DL-44 build on newer Denix: Logo Addressed (no filler added)

DiggsBarklightr

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Greetings! Old guy here, long time lurker, longer time SW fan. Figured it was time to jump in with a build of mine I started with my son over the weekend.

I was sitting in a counter terrorism meeting a few weeks ago, we had just stopped for a break and I was looking out the window atop the 50 story building and I snapped this picture...

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My first thought after looking at it, "Trench Run!!". The next half hour I couldn't concentrate and pew pew pew thoughts were in my head, and, so I did what every other geek would do while sitting in a meeting trying to look as if they were paying attention...I order this!

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Let me first start off by saying I appreciate the attention to detail you all take. This build is for fun for me and my son so the attention to details you'll see here are more so along the lines of what I can pass along to him of my knowledge of tools and craftsmanship and what I've also learned from here; a conglomerate of everything. In no way will it be screen accurate, but it will be a good 10 footer hopefully to the average person ;).

Didn't feel like sanding for hours so after going the Johnny 5 route and dissembling her we hit it with some Aircraft Remover (paint stripper).

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After about 10 to 15 minutes just scrub it with a wire brush and it easily falls off. I honestly couldn't tell what was used to color this replica. It was almost too thick to be a bluing but to thin to be an epoxy base. Some of the pitted areas of the casting need to addressed with sandpaper, so we chose to use a 600 grit as to not score the alloy too much. Not a super soft alloy, but definitely not the hardest.

The photo above with the green glove really shows the casting dimples after the black has been removed. Our replica dimples were rally deep and we were really worried were were going to have to fill them with putty which I really wanted to avoid.

Next order of business was to tackle the seam lines after we rinsed the castings thoroughly of the Aircraft Remover. You can clearly see the difference in the image below from the top of the hammer where I am still sanding and bottom where the seam is still there where I haven't sanded yet.

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Same with the larger casting dimples. I figured there was enough alloy to where we could feather down using a file first then use sandpaper.

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Looking better, but still needs to be refined before finishing (y)
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I grew up in a garage working on cars with my Dad all my life. I've had some of the nicest muscle cars known to man and women and still do. Working on them have taught me a lot of values and tricks/ways to do things so you'd be surprised as to how many of those things carry over to making a replica blaster.

One of those we are going to use to fix a defect in our replica. The area on the left side which is a raised rectangle that covers what would originally be the Lock Frame on a real Mauser came to use crushed on the corner. So much that it was split, raised and spread out of alignment as you can see in the photos below.

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So, how does one fix something like this? Well, if it were a dent in a 65 Chevelle hood I would heat it up and then cool it down rapidly and it would pop right up. But I have a bigger issue here and that the split. The best I could do was to heat it up and pull it with a putty knife and rapidly cool it, then shape. See below for results.

Had some high spots after pulling so we needed to shape and refine the best we could. The whole point in doing this was to not go the route of using any type of filler. I want to show the people this forum you can still get great results without using filler. Character flaws shouldn't matter too much as long as it doesn't bother you :p

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And here it is after some light sanding. You can see the walls are even all the way across and no more huge dent as the gap is closed too. The crack is still there but something we can live with. Way better than it was, we think. You'll also notice in some of our photos a white or off-white dusting on the alloy. It's basically what is called a guide coat to tell us what are the high and low points of the alloy. where to sand and not sand just as if we are sand a cars surface. It's basically a light powder.

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Now we can move on to my favorite part of the build so far, the removal of the Denix Logo. At some point Denix changed their logo and stamped it into the casting. Filling it was easy enough, but made it ugly once you started to blue it etc, so we decided to see if filing it down would make a difference in the appearance. If this has been done, I guess I have missed it and I'm the idiot around here, move along. Otherwise, take a gander and this is how we tackled it. We figured there was enough alloy there as to not tamper with the overall aesthetics of it, but as it was so close to the milling of the Lock Frame milling area, we had to be careful as to how we would file as we could file "straight" on as it would diminish the milled wall entirely. So we milled at an ever so slightly 2 or 3 degree angle until it was gone never reaching the edge of the wall above the logo. See progress pictures below.

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Checking for high spots, throwing on some guide coat

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And finally...

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From the rear you can barely tell on the left side there was any alloy taken off where the logo would have been. So glad we did this rather than fill it with putty.

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Time to do some more refinement, sanding and play with these little treats!

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nice work! it is inspiring to see someone really not use filler at all. How did you "pull" that ding out of the rear of the gun? I was imaginging a set of pliers but can't tell what you gripped
 
nice work! it is inspiring to see someone really not use filler at all. How did you "pull" that ding out of the rear of the gun? I was imaginging a set of pliers but can't tell what you gripped
I'm sorry, I should have probably stated that a little clearer. I meant from the left side of it, you can barely tell we took any of the metal away while looking from the rear after filing down the logo. It's time consuming and a lot of file, look, file, file, look, file, look, file, file, look, but I think the result is really nice and clean looking.
 
:D I meant what you did with a putty knife!

You're right, you can't tell at all.
 
:D I meant what you did with a putty knife!

You're right, you can't tell at all.
Many thanks. Really was a shame it arrived like this and was afraid it wasn't going to "swell" up at all since it was split. If anything it should have spread apart further but we were lucky.
 
Looking great so far!
Great work!
Thank you, it's a fun build.

After looking at my pics so far and seeing the sanding markings on the inner indentation of the lowers, I might try my hand at a faux "accurized" finish (I hate using that word since it has nothing to do with making it accurate in looks...nothing against Bobadebt :cool:). I don't have time to set up a jig for my press, but I do have a few ideas as to how I can do it and still keep the lines straight and keep to the milled look. Hmmm, yep...I'm clearly not getting any work done today as I think about this :lol:
 
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Figured I’d try my hand at that idea I had for a faux "accurized" finish. I really didn’t feel like making a jig for my drill press and frankly I don’t have the time. I did have time to sit here on my rear and come up with ideas and the best of those was to just take a LEGO axle piece from my Millennium Falcon build, put it in my Exatco knife holder and wrap a piece of foam sandpaper around it. I tested it on a scrap piece of metal and came up with a swirled pattern like you’d see on stainless steel and it works pretty well. By no means is it a true milled look but it should offset the current plain look and give the impression that it was milled when blued. We shall see.
 
Love it so far! I imitated a roughly milled look with my Dremel and a grinding stone bit. It doesnt really remove much material but gives the pattern that some of the more roughly finished Mausers had.
 

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Love it so far! I imitated a roughly milled look with my Dremel and a grinding stone bit. It doesnt really remove much material but gives the pattern that some of the more roughly finished Mausers had.
Nice. How did it do after you reblued or painted it, did it still show somewhat?
 
I'll let you know. I just did this and haven't moved past yet.
I'm sure it will show up through bluing. I used a piece of cardboard as an edge guide for the Dremel to make straight lines. Far from perfect but I dig it.
I'm curious to see you ideas for disguising the pins and giving the gun a finish!
 
There is definitely enough meat on the bones for me shave off a good 1/8" to 3/16' on the pins for the trigger and hammer and then fill the holes just by driving in a fine threaded aluminum screw. I really don't think I could solder these holes no matter how well I fluxed it. Silver won't stick to it, I doubt a lead mix will and I really don't feel like spending the money to buy an alloy version. It just gets messy if you've ever worked with it. Plus these are very small holes so it's just not a practical application. BUT, I was plant of screws in the garage, hell I might even have some zamak screws from an old IKEA piece or plant hanger in the coffee can too, who knows? Either one will work. Can't shave off too much of the pins for the upper because there isn't too much wall there to work with, probably less than enough room for a few threads to take hold.
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Started filling holes today. After measuring what I needed I figured out I needed to shorten the pins by about 3mm on each side.

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Photo above gives you a good idea of how much the plugs will be filling in the holes now that they are shortened.
 
Went ahead and bought some zinc #6 x 32 x 1 1/2” screws electric box screws so I can fill these pin retainer holes rather than use putty. I really do not like the idea of using putty at all on this which is why I shaved off the Denix logo in the first place. Filling in the holes just carries over the same theme. These screws are just over the 3mm size AND they are zinc so these things will color match well with the aluminum black once it’s ready to be done.

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There is no need to tap in prep for these screws as the screws take easily to the metal. Be mindful that you are only turning a few millimeters into the casing, roughly 3mm down on each side once you have your tigger and hammer back in.


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Used the tape just as a precaution in case I slipped ;).

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