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I don’t care for the LOTR films. I saw the first at a theater and was bored. Many years later, I decided to watch the second because people kept talking about how great they were. It was an excruciating experience. I could never muster up the desire to watch the third.
Bonus material. The best part of all of the lord of the rings material is Weta's making-of volumes. An RPFer's art/craft training montage dream come true. It's pro level training for the cost of one movie. Akin to watching deep documentaries on Ralph Mcquarry or Industrial light and magic. But I own all additional disc sets so possibly might have an overblown view of what is on one only.
 
It's also interesting to note how Dave's ideas on Anakin's fate and the Jedi do not align with what George has said on the subject. Like when Dave captivated everyone about his explanation about the Duel of the Fates, and how when Qui-Gon died that sealed Anakin's fate. But George says Anakin was responsible for his own fate.

There's a lot of fans (including myself at one time) who think we're still getting George's "vision" through Dave. But we aren't. From the Jedi to the Mandalorians, make no mistake, what we are seeing, is Dave's vision of Star Wars, not George's.
Yep, Dave talks like he’s the keeper of the holy texts, but I can clearly see that he is a hack

....& I've been saying it for years:
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I never got into Blade Runner. It's not a bad film by any stretch, but it never grabbed me either. When it comes to Ridley Scott, Legend was a far more interesting and entertaining movie. Tim Curry's performance is one of his absolute stand outs.
Right? Tim was perfect as Darkness, and the entire movie just flowed so well. Not to mention the soundtrack fit perfectly. :D
 
Right? Tim was perfect as Darkness, and the entire movie just flowed so well. Not to mention the soundtrack fit perfectly. :D

I know a lot of people love the Jerry Goldsmith's score (and it's good) but the Tangerine Dream score is on a whole other level. In fact I prefer the American cut of the film too. The director's cut isn't as good in my estimation. I get what they were going for with it, but the American cut I feel is much stronger, where the director's cut feels very corny.
 
I know a lot of people love the Jerry Goldsmith's score (and it's good) but the Tangerine Dream score is on a whole other level. In fact I prefer the American cut of the film too. The director's cut isn't as good in my estimation. I get what they were going for with it, but the American cut I feel is much stronger, where the director's cut feels very corny.
I loved Tangerine Dream's score to it! As for the "Director's cut", I think sometimes the Director wants to expand on what was delivered with the things that were left out (due to time constraints and what not), and others they feel intimidated by what else came out since and want to "polish up" something they had been proud of. I can understand the feeling in both cases, but in the second (IMO really on all of this), there was nothing needed to be polished about their original work.
 
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I loved Tangerine Dream's score to it! As for the "Director's cut", I think sometimes the Director wants to expand on what was delivered with the thigns that were left out (due to time constraints and what not), and others they feel intimidated by what else came out since and want to "polish up" something they had been proud of. I can understand the feeling in both cases, but in the second (IMO really on all of this), there was nothing needed to be polished about their original work.
Not to derail an excellent point...but the typo on "things" as "thigns" was redyslexified by my brain to read "thighs" so I was really stuck wondering whose thighs were left out and by the time I read the whole post it was really just jettisoning off onto the wrong path. I was dazed "Pengbuzz doesn't usually talk like this". And reread it, found the typo my brain errored on fixing and reread the post with "things" instead of "thighs".... and now we're back in the game.
 
Yep, Dave talks like he’s the keeper of the holy texts, but I can clearly see that he is a hack

....& I've been saying it for years:
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I also hate that he's got people thinking he's some huge fan of the EU and respects it. The guy is the author of just as many if not more EU retcons then George. Like right out of the gate, it was his and Henry Gilroy's idea to have Anakin knighted right after Geonosis. Which absolutely destroys the original Clone Wars timeline. Where Anakin was knighted a mere 6 months before Episode III.
 
Not to derail an excellent point...but the typo on "things" as "thigns" was redyslexified by my brain to read "thighs" so I was really stuck wondering whose thighs were left out and by the time I read the whole post it was really just jettisoning off onto the wrong path. I was dazed "Pengbuzz doesn't usually talk like this". And reread it, found the typo my brain errored on fixing and reread the post with "things" instead of "thighs".... and now we're back in the game.
ROFL!!!

Well, my keyboard and I usually have this battle of the wills every time I post! :lol:
 
I prefer the original version of Legend - perhaps because I grew up with it. I found the US version to be confusing at times, but had scenes in it I wished was in the original version, and then it has cut things out, that I feel are important to the story, which I find to be weird edits.
 
While Legend came out during a glut of low quality sword and sorcery pictures it was made with such talent that it puts a lot of modern fantasy films to shame. In fact the cinematography is still some of the most visually arresting I've ever seen in any movie, regardless of genre.

I grew up on the US cut, so I am partial to it.
 
I know a lot of people love the Jerry Goldsmith's score (and it's good) but the Tangerine Dream score is on a whole other level. In fact I prefer the American cut of the film too. The director's cut isn't as good in my estimation. I get what they were going for with it, but the American cut I feel is much stronger, where the director's cut feels very corny.
About a year or two ago, I wanted to purchase the Tangerine Dream score only to find out it's been long out of print and going for crazy prices. I've since picked up the Goldsmith score but I'm hoping the TD score gets reissued eventually.
 
Event Horizon is not scary at all. It's not even a good movie.

I think it's okay. It's definitely more creepy than scary. Apparently there was a lot of footage that was removed because it was too gory and too sexual in order to get a R rating. Fans have been trying to find that cut footage for a while, but people involved with the movie think it might have been lost.
 
About a year or two ago, I wanted to purchase the Tangerine Dream score only to find out it's been long out of print and going for crazy prices. I've since picked up the Goldsmith score but I'm hoping the TD score gets reissued eventually.
Is 19 bucks buy it now too much?

 
I think it's okay. It's definitely more creepy than scary. Apparently there was a lot of footage that was removed because it was too gory and too sexual in order to get a R rating. Fans have been trying to find that cut footage for a while, but people involved with the movie think it might have been lost.
On the commentary track they say it is definitively gone. If I remember correctly.

I find the movie a little cheesy. WC Anderson just doesn't know how to built tension and suspense. A more competent director could have gotten the eerie creepiness out of it it deserved.
 
Event Horizon -

When it came out I didn't like it.

After revisiting it years later, I give them credit for trying a fresh idea & taking some interesting risks. But I still don't think it came out very well.
 
Ok, I'll play, too. Here's a few for ya.

1. TLJ sucks. No, it doesn't. It's a fantastic film with a ton of interesting messages in it. However, as a sequel to TFA and as the middle chapter between TFA and TROS, it's really, really out of place. It didn't have to be, though. That film threw down the gauntlet and challenged the people in charge of the franchise to think bigger than just reiterating what's been done before. But they chickened out and went with recycled plots, and we got TROS. TLJ was great because it laughs and tells you that all the build-up that JJ Abrams created in TFA was a bunch of meaningless chicanery with no soul. TLJ purposefully broke down all the conventions of Star Wars films and cleared the ground to start again with something new, stylistically, structurally, and even in-universe for the characters. It was incredibly ambitious, but the producers flinched in the wake of irate fans who want their heroes preserved in amber

2. TROS sucks. I mean....not exactly. TROS was a rushed, slapped together rollercoaster ride...but it would've worked better if it had been the capstone to an entire trilogy of JJ Abrams films. I don't think I'd have liked them, but they'd have held together a hell of a lot better as a trilogy. TFA is a roller-coaster, too, which made sense as the re-launch of the franchise, but it fell victim to the whole "mystery box" nonsense that propels a lot of Abrams' material. But those two films -- if connected by a similar middle roller-coaster film -- would've "worked" as sequels better than the stylistic and narrative whipsawing we get with TLJ in the middle.

3. More is better. No, it isn't. More is just more. And much of the time, more is worse. Stories should have endings and not go on forever. Settings can go on forever, though. That's how franchises should be handled. They aren't the continuing stories of XYZ set of characters; they're settings within which you can tell tons of different stories. And if they can't work as a setting, because they're too focused on a character? Then don't turn them into a franchise. I mean, I love me some Bond films, and can find things to enjoy in all of them (yes, even Moonraker), but they are the perfect embodiment of a franchise being more of a "setting" than a character. You can make Bond a character, but then his story needs an end. (Which it seems we've come to with the latest one, and I'm fine with.)

4. The Star Wars EU was good. No it ****ing wasn't, and it didn't deserve to be preserved. It was, by and large, garbage. The initial Zahn trilogy was great and captured the vibe of the films. The Rogue Squadron books were decent, too. Beyond that? Pretty much just crap, at least up to when I stepped off that merry-go-round. The books were really never good. You just liked them because you were 14 and your taste was crap back then, and you were just happy for "more of the same" and because they were all the Star Wars that you could get back then. Because that's really all those books were, for the most part: more of the same. It's fine. You don't have to feel bad about it. My tastes were crap then, too, and I gobbled that stuff up. But in hindsight? It was crap. The best part about it wasn't the stories, but rather the setting and worldbuilding, and the vast bulk of that had nothing to do with the novels at all, but rather with the good people at West End Games going all the way back to 1987.

5. DS9 is better than Babylon 5. Hahahahaha, no. No, it very much isn't. Babylon 5 is an actual story and is a monumental achievement in television history, having been written almost entirely by one guy who remained showrunner for it's entire 5-season run. DS9 doesn't grow a story until about 3/4 of the way in. It's fine for Star Trek, and better than some other Trek stuff, but it was in no way better than B5.
 
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