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Korriban isn't just some planet that was only mentioned once in some Expanded Universe novel. This is a planet that has played a key role the Star Wars universe for 20 years. It's not only played major roles in story lines spanning the old republic (Knights of the Old Republic) but also the New Republic (Jedi Acedemy). We don't need to wipe out it's entire existence just because Lucas liked the name Moraband better. I mean, what's the point? Just call this world that's supposed to be Korriban freaking Korriban. Why create more pointless rifts in the Star Wars canon when you can just simply acknowledge it? Not only will fans of EU "get it", but new viewers will be introduced to a new world that they can explore elsewhere. Now we're just left with a world that has never been seen before or since.

On this weeks RebelForce Radio, Dave Filonni's interview addresses this very subject! Dave and the CW team showed GL the reference sources using the Korriban name figuring that is what they would use. GL himself put the kibosh on it because he didn't like the way the first few letter of Korriban sounds similar to Coruscant, specifically he said he would never write that way.

He also confirmed Jango Fett was NOT a Mandalorian as per GL.
 
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I felt the same way as Jeyl on this, surprisingly, until I went to Wookiepedia that says it's been known by multiple names throughout it's history. Seems a good explanation to me, so I'll take it.
 
I do not think you have to worry about that. I cannot recall any "I am your father" moments.

Agreed, if anything the opposite might be true as the production crew intended these to air in chronological order but CN had other ideas.

After having watched the first 25 min of the film (basically the first "episode" of the film), I went back and watched the two prior episodes, which helped explain how/why the Jedi were on the planet in the first place. Given that the whole thing made a bit more sense, I decided to stick with chronological. I don't imagine I'll get through this all that quickly, though, since the film, while reasonably entertaining, is a little slow at places. Plus I have a ton of other stuff to watch. But I'm enjoying it as a diversion at the moment, and am surprised even by that fact.

Even from the first few episodes I've watched, it's pretty clear that the cost of this war is high. I'm hoping it'll be made explicit that Anakin takes this very much to heart, seeks more and more power so as to end battles as quickly as possible, and becomes more and more ruthless in his willingness to do "whatever is necessary" to put an end to the war single-handedly. To me, that was always the direction the character should've taken, rather than the whole "I miss my mom" thing.

On this weeks RebelForce Radio, Dave Filonni's interview addresses this very subject! Dave and the CW team showed GL the reference sources using the Korriban name figuring that is what they would use. GL himself put the kibosh on it because he didn't like the way the first few letter of Korriban sounds similar to Coruscant, specifically he said he would never write that way.

He also confirmed Jango Fett was NOT a Mandalorian as per GL.

As I've said elsewhere, I don't put a ton of stock in what GL says about his product, given how all over the map he's been about the direction of this or that character. Now that it's out of his hands, I can understand people wanting to respect his work, but I wouldn't let that hold them back from telling a good story.

Put simply, the Disney acquisition strikes me as a slate-cleaner. You can do whatever you want. Respect George where you choose to, ignore him where you choose to. Same goes for the EU. But the ultimate goal should always be telling a good story, rather than letting either George or EU canon (or canon-by-degrees) get in the way of that.

If Jango being a Mandalorian makes for a better story, then so be it. If it hurts the story, then dump it. If Korriban is the name of the Sith homeworld, fine. If not, because it's confusing, then fine.


I really don't care what's been established for 20 years in the materials. In fact, I'd prefer if we weren't hamstrung with conflicting canon out there (or even with crappy canon which is kept merely because someone decided to publish it). The material that's been put out with the Star Wars logo on it has ranged from awesome to awful and all points in between. I see no reason why we shouldn't just treat the whole thing like a buffet now and simply pick and choose the best bits.
 
TheForce.net: The Clone Wars Writer Discusses Unaired Episodes

The Clone Wars Writer Discusses Unaired EpisodesPosted by Eric on May 20, 2014 at 10:04 AM CST | 18 Comments
Our friend Jason at Making Star Wars spotted a number of tweets by The Clone Wars writer Brent Friedman that shed new light on the Season 7 and 8 episodes and story arcs that never saw the light of day. Here are the new revelations from Friedman:

  • Seasons 7 and 8 were fully written.
  • There would have been a bounty hunter arc with Cad Bane and Boba Fett. TFN first reported on this arc last March.
  • Yoda would have been featured "in a cool way" in another story arc beyond the one in the bonus content.
  • Friedman wrote a story arc involving ARC trooper Echo, who would have survived his apparent death on Lola Sayu in the episode "Counterattack." The first episode was called "The Bad Batch" and the second was called "A Distant Echo."
  • In Friedman's clone trooper story arc, Rex would have been in charge of a unit called "The Batch." The arc took place on the planets Anaxes and Skako Minor.
  • Anakin's response to Ahsoka's departure from the Jedi Order would have been explored in a later arc.


Check out Friedman's tweets below.
 
I'm really looking forward to Rebels, but I wish they had finished Clone Wars first. I don't see any reason why they couldn't have done so before moving on. I read somewhere that they stopped Clone Wars in favor of Rebels because the new show would have some kind of connection to Episode VII. But Rebels takes place 35 years before Ep VII, how much could it really have to contribute to a story that takes place so long after? I want to see all of that stuff mentioned in the article. Maybe they could do short story anthologies or even full novels with these stories sometime down the road. Here's to hoping we get those stories in one way or another.
 
I'm sure there would have been some sort of lead-in; maybe not to the degree we got with the original Clone Wars cartoon, but probably something. Not that I have any insider information on that front, just a feeling.
 
Listen, I loved the Clone Wars and would have been very excited to see a full season 6. The original plan had a 7 season arc that would have brought us close to Ep.3. Having said that, there was no way Disney was going to keep it going. For one it's focus on the PT era is not their corporate direction with the franchise in terms if future marketing, listening, content , ect. Equally germane, CW was VERY expensive to produce. When a company like LucasFilm has a single owner, GL, who is willing to spend his $ to make it is one thing. For a publicly traded corporation like Disney, cost consideration enters into the equation.
 
Listen, I loved the Clone Wars and would have been very excited to see a full season 6. The original plan had a 7 season arc that would have brought us close to Ep.3. Having said that, there was no way Disney was going to keep it going. For one it's focus on the PT era is not their corporate direction with the franchise in terms if future marketing, listening, content , ect. Equally germane, CW was VERY expensive to produce. When a company like LucasFilm has a single owner, GL, who is willing to spend his $ to make it is one thing. For a publicly traded corporation like Disney, cost consideration enters into the equation.


Agreed.

Of course I'm hoping that in a year or two when they get all their plans heading where they want to go and they determine the resources exist to venture out to new options... I'd like to see the remaining stories told via direct to disc movies. It's a pipe dream I know.
 
Agreed.

Of course I'm hoping that in a year or two when they get all their plans heading where they want to go and they determine the resources exist to venture out to new options... I'd like to see the remaining stories told via direct to disc movies. It's a pipe dream I know.


More likely it'd just be "Direct to Netflix," which I understand was the case with Season 6 anyway.
 
More likely it'd just be "Direct to Netflix," which I understand was the case with Season 6 anyway.

It's possible but it would depend if Netflix wants to pay the price tag for exlusive rights like they did for season 6. If you consider the possible profits involved with Disney releasing a staight to video box set of season six, Netflix must have topped that. Also there most likely is a time limit involved so that at some point Disney can sell them in disc form and/or synidication.

Disney has to weigh what would bring in the biggest return for something like that.
 
It's possible but it would depend if Netflix wants to pay the price tag for exlusive rights like they did for season 6. If you consider the possible profits involved with Disney releasing a staight to video box set of season six, Netflix must have topped that. Also there most likely is a time limit involved so that at some point Disney can sell them in disc form and/or synidication.

Disney has to weigh what would bring in the biggest return for something like that.

It's purely a guess on my part, but I would expect that the deal struck between Netflix and Disney gives Netflix exclusive digital streaming rights to the Clone Wars series -- and, I'd bet, any future Star Wars animated series, like Rebels -- in their entirety, including old material and any new material as well. I'd also bet that Disney reserves its right to publish (or license the publishing of) storage-based media like DVDs/Blu-rays of the same material, although Netflix might get a first crack at streaming-only access for, oh, 3-6 months before discs are released. In other words, future seasons would go to Netflix first, then not too long after be released on disc by Disney.

The reason I'm guessing this is because, why pay for the right to ONLY distribute the older stuff when you can buy future interest in any new material that might be created at the same time? Might as well just pay for the whole package.
 
It's purely a guess on my part, but I would expect that the deal struck between Netflix and Disney gives Netflix exclusive digital streaming rights to the Clone Wars series -- and, I'd bet, any future Star Wars animated series, like Rebels -- in their entirety, including old material and any new material as well. I'd also bet that Disney reserves its right to publish (or license the publishing of) storage-based media like DVDs/Blu-rays of the same material, although Netflix might get a first crack at streaming-only access for, oh, 3-6 months before discs are released. In other words, future seasons would go to Netflix first, then not too long after be released on disc by Disney.

The reason I'm guessing this is because, why pay for the right to ONLY distribute the older stuff when you can buy future interest in any new material that might be created at the same time? Might as well just pay for the whole package.

Same here, only guessing. I'd have to believe that Netflix has some sort of deal with Disney that states that if they offer up material for streaming, it would have to be through them. But I would also have to believe that Disney has the right to decide how they initially want to offer their product. Like I said, they may make more money selling discs for 6-12 months, then sell the rights to Netflix or vice versa as with the case with season 6. All I'm stating is that I think Disney did (or will do their) their homework.
 
Netflix has a deal for all Star Wars and Marvel streaming distribution.

Right. But....

The specific area of question is non theatrical released material. If Disney were to do a Star Wars movie that was not ment to be realeased via theater or network/cable (Think Litle Mermaid 2, Mulan 2, etc..). Does an agreement already exist that states that Netflix would have exclusive rights allowing them to offer it for a set amount of time before Disney can offer it for disk sales? Or would Disney weigh the decision on a case by case basis?
 
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