

UK laws don't forbid the sale of knives here at all, that is incorrect. Quite the opposite, we can own any knife except autos, gravity knives and balisongs. Ebay UK doesn't allow UK buyers to buy or sell knives within the UK, but it does allow us to sell knives outside the UK. I wish people could get that right.

 

[Angelus Lupus]

The length is 30cm from the tip of the blade to the end of the pommel. Feel free to use those pics, and these:

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

Thanks Angelus!
Asp- I was going off of these posted rules:

Here are the UK E-Bay Rules concerning Knives:
Knives
Knives are not permitted for sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie with limited exceptions outlined below.

Allowed
Dining cutlery sets that include knives used for eating
Letter openers
Razor blades and surgical blades
Tools such as chisels, axes, saws and hoof trimming tools

Not allowed
Items that are not allowed included, but are not limited to:

Disguised knives such as belt buckle knives, lipstick case knives,
air gauge knives and writing pen knives.
Swords
Martial arts blunt training knives
Multi-tool knives and craft knives
Pocket knives, folding knives and clasp knives
Push daggers
Sharp kitchen knives (as in pair blocks), cake knives, carving
knives, pairing knives, oyster knives and electric knives.
Stealth, throwing, ballistic, grivory and rubber knives, Swiss
Army knives, Stanley knives and Leather-mans
Switchblade, spring-blade knives, snap-blade knives, gravity
knives, stiletto knives and butterfly knives


Heads up gents!
The auction was PULLED! BUT has now been re-listed without photos...I think that is what is referred to as DODGY in the UK:
Buffy prop season 3 original with COA on eBay (end time 14-Oct-10 00:03:55 BST)

 

[rollerboi]

Pff, report it again. They'll have a record of the pulled auction.

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

Done!
The guy is pretty blatently flaunting his contempt for the posting rules.

 

[defstartrooper]

This listing (260675769195) has been removed, or this item is not available.

Pulled

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

Thats the old one.
The new one has not been pulled yet but i have no doubt it will be.

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

The new auction has just been pulled as well.
I contacted the seller and requested a pic of the COA, here's what she sent me:

I know it's small but it has Mark Taliani's Name on it and I'm fairly certain he never signed any COA's while president of WB.
Anyway, the knife was the same as the one in the other auction of her's that was pulled...a cheap Chinese Knock-off.
Absolutely NOT screen used but the "stainless Steel" stamped on one side tells you that!
Anyone know some more of the specifics on COA's that were distributed or not by the WB and or anyone else?
I know that the earliest ones were issued by The Lange Family but I'm curious about specifics...
I have an e-mail in to Mark though so I should know more soon.
Alway's go to the Horses Mouth when you can!

 

[Qui-Gonzalez]

Thanks Angelus!
Asp- I was going off of these posted rules:

Here are the UK E-Bay Rules concerning Knives:
Knives
Knives are not permitted for sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie with limited exceptions outlined below.

Allowed
Dining cutlery sets that include knives used for eating
Letter openers
Razor blades and surgical blades
Tools such as chisels, axes, saws and hoof trimming tools

Not allowed
Items that are not allowed included, but are not limited to:

Disguised knives such as belt buckle knives, lipstick case knives,
air gauge knives and writing pen knives.
Swords
Martial arts blunt training knives
Multi-tool knives and craft knives
Pocket knives, folding knives and clasp knives
Push daggers
Sharp kitchen knives (as in pair blocks), cake knives, carving
knives, pairing knives, oyster knives and electric knives.
Stealth, throwing, ballistic, grivory and rubber knives, Swiss
Army knives, Stanley knives and Leather-mans
Switchblade, spring-blade knives, snap-blade knives, gravity
knives, stiletto knives and butterfly knives


Heads up gents!
The auction was PULLED! BUT has now been re-listed without photos...I think that is what is referred to as DODGY in the UK:
Buffy prop season 3 original with COA on eBay (end time 14-Oct-10 00:03:55 BST)

Good lord, do they let you buy ANYTHING from eBay?

 

[Asp9mm]

Good lord, do they let you buy ANYTHING from eBay?

No, it's disgusting. Our knife laws here are pretty relaxed. Ebays stance on banning sales and selling of knives and multi tools is actually violating EU Human Rights laws. Not only that, but because people take Ebays knife restrictions as that of the UK knife law, many US and other overseas sellers have stopped sales to the UK on their own sites not affiliated with Ebay because they think it is illegal. It isn't. ALL knives are legal here except autos, gravity, push daggers and balisongs.

Sorry to go OT, but it's annoying.

 

[Mutant-Enemy]

And it doesn't really apply in this instance though it did help to get the auction removed...twice.
My main concern here was the woman advertising an obvious fake as "screen used". While the learned Buffy enthusiast could have spotted the ruse, the less suspecting may have thought they'd found a deal.
Then the lady goes and re-list's it without the photo and without the info...which is still incredibly shady.
I here ya, your pissed about misconceptions leading to limited sale's of knives and such in your country. Sounds like you need to work on getting E-bay's restrictions in the UK lifted...
Although, I gotta tell you, it was a friend in Scotland who gave me the heads up on these auctions and she seems to think those restrictions are in place with good reason, so it may simply be a matter of differing opinions...?
I was just happy to be able to help out a friend.