Dexter Season 7 and 8

... If this new kid were any older, I would almost think Vogel is getting Dexter to help him so that he can be caught as the killer instead of Dexter....


Wow! I never thought of that! Thats a very interesting idea. Yeah, we don't know how old he is, so he might seem too young to have been the Ice Truck Killer (that would have been 7 or 8 years ago) or the Bay Harbor Butcher, and if that would cause doubt about it being him. Very good idea though. I think it's a real possibility.
 
OK after tonight's episode, I'm even more convinced that Dexter is going to run away with Hanna. Looks like he's going to have to get rid of the rich kid...he just has no self-control and has too many anger issues to follow in Dexter's footsteps. But Hanna being there is really throwing Dexter off of his game. That hasn't changed at all.

The suspense is really building...!
 
Even though I knew Hannah was coming back I was really hoping Dexter wasn't going to act like the jerk he did last season, but I guess that was too much to hope for. She has only been back for one episode and Dexter is already at odds with Debra who will probably do everything she can, including murder, to get rid of her. I've hated Hannah since she made her first appearance and was really hoping she would end up on Dexter's table after she tried to kill Debra.

Dexter is going to have to do something about the kid. He won't listen to Dexter and that last kill was too close to home. I also don't think Quinn is going to back down, he is going to want to prove he was right about the kid and this could cause a lot of problems for Dexter.
 
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Can't say if Hannah is a master manipulator, or she was actually concerned with her abusive husband. She's good anyway, Dexter would have done what she wanted if she didn't had to do it herself first. I also think they are going to run away together, which doesn't bother me, I like Hannah when she's not trying to poison Deb.
The kid won't go down without a fight though, he knows too much to be fooled by Dexter...And with Quinn it sure can get messy ! Anyway something bad is going to happen, if Dexter has to run !
 
Here's how I think a few things are going to play out:

I had a feeling Zach didn't kill Cassie; it was just too convenient. It could have been the weepy boyfriend, considering Masuka's comment about the placement of the body suggesting it was someone she knew, but Cassie's bludgeoning was a little too similar to Norma Rivera's, so...

My next suspect is Quinn. He's surely the one who put Zach's blood under Cassie's fingernail. He had the opportunity, the motive (his obsession with nailing Zach), and the knowledge to pull it off; even Dexter was puzzled when he found out Zach didn't do it. But would he kill someone just so he could bust Zach for Norma Rivera's death? We'll see.

I think Dr. Vogel will be revealed as the "Brain Surgeon". First, her age makes her an unlikely suspect; perfect for a show like this. Second, she has intimate knowledge of, and familiarity with, all of the victims; this gives her opportunity. She could easily meet with them, lull them into a false sense of security, drug them, and dissect their brains while they're unconscious. Dumping the bodies might be difficult for her, but not impossible. Also, from a storytelling standpoint, there's a nice bit of closure if Dexter eliminates the person who actually made him who he is; maybe doing so will rid him of the Dark Passenger.

Hannah. I'm not sure how that's going to play out. If it weren't for Harrison, Dexter would probably run off with her. As is, in the end they'll probably fake her death and establish a new identity for her so that the Feds will stop looking for her. Or Vogel will kill her for "interfering" with Dexter. Again, we'll see.
 
I did not expect what's happened this week. It's a shame Zach is dead, this episode made me actually like him ! I have no idea what's coming next, but one thing is sure, Hannah and Dex are deep in love, so it's either going to end with them together, or one of them dead, if not both.
 
I found it interesting during the dinner scene where Hannah asked Vogel how she got into the field, and I forget exactly what she said but she basically changed the subject like she didn't want to talk about it. As the trailer showed for next weeks episode, Dex says he I going to kill the messenger (Vogel) maybe that's all a set up to try to lure the brain surgeon out. After all if it's not Vogel (don't think it is, remember Sussman? The dude was lifted onto a spike, Vogel couldn't have done that) he certainly wants to be the one to kill her himself so he would try to stop Dexter from doing it. Perhaps Vogel has a psycho son herself, did something horrible to him and now he is back to get his vengeance. Either way I think it might be Deb who dies in the end.
Big ups to the writers/producers, that scene last night with Dex in his apartment at the end, finding Zach and Vogels favorite song (make your own kind of music) was flat out creepy as all hell!!
 
She looked pretty surprised to me. I dunno.

Does anyone else think Deb's new boss might be involved somehow? The dude has lost his cool a few times, seems to have himself on a short leash. Zack was actually kinda fun this episode. Oh well.

"Don't 'dude' me." :lol
 
It really surpised me when Zach was killed and by the brain surgeon no less. I have not liked the last couple of episodes, mainly because I've never liked Hannah, but this one was pretty good. I have absolutely no idea who the real brain surgeon is.

I also think Quinn is somehow involved in things, don't forget he knew there was something up with Dexter in season 5 and basically dropped it because he was in love with Deb and he really went over the top last season when he allowed himself to be blackmailed and killed George.
 
So why was Zach at Dexter's apartment, dead? Vogel was to drive him home, right? Who else knows who Dex is and where he lives?
My vote's on Vogel.
 
I think it's Cassie's boyfriend Oliver. I'd say he got with Cassie to help keep a tab on her next door neighbor. He is probably Vogels son, he is something while he was young, hence the reason she got into the field. He even has the accent for it. Plus while he was sitting down with Quinn he said he hadn't seen Zach around Cassie when he intact did when he and Cassie were going for a swim as Zach and Dex were outside his apt.
My question is, if the brain surgeon killed Cassie and tried to frame Zach for it, why kill him then, or why even frame him...
Quinn may have messed with Zachs door handle to get a blood sample though to plant at a murder scene...all to strange.
 
Wow....those are some interesting theories. Personally, I just don't know what to think any more. But I think Cassie's boyfriend may very well be Vogel's son. Good Idea. I never thought of that. He would have had the strength to schlep Zach's body up those stairs of Dexter's apartment complex and impale that other guy. And it makes sense that Vogel got into this for some undisclosed reason, which could very well be her own son. But it seems to me that he would have to be at least as old as Dexter for her to have come up with her original therories for him ...do you think he looked to be as old as Dexter?
 
It was clever of them to twist Hannah back into the plot, and to have Dexter start to think about the possibility of life without serial murder - it gives the viewer the option to hope that the season ends with Dexter alive and free. Now if he survives the climax, he can sail off into the sunset never to kill again. That will at least get the viewer more invested when he's put in peril of death or capture, which before was pretty much the closest thing to a happy ending we could get out of the series.

It also feeds into the Vogel story. If the Brain Surgeon isn't Vogel herself, I think it'll definitely be someone working for or with her. I still haven't managed the details of what end she's trying to serve by examining the brain tissue, but a psychopath son would solve that mystery. It would certainly explain her stated views on psychopathy, at any rate. Maybe her son was the first subject for the killing ritual modification thing they did with Dexter, and now that she's examined a lot of different brains and seen Dexter developing genuine relationships, she believes that her son could be rehabilitated even further. I expect she'll want to collect the relevant tissue from Dexter's brain at some point, and that the season's climactic encounter will be between Dexter and Vogel and her partner/patient/son.
 
The thing I'm not so sure about is Vogel's role in the murders. If she really was in on it from the beginning, I don't think she would have brought Dexter into it or try to get him to teach the code to Zach. It looks like Deb might get in trouble for hiding Hannah.
 
Curious who is dead in dexters arms
In the next episode. Trailer for the next one aroun the .34 sec mark shows someone in a white shirt, like the one Vogel
Was wearing. Could she be the one Oliver
Is sawing up?
Also hearing rumors Dex will die out on his boat in the hurricane where he ends up at the bottom
Of the ocean with the rest of his victims thus "remember the monsters"
**** looks like its going to hit the fan though
 
Spoiler tags are your friend. Some of us intentionally don't watch next week's preview.

Ohhh come on trent. This entire thread is practically dedicated to spoilers. There has to be some realistic expectation about spoiler content. Posting about a preview is hardly a spoiler.
 
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