CONSTANTINE (HELLBLAZER) Props

Originally posted by LeMarchand@Jul 21 2005, 07:59 PM
the wording around the finger holes reads "fiat et piriat mundus piriat et stitia". The outer ring is mirrored.

Marc
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I saw that, but I thought the word should be spelled "pereat", not "piriat". *shrugs*
 
Originally posted by Ash@Jul 21 2005, 06:12 PM
All I want is that Spear Of Destiny.



          -Ash
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There are several on e-Bay right now. Just search under spear of destiny. B)
 
Is it just me, or does the "gold" overlay on the spear look suspiciously like fiberglass cloth. I know this stuff isn't made for close inspection but come on, have some pride in your work

It's meant to be gold coloured cloth. The detail is explained in the DVD documentary, based on changes that happened to the 'real' Spear of Destiny through history, which was extensively photographed, and exactly replicated for the movie. So I think they had more than enough pride in their work, actually.
 
Originally posted by Birdie@Jul 22 2005, 03:33 AM
Is it just me, or does the "gold" overlay on the spear look suspiciously like fiberglass cloth. I know this stuff isn't made for close inspection but come on, have some pride in your work

It's meant to be gold coloured cloth. The detail is explained in the DVD documentary, based on changes that happened to the 'real' Spear of Destiny through history, which was extensively photographed, and exactly replicated for the movie. So I think they had more than enough pride in their work, actually.
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There is a good book about the spear by Trevor Ravenscroft, one of the best experts when it comes to the spear.
Lance_of_Longinus.jpg

I believe it shouldn't be cloth but gold. I will look in the book for more info. The pictures i have seen of the real spear shows real gold rather than cloth (see above).

Regarding the knuckles and the lighter. I heard back from my friend who has agreed to trace the engravings for me, so i can use them for trying to make acid etched brass copies of the lighter and make a magnesium master for the knuckles. Should be fun. :)

Marc
 
Question to all the machinists out there...
How difficult would it be to machine a case around a zippo, to make the correct size for this prop? No etching or symbol in the middle, Im just talking a case that would cover an existing zippo. I made a cardboard and wood template that works great and is about the size, but before I waste my time looking into find someone to do this, I'd like to know if its going to be easy for them or hard. translation cost me alot or alittle.
thanks,
christopher
 
Originally posted by Birdie@Jul 21 2005, 07:33 PM
It's meant to be gold coloured cloth. The detail is explained in the DVD documentary, based on changes that happened to the 'real' Spear of Destiny through history, which was extensively photographed, and exactly replicated for the movie. So I think they had more than enough pride in their work, actually.
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I think they're pulling our legs with that explanation. Every image I have ever seen and discussion I have heard about the real spear, has it covered with gold and not cloth. In the dvd they say it's covered in gold, not cloth.

Regardless, it's still a beautiful piece as is all the work in the movie.
 
Alrighty, my friend the graphics artist and me are going to be tackling the knuckles and the lighter, yay.

Shouldn't be too hard (although i will have to throw around a nice amount of cash) to do. Only thing that i will need to figure out is if the hinges on the lighter are found ones and where i can buy them.

My idea is to have a couple of encasings for the lighter machined in brass and have them acid etched using the artwork my very skilled friend will do.

My idea for the knuckles is to have a slighty oversized magnesium master machined and etched and have a foundry do brass castings (hence the oversized master as brass srhinks when cast)

Should be fun :)

Marc
 
I'm so happy this thread's back.

And I don't care how much cash I have to lay down, I will have a set of holy brass knuckles. :)

-Aaron
 
I am confident my friend and me can pull this off and make good brass copies of the knuckles and lighter. It will be timeconsuming projects so it may take a while. I am going to consult another friend on the best options for engraving and etching today.

As for the shotgun, i doubt we will see a fanmade kit anytime soon, event if it gets done, it would probably be as expensive if not more expensive than the licensed one, because doing a prop like that will take a lot of time to make.

I think they used superglue on the DC one to hold it in the hand, so i guess by cutting away the fingers and dissolve the glue you can take it out, clean it up an repaint it. when i do this i will sure take notes and pics of the progress and post about it. Might be a cool idea to have all the pieces gold/silverplated :D

cheers,

Marc
 
I have a replica of Hicks's shotgun from Aliens and it seems to be the same type that is used by Chas in Constantine.

Here's a screencap from Constantine:
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Hicks used an Ithaca shotgun, no side ejection port, Ithaca loads and ejects from the bottom port. I believe it was a cut down model 37, which incidentally is the shotgun Biehn used in the first Terminator film. I always wondered if Cameron did that on purpose :)
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh22-e.htm

That is a mossberg shotgun, probably a modified model 500. Mossberg has the big fat boxy ejection ports.
http://www.eliteguns.com/class3/aow/mossberg_aow2.jpg

I really enjoyed Constantine. I've been reading Hellblazer for a long time, so I had to shut off that side of my brain going in. :) But it's different enough that I liked what they did.

Njc---------------------------
 
The Blueprints for the lighter are almost done and will be sent to my friend Mike so he can do his vectortracing magic. I am now almost sure the hinges are from sunglasses. My own pair has hinges like it, although instead of 5 knuckles, there are only 3. If i can't find cheap sunglasses with 5 knuckled hinges, i'll go with the 3 knuckled ones.

Cheers,

Marc
 
Originally posted by Ash@Jul 22 2005, 01:12 AM
All I want is that Spear Of Destiny.



          -Ash
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Someone is selling some pretty good replicas of these on Ebay.
 
Originally posted by LeMarchand@Jul 22 2005, 03:20 AM

...I believe it shouldn't be cloth but gold. I will look in the book for more info. The pictures i have seen of the real spear shows real gold rather than cloth...
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^Correct.^ Here are some Hi-Rez pix of the actual "Spear of Longinus", on display at the Hofburg museum in Vienna, Austria:

 
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