Costume Accuracy vs. Publics Views

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I think (though I could be wrong) that only members of the party actually wore the swaztika.

I'm not sure on that one tbh. In Das Boot, only one member on the boat was a Nazi, but all the officers had the swastika on their peak caps.

Also, Heer soldiers had little swastikas sewn onto their uniforms.
 
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After reading everyones posts and really thinking about it I'm just going to say screw it and roll with the full getup and not really give a hoot what a few people might say.
 
After reading everyones posts and really thinking about it I'm just going to say screw it and roll with the full getup and not really give a hoot what a few people might say.

Let us know how you get on? Will give a good idea to anyone else that would like to try it.

Would love to see pics of your costume aswell.
 
The thing is, a Nazi uniform isn't a costume, it's a uniform. Costumes are usually worn at celebratory events. The real question is do you really want to wear a uniform, that for all intents and purposes, sybolises nothing more than systematic misanthropy, genocide, bigotry and fasism to a celebration? If you came to my celebration dressed in such a uniform, I would ask you to leave.
 
Good luck, you'll need it. That costume just might piss off the wrong person.

Here's the thing, and I realise in advance that this may not be a popular answer, but I'm going to say it anyway.

As I see it, there are two things to consider. First is that what a person says, either verbally or through the myriad cues that the Human animal uses like dress, body language, and the like, isn't necessarily what the other person will "hear." So while you may be dressing like Tom Cruise in Valkyrie, another person might look at you and assume you are somebody who gets his jollies kicking the proverbial hornet's nest. Or a closet nazi using this venue to revel in your, um, naziness. Who knows. Which leads to the second element to consider:

A person's constitutional rights to free speech are not, or at least should not, in any way be trumped by another's sensibilities of what is right or wrong. Ironically, those who champion Free Speech rights are sometimes the ones to start to shout them down when they don't conform to their ideas of what is "right." There are people who want the burning of the American flag to be free speech, but the flying of the Confederate flag to be hate speech, simply based on a visceral reaction. I know some people use the old "Confederates were nasty slavers and the USA is pure and wholesome!!" line of defense, but if you think like that I would ask you to read up on how we treated the Native Americans and ask yourself was it any better? I also know some people like to trot out the old "yelling fire in a crowded theatre" chestnut, but the truth is that yelling fire in a crowded theatre can lead to loss of life or injury, whereas flying a Confederate flag ( or to use the current example of wearing a Nazi umiform ) cannot, unless someone is so overcome by emotion that they pick a fight with you.

Also as a secondary consideration that hardly anyone in the huddled masses seems to consider is the fact that unpopular speech is the very speech that needs protection. Popular speech certainly doesn't.

It's really up to you whether you want to wear that uniform. Even with what I've said, I personally wouldn't, simply because of the hassle that would most likely accompany it would ruin my enjoyment of the Con.

And cons are to have fun, not fight political battles. And if I don't want my fun ruined I damned sure wouldn't want to ruin another's fun.
 
Well... We wear historical costumes from civil war, to medivil war and anciant costumes... I belive the problem is in time...

The WW2 Natzi uniform symbolize something that is to close to todays generation. The other is far long ago and can therby be accepted.

I dont approve of Natzi at all, but i do admit i think thier uniforms was something amazing compared to other uniforms. Hugo Boss design those uniforms and they were very nicely made.

we se the insperation in Star Wars as the officer uniforms and their attitude. But it is to close. I think the natzi cross is the thing thats brings out allot of tention. If you can go without that... i belive you be fine.

But that Natzi cross is not reffer to as evil... Its a old symbol from Viking time but it turned the other way. But its become symbol of something bad.

I also think it depends on what setting you are in. In a comercial, movie or historilcy setting i belive you will be safe... But i belive ALLOT will be upsett seeing you in the Natzi costume and even more enraged if you wear the symbol.


Be very carefull, if you meet the wrong person you can get beaten up, stabbed, or seriously hurt. Some people just are looking for a reason to hurt you.
 
I say where the entire suit, as long as your with me and you have handcuffs on, no ones going to say a word :rolleyes

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I belive you are right. If you are in correct setting with other historicle people you will pull it off and people will understand. But alone.... DAMN SCARY!!!

Its amazing to think of really. How much the other costume blance the possible hate...
 
After reading everyones posts and really thinking about it I'm just going to say screw it and roll with the full getup and not really give a hoot what a few people might say.

I agree with the above. You can over think things too. When ever I'm in a situation like this I remember what my dad used to say. " Try to please everyone & you will please no one. Please yourself & you'll please everyone" I know it's a tricky one especially the subject matter.On the other hand if you are agonizing over it don't do it.
 
My 2cents and I know I"m new here ,but... Its like, if you have to ask, then maybe you know its wrong to wear it. I mean, it's from a movie,but people are going to wonder why you would want to put that on. Accuracy important? Not really... and IMHO, it trivializes something that really affected millions. I'm not preaching,but how could it be worth it? Its one of those things, that you get what you ask for...be prepared. Otherwise, I do hope it turns out to be a good time and a positive one!
I'm not a violent man,but if someone came up to me in a Klan outfit and expalined they were just so and so from such and such movie, I would know that this was there one and only chance to go out and have what they call and excuse for wearing hate on their sleeve.
 
So if I were to wear a confederate uniform and carry around a confederate flag it would be ok? Not all confederates believed in slavery, just like not all Germans killed jews.

Or what if I dressed up like one of those crazy african guerrillas, I mean they massacre hundreds of thousands in africa each year, but because they don't fly the swastika its ok?
 
Here's the problem as I see it...

When you put on that costume, you will likely encounter someone who says "well, what kind of racist so-and-so would want to dress up like a NAZI!?!?".

Folks seem to assume a lot. So you run into someone who has has a few drinks and has some strong feelings about that, he might just take out his frustrations on you directly.
 
What stinks is that the real issue here isn't whether it is wrong or right to put a swastika on a costume, its who its going to tick off.

I'm not saying that the reputation wasn't well earned mind you. I wouldn't wear it. Its just that I can think of a few situations where it would be historically accurate and appropriate to have a swastika there. Like someone said earlier, not to have it on there waters down the history.

There's just no counting on common sense though. There will always be someone who just jumps on you first with a bunch of grief without thinking it through.
 
Okay guys, as I have read, mostly now people are just voicing their opinions via keyboard and text. His question was if he should wear something for costuming accuracy, not a right or wrong on racism and bigotry.


Lets move along with the thread, not say if you hate Nazis, as that wasn't the original question (I am not attacking anyone, or even defending, lets just get back on the track, even though this thread was bound to have this stuff happen in it anyway)
 
Hate is a strong word. Why do you hate them? Its like blacks still being mad at the south for slavery. Whats done is done, you weren't in a camp just like no blacks around today were slaves. Get over it.

Dude, are you arrogant just because you can be?

Thats a pretty bold statement, let alone in this sensitive of an issue. Chill out.
 
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