Dengar Silicone prosthestic help

gazmosis

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Earlier in the year I set out to make a Dengar costume. For anyone who is aware of Dengar's back story, his nickname is "Payback" for the revenge he is seeking on Han Solo. Solo forced Dengar into a horrendous crash while swoop bike racing on Corellia and the damage he sustained resulted in the headwraps and scarring we see on him. Dengar28[1].jpg I feel Dengar got the shaft because the famous bounty hunter scene where Vader points to Fett and says "No disintegrations" was originally shot with Dengar because Vader knew the situation between Dengar and Solo. I guess Boba Fett turned out to be a much more interesting character so the scene was rewritten with him. ANYHOO! IT would be pointless, in my opinion, to have a great costume and not extend the same effort to the face. I know there are scar fluids available but I wanted to transform my face creating not only the scarring, but the larger nose, the pronounced brow and REFUSE to shave my eyebrows!! With the help of my wife, we took an Alginate cast of my face.DSCN0021.JPG Once the plaster bandages we applied next cured to form the outer shell, I was able to fill it with ultra-cal 30. to get the duplicate of my face.DSCN0041.JPGI gathered all pics of the original character I had and began sculpting in sulfur free clay. My final piece was going to be Dragon Skin silicone so I needed a sulfur free clay. .DSCN0043.JPGDSCN0048.JPGOnce I was pleased with the sculpture, I recast the new face in Ultra-cal. Now I had my positive and negative molds. The two part silicone can be pre colored with "slic-pig" silicone pigments. It makes painting easier. I was now able to pull my facial appliance and after some painting This was the final result. 031.JPG038.JPG040.JPG The initial result is OK. My problem is in the adhesion of the appliance. The silicone based adhesive is very unpredictable. I heard that there is a product that encapsulates the silicone called Bald-eze. This supposedly allows more common adhesives to be used. If nothing sticks to silicone except silicone, how does this work. Does anyone have more info on this they would like to share??
 
im pretty new too, this so i may be wrong. the item being cast should have been cast in latex instead of silicone? however, ive seen some adhesives that are on the smooth on website. whether they work for your application is unknown.
 
There is a degree of thickness to some areas of the appliance. With standard latex, the thicker the material, the less natural it looks. Foam latex was just not possible with the nastiness that comes with the baking process so that left me with silicone.
 
You can use "Super Baldiez" as a skin for the silicone. Super Baldiez can be sprayed through an airbrush into both halves of your molds. I would do at least two coats. Be sure to use a good mold release. The silicone can either be poured into the mold or it can be injected. When you close the mold, the Super Baldiez bonds to itself and incapsulates the silicone.

When you apply the prosthetic, you will be able to use almost any of the prosthetic adhesive and you will be able to blend the edge with 99% alcohol.

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Btw, you did a great job on the sculpt.
 
Thank you, sir. I was also told that to get the bald-iez to bond to the silicone I need to spray 3m spray adhesive onto the baldiez prior to pouring the silicone.
Do you recommend this?
 
I have not used Dragon Skin before, but I have used other silicone products. I have not had to spray an adhesive to help the silicon stick to the skin. The Super Baldiez is delicate and may stick to the inside of the mold. So maybe that is why someone has suggested that. Using a good mold release is key. I would suggest using wax to seal the mold really well and then spray a light coat of epoxy parafilm. Adding dish soap also works extremely well because if an area sticks, all you need to do is introduce a small amount of water to help it release. Obviously you want to be careful of your detail. You can also add more coats of the Super Baldiez, even if the edges get too thick you can simply melt them down with alcohol.
 
Did you add deadner or slacker to the Dragonskin? Dragonskin is quite hard if it isnt deadened . Maybe a more flexible piece would adhere better and be less likely to lift when you make expressions etc.
 
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