Doc's foam/fiberglass work + Mark 42 painted pieces
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Darth Vapor
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
Help Doc, or anyone...
Was super excited to get paint on my suit and now I'm super stressed. I followed your steps, heat sealed twice, multiple coats of mod podge, plasti dip, adhesion promoter and primer. Laid down the first coat of paint and it looked shiny and metallic. Pumped right? Well it dried matte and pink. Second coat of paint, same thing.
Is it because it is not sealed properly? The red plasti dip was shiny, the primer laid down just fine. I'm lost and down four cans of Dupliolor Dark Cherry Metallic Red.
What can I do to salvage my build?
Help Doc, or anyone...
Was super excited to get paint on my suit and now I'm super stressed. I followed your steps, heat sealed twice, multiple coats of mod podge, plasti dip, adhesion promoter and primer. Laid down the first coat of paint and it looked shiny and metallic. Pumped right? Well it dried matte and pink. Second coat of paint, same thing.
Is it because it is not sealed properly? The red plasti dip was shiny, the primer laid down just fine. I'm lost and down four cans of Dupliolor Dark Cherry Metallic Red.
What can I do to salvage my build?
Darth Vapor
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
Update...the second coat dried a darker red, not pink. But very matte, no metallic...
Update...the second coat dried a darker red, not pink. But very matte, no metallic...
docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
Its gonna be matte until ya put a clear on, duplicolor clear is really good also building your gloves should ship by fri, sat da latest
Its gonna be matte until ya put a clear on, duplicolor clear is really good also building your gloves should ship by fri, sat da latest
Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
Any updates on the write-up for the faceplate? Trying to get my suit finished up and would love to have a removable faceplate in time for Halloween.
Here's a pic of what I have so far. Helmet was done with 6mm "Foamies".
Any updates on the write-up for the faceplate? Trying to get my suit finished up and would love to have a removable faceplate in time for Halloween.
Here's a pic of what I have so far. Helmet was done with 6mm "Foamies".
Darth Vapor
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
Thanks for the update on the gloves do what u can to ship by Friday. I need as much time to figure out the gloves as possible. Working all weekend on my girlfriends costume.
I'll lay down one or two more coats of red tonite and clear and see how it looks. Hopefully it turns out. I just don't see the metallic like in your photos. Maybe the clear will bring it out. Fingers crossed.
Thanks for the update on the gloves
do what u can to ship by Friday. I need as much time to figure out the gloves as possible. Working all weekend on my girlfriends costume. I'll lay down one or two more coats of red tonite and clear and see how it looks. Hopefully it turns out. I just don't see the metallic like in your photos. Maybe the clear will bring it out. Fingers crossed.
docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
still workin on it as well as a million different things lol but soon and hey suit looks very cool
it should work but you said it looked pink? hmm..thats weird let me know how it looks after the clear
Any updates on the write-up for the faceplate? Trying to get my suit finished up and would love to have a removable faceplate in time for Halloween.
Here's a pic of what I have so far. Helmet was done with 6mm "Foamies".
still workin on it as well as a million different things lol but soon and hey suit looks very cool
Thanks for the update on the gloves
I'll lay down one or two more coats of red tonite and clear and see how it looks. Hopefully it turns out. I just don't see the metallic like in your photos. Maybe the clear will bring it out. Fingers crossed.
it should work but you said it looked pink? hmm..thats weird let me know how it looks after the clear
torx
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
looking forward to the open faceplate for foam helmet. mine is 6mm eva foamie as well as opposed to my original that was 3mm
so far ive only gotten the outer resined and fiberglassed. inside, resined once, no fiberglass. its rock hard on the outside. i know its not what alot of people do, but i can dremel details well and build up detail with bondo hopefully. but im worried once i sand, bondo, and cut it'll crack or lose its rigidness. i got two weeks. if this helmet fails imma have to go paper/resin/fiberglass real quick. before halloween.
looking forward to the open faceplate for foam helmet. mine is 6mm eva foamie as well as opposed to my original that was 3mm
so far ive only gotten the outer resined and fiberglassed. inside, resined once, no fiberglass. its rock hard on the outside. i know its not what alot of people do, but i can dremel details well and build up detail with bondo hopefully. but im worried once i sand, bondo, and cut it'll crack or lose its rigidness. i got two weeks. if this helmet fails imma have to go paper/resin/fiberglass real quick. before halloween.
Darth Vapor
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
The fluorescent lights made it look more pink. In natural light is was still very blah, not pink but not red. But, as soon as applied the clear it got deep red and the metallic came out. Looks great now. Looks hard coated.
It does however crack if you really flex it. I'm not too worried. First suit, thrown a lot more bucks than planned, but I just want to look cool and have fun 6th Street downtown Austin Halloween weekend.
I can figure out and master the process on my next build. Thanks for the help Doc, can't wait to work on the gloves.
The fluorescent lights made it look more pink. In natural light is was still very blah, not pink but not red. But, as soon as applied the clear it got deep red and the metallic came out. Looks great now. Looks hard coated.
It does however crack if you really flex it. I'm not too worried. First suit, thrown a lot more bucks than planned, but I just want to look cool and have fun 6th Street downtown Austin Halloween weekend.
I can figure out and master the process on my next build. Thanks for the help Doc, can't wait to work on the gloves.
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docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
I switched to this, Its the best metallic red ive tried yet. Its retro red and has metal flake so it might be a bit spendier but a can goes a long way and man it sure looks pretty:lol
I switched to this, Its the best metallic red ive tried yet. Its retro red and has metal flake so it might be a bit spendier but a can goes a long way and man it sure looks pretty:lol
BaseZero
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I'm using Dark Cherry metallic by Duplicolor and it's spot on for the Mark IV suit.
Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
Hey, thanks again for the great idea. I did a couple test with a layer of thin cardboard and with a layer of cardstock and they both work great. I did however prefer the card stock, it does seem a little bit harder when it dries. Took a pic for reference.
STEALTH
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
I didn't want to use my precious cardstock for that. lol
It's actally better because you can maniuplate it more into creases.
but I'm glad the trick worked. :thumbsup
I didn't want to use my precious cardstock for that. lol
It's actally better because you can maniuplate it more into creases.
but I'm glad the trick worked. :thumbsup
torx
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
is this the upcoming method for foam faceplate rigidity? cardstock/paper, resin, fiberglass on top of foam?
also, do you have a recommendation for the color silver/aluminum for parts of the mkvii like the shoulders of the back, and front of the shins? thanks
is this the upcoming method for foam faceplate rigidity? cardstock/paper, resin, fiberglass on top of foam?
also, do you have a recommendation for the color silver/aluminum for parts of the mkvii like the shoulders of the back, and front of the shins? thanks
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docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
No i dnt do that way, thats stealth's and dms's method. I was gnna try to do have open faceplate with out rondo to see if it can be done without losing its shape and close flush but id have to do what these guys are trying with the fiberglass but I dont want to do that. I want to keep the inside soft and comfy. But it worked for them :thumbsup So Im still gnna have an open faceplate but Im a stick to what I do best and rondo it up. Put first coat and tomorrow 1 more coat then smooth and cut faceplate out. Will post pics soon
No i dnt do that way, thats stealth's and dms's method. I was gnna try to do have open faceplate with out rondo to see if it can be done without losing its shape and close flush but id have to do what these guys are trying with the fiberglass but I dont want to do that. I want to keep the inside soft and comfy. But it worked for them :thumbsup So Im still gnna have an open faceplate but Im a stick to what I do best and rondo it up. Put first coat and tomorrow 1 more coat then smooth and cut faceplate out. Will post pics soon
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docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
also for paint I used many different brands of metallic silver, what ever was cheaper lol since not much is needed. I brush silver detail cuz I hate taping and Im good with a brush:lol
also for paint I used many different brands of metallic silver, what ever was cheaper lol since not much is needed. I brush silver detail cuz I hate taping and Im good with a brush:lol
-VERTIGO-
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
Doc, amazing work. What do you use to seal it? I'm assuming PVA but is there a specific brand/type you prefer over another? Also if you don't mind me asking, how are you going to solve the issue of not having an exposed under suit? Like the bends in the elbows, back of the knee's, etc?
Doc, amazing work. What do you use to seal it? I'm assuming PVA but is there a specific brand/type you prefer over another? Also if you don't mind me asking, how are you going to solve the issue of not having an exposed under suit? Like the bends in the elbows, back of the knee's, etc?
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docholiday78
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Re: foam with rondo+ brand new foam gloves and helmet
I use both to seal now, first watered down elmers than some modpodge also for the the bends this is not my idea I forgot whos idea but once i find out will give him credit, he used this and so will I. It can be purchased at lowes or homedepot its called vinyl runner
I use both to seal now, first watered down elmers than some modpodge also for the the bends this is not my idea I forgot whos idea but once i find out will give him credit, he used this and so will I. It can be purchased at lowes or homedepot its called vinyl runner
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