Discovery Channel's The Kennedy Detail

micdavis

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I've watched every Kennedy documentary ever made but this one was hands down the best.

It's about the Secret Service guys on guard the day Kennedy was killed.

In particular the guy that climbed onto the car.

Incredible interviews.

A must see.

They have a book out too, I'm buying it.

Real heroes despite the result.
 
Thanks for the heads up. Can't help but think of IN THE LINE OF FIRE and Clint's big speech when he finally opens up and his character talks about what happened that day. Always thought that was one of his better moments. I'll assume interviews with the REAL guys must be incredible. Thanks!
 
Dang how'd I miss this one? I catch as many of these documentaries as I can. The one I've liked the best so far was made up of nothing but news clips and interviews from the period. No modern interviews, no modern conspiracy theorists. It's on history channel a lot. I'm going to DVR this one though. Thanks for letting us know Mic.
 
It was very interesting.

They had many reunions but never talked about it until now. Jackie was an amazing woman.
 
I also agree - this was an excellent show. I highly recommend it. Frankly, occasionally gut-wrenching. As, I suppose, it should be.


-Mike
 
There's film of the SS guys detailed to ride on the back of Kennedy's car being ordered to stand down as the motorcade set off; you see them abandoning the presidential limousine and getting in the car behind, protesting. Their bewilderment is plain. I've always wondered how those guys felt after the subsequent events... unfortunately I didn't see the show. Was that clip shown? What did the guys have to say about their orders that day? Or did they not go into that?
 
They said they were told to stay off the car for visibilities' sake. Kennedy wanted the voters to see him. That's why the bubble top wasn't used.

One agent said he ran up to Jackies' side several times when the crowds got near.

They should do a recreation of that. If the Agents were on the back would it have blocked the shots?
 
Colin, one of the agents directly addressed that ... misconception.*

The road that the motorcade was on when Kennedy was shot is only a few blocks long, and leads directly to the interstate. The motorcade was about to go onto the highway - that is why there are no agents on or beside Kennedy's car.
 
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While that is true that road goes to the highway.

They also mentioned that Kennedy had expressly asked them to stay off the car. Despite there being two places to ride safely on the back.

Also POTUS asked for the bubble top to be removed.

It was election time and he felt that the people wanted to see him.
 
I've been studying/reading/watching everything I could find about this event since Jr. High...I wrote my Senior paper about it.

I even had an opportunity to chat briefly with one of the ladies that was on the sidewalk by the car when the fatal headshot hit...(Mary Moorman) (correction: It was actually her friend Jean Hill that I met...I always tend to get them confused)

No one would have ever made me believe that Oswald acted alone. And I've questioned whether or not he even fired a shot. Until now.

This is the first thing that I've watched that really made me seriously question my conspiracy leaning stance. These guys are the real deal, they are not flakes, and they are not looking to make a fast buck. Their memories have not faded.

If they say the shots came over their right shoulders, then I have a real hard time believing anything different.


Jason
 
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Yeah. When that one guy said he heard Kennedys head pop like a melon, you know they will remember it correctly forever.
 
This is the first thing that I've watched that really made me seriously question my conspiracy leaning stance.

Yeah.

I've stood in the Plaza and it sure looks like a perfect kill zone for some kind of planned event.

But those interviews just ring with conviction.
 
Sounds like a good watch, haven't been able to find it over here unfortunately, is the general consenses still that oswald did this alone?
 
No one would have ever made me believe that Oswald acted alone. And I've questioned whether or not he even fired a shot. Until now.

This is the first thing that I've watched that really made me seriously question my conspiracy leaning stance. These guys are the real deal, they are not flakes, and they are not looking to make a fast buck. Their memories have not faded.



If they say the shots came over their right shoulders, then I have a real hard time believing anything different.


Jason

Indeed. My current thinking from the piles I've read about all aspects of this, both in support of and against a conspiracy, is that the shots could well have all come from the Book Depository. Whether Oswald was responsible for all of them or any of them still remains to be proved.

If he'd gone to trial, there's no doubt the defence would've called a number of witnesses who would've testified to seeing a bald, dark-skinned man with a rifle in a window at the Oswald end of the Depository and another pair, including a guy in a suit, with a gun at another window further down.

I do have a big problem with the second shot and the delay between Kennedy's and Connolly's injuries as seen in Zapruder and in both the testimony of Connally and his wife. Everyone agrees that for Oswald to have been responsible for these injuries requires that there was no such delay, that they were caused in the same instant by the same shot. However, Connally and his wife insisted he was hit well after Kennedy, Connally having time to turn round, look at Kennedy's wound, exclaim, 'my god, they're going to kill us all', and turn back, before receiving his injury- and the film certainly seems to support them - which would place a second gunman on the scene, as of course the HSCA concluded in 1978.

I think it's interesting that Oswald, in the film of him under arrest that day, protests, 'I was the patsy.' I think if he'd acted alone perhaps he'd've been more likely to say, 'you got the wrong man' or some such. 'Patsy' is odd... it implies a plot; now if it's BS where is that going to get you at your trial? If you were a lone assassin, it would be much simpler to blame some other random unknown lunatic, rather than blame a non-existent conspiracy which you'd have to call evidence for in your defence. Seems to me it would work against Oswald for him to hint at a conspiracy if there wasn't one.
 
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