Captain American Civil War Build (Suit complete-ish! Pictures to come)

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Well yes and no haha. My cousin had finished modelling them for me, but something went off with the scale that she had to correct. We needed to do a test print to see if she was able to correct it properly, but since mine conked out we ran out of local options. Why, interested in taking a crack at it? :p

That's why I was asking haha
Wanted to see if they'd be scalable to my Whitesheep leather suit. I could print you a set at your measurements as well if they work


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That's why I was asking haha
Wanted to see if they'd be scalable to my Whitesheep leather suit. I could print you a set at your measurements as well if they work


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I'll talk to my cousin and see if she can send the file to me cause yeah I'd actually appreciate that a lot! The original design has excess coming the edges since it was meant to be sewn in, but I'll probably have her remove the excess so it's just a piece that's glued on.Easier to apply on an already made suit and whatnot. I'll message you later when she gets back to me!
 
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I'll talk to my cousin and see if she can send the file to me cause yeah I'd actually appreciate that a lot! The original design has excess coming the edges since it was meant to be sewn in, but I'll probably have her remove the excess so it's just a piece that's glued on.Easier to apply on an already made suit and whatnot. I'll message you later when she gets back to me!

Keep in mind the print won't be rubber if that was your intention [emoji6]

Appreciate it!


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Keep in mind the print won't be rubber if that was your intention [emoji6]

Appreciate it!


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Hah, fair enough. If anything I can scrounge up some brush-on silicone and try my hand at rubber casting :p
 
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Hah, fair enough. If anything I can scrounge up some brush-on silicone and try my hand at rubber casting :p

That's what my plan would be lol
Shoot me a pm to discuss


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Hey all! So not quite done with the undershirt yes, but I amassed so many pictures assemble the shoulder sections that I figured I should split them into a shoulder assembly post, and a final sleeve/body assembly post. A lot of back and forth happened on how I was going to do the shoulder rings and I ultimately decided that I would put a pleather base for the shoulders in for now that I can later glue rubber shoulder rings onto. The rubber part is being delayed for a bit as my cousin's computer crashed before she could finish the model, but hopefully she'll be done in a week or so. Either way, here's how I assemble the shoulders to keep the progress going.

So first up was making the base of the shoulder caps our of pleather and cordura. I was able to reduce the shoulder ring down to 1 ring once I realized the other seam actually connected flat without any curve. So I sewed that up, and sewed the cordura center piece in. A piece of headliner foam was set into the cordura cap and topstitched into place to give it some more stability. When I topstitched it, I turned the pleather seam allowance under the cordura so that the pleather would be slightly lower. This'll give the rubber rings a little bit of space to sink into so they look like they're actually inset and not just sitting on top of fabric.

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Then I attached the cordura shoulder section I had previously made and the red cordura strap around the pleather ring, as well as the section of jumbo spandex that connects the red band to cordura. Some of these images look reversed as I kept switching between taking pictures of the right and left shoulders depending on what I was working on when there was good daylight.

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Next up, I sprayed the back of the headliner foam shoulder cap I had made earlier and inserted it into the shoulder ring, and then took the spandex liner with the shoulder foam stitched on into the back of the assembled shoulder as well. All of that was secured in during the topstitched of the cordura and jumbo spandex, trimmed away some of the excess just to make it look neater.

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Now before closing up the shoulder, I decided to make the panels that make up the sides of the undershirt. These would be sewn onto the front and back edges of the top-shoulder cordura and sewn up along the side, so that when I sewed the jumbo spandex attached the shoulder in place, I could seal up the armpit right away. Sounds kinda confusing so hopefully these pictures illustrate the steps I took.

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In left to right order, the side panels, the front-side panel sewn into the blue cordura, the back side panel sewn into the red cordura, the spandex armpit piece sewn onto the other side of the shoulder section, the side seam stitched up, the armpit seam secured. Upside to all this is that you completely avoid having to set a shoulder cap in the "normal" way!

And lastly, some pictures of the shoulder section all assembled, ready to have the bicep section attached so that the embossing on the red strip can be added. Both shoulders are completed up to this point and the left sleeve is 80% assembled with the other sections. I should have both sleeves and the body done by wednesday, so hopefully thursday I can show off some pictures of the completed undershirt (barring the rubber rings that will be added later).

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Just wanted to pop in and say great work and also thank you for the detailed step by step procedures. Particularly from the mysterious world of actually sewing things together! It is greatly appreciated!
 
Re: Captain American Civil War Build (Undershirt/sleeve construction!

Just wanted to pop in and say great work and also thank you for the detailed step by step procedures. Particularly from the mysterious world of actually sewing things together! It is greatly appreciated!

Thank you and you're very welcome! It partly spawns from my own neurotic desire to make my thread more interesting, but I also figure after almost 3 years of basic sewing and 1 year after my first MCU build, maybe I've got some valuable experience to share haha Or at the very least, showing all my steps'll make it easier for more skilled costumers to give my tips :p
 
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This is absolutely incredible!! Would you take a commission for this by any chance?

EDIT: I just saw your Instagram description :cry

Would you be willing to help me big time on finding fabric and more detail on sewing instructions? :D
 
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This is absolutely incredible!! Would you take a commission for this by any chance?

EDIT: I just saw your Instagram description :cry

Would you be willing to help me big time on finding fabric and more detail on sewing instructions? :D

Hey man, yeah sorry I do this as an after-work/weekend hobby so I don't have the time for commissions ^^' Perfectly happy to tell you where I sourced my fabrics though!

Blue 500D cordura from rockywoods.com
Burgundy 1000D cordura from textile_specialist on ebay
Dark navy jumbo spandex from fabricsworldusa.com (I live near their physical shop)
White doubleknit ponte from fabric.com
Headliner foam from Joann's (can be bought online or at their stores)

I haven't gotten the dark brown fabric or the leather for the belts and whatnot, but those will most likely just be dark brown cordura from rockywoods, a dark brown denim or twill (to make fake webbing for the belt and shoulder harness), leather from tandy leather, and black pleather from fabric.com for the bootcovers.

As for sewing instructions, really the best instruction I can give is in this actual thread! I'm self-taught and most of my sewing is trial-and-error, so I don't feel I could actually give super-detailed sewing instructions aside from the order I sew everything together in (which I do through the pictures). Really best suggestion I could give would be to use scraps of the fabric to mess around the tension, stitch length, and stitch settings to see what works best!
 
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Alright, the undershirt is complete! Aside from the shoulder rings which will be added later, I'm ready to move on to the next step. And with that, here's far too many pictures of assembling the final product.

So when I do the sleeves, I have to do them in a bit unorthodox manner as some of the seams and topstitching would be impossible for me to reach with my sewing machine otherwise. That's why I prefer to split the construction is sections that can be attached to eachother after they're all detailed. First step was attaching the bicep sections from earlier to the shoulder. Because of the angles and curves present, I had to do each seam line individually since running it straight through would be impossible with my machine. This involves a lot of muttered cursing and praying. After it's attached, I quickly did the embossing for the red strap using craft foam cut to the shape of the outline, and a second piece for the little bump that sits above it. This was done the same as the edge-embossing on the forearm, tucked under the seam allowance. The minimal topstitching for the blue sections connected to the jumbo spandex was done after.

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Next was attaching the forearm section to the bicep. For this I wanted to just topstitch the bicep section onto the jumbo spandex to save some time and because the actual suit looks like that's how it was done. To prep for this I basted along the seam line of the jumbo spandex base, and sew up to first inch or so of the forearm. I didn't sew it all the way down since keeping it open would give my machine and hands some space to work. Then I pinned the cordura around the headliner foam inside, and also pinned the little flap part, and then repinned the jumbo spandex underneath all that using the basting as a matching line for the cordura.

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Unfortunately, the space was so narrow that I wasn't able to easily machine sew it down. The straight, horizontal seams I was able to slowly machine sew, but I had to do some hand-sewing to connect all the diagonal seams. They aren't very long, but I'm also terrible at hand-stitching. The sleeve pictured is actually the left one which was entirely hand-sewn at my desk at work during lunch and for a bit after quitting time! But with that all secured, I hemmed the cuff with a machine stretch-stitch, and sew edup the underarm seam to close it entirely. Then I topstitched the seam that runs across the chest from the shoulder, and made the remaining front and back jumbo spandex panels to attach to the fully assembled sleeves.

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Last steps were to test it for fit, topstitch the rest of the seams after making sure they didn't need alterations, installing the zipper, and hemming the collar and bottom. Unfortunately I'm still pretty bad at hemming collars, but it isn't uncomfortable and it'll be covered up anyway so close enough!

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And lastly, a couple shots that show how the shirt actually sits on me. Next up, pants!

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Small edit: I'll actually be doing the overshirt next and the pants after, as patterning the pants first is harder without the stripes on the stomach to line up the red side stripe.
 
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Re: Captain American Civil War Build (Undershirt/sleeve construction!

That is BEAUTIFUL


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Hey man, yeah sorry I do this as an after-work/weekend hobby so I don't have the time for commissions ^^' Perfectly happy to tell you where I sourced my fabrics though!

Blue 500D cordura from rockywoods.com
Burgundy 1000D cordura from textile_specialist on ebay
Dark navy jumbo spandex from fabricsworldusa.com (I live near their physical shop)
White doubleknit ponte from fabric.com
Headliner foam from Joann's (can be bought online or at their stores)

I haven't gotten the dark brown fabric or the leather for the belts and whatnot, but those will most likely just be dark brown cordura from rockywoods, a dark brown denim or twill (to make fake webbing for the belt and shoulder harness), leather from tandy leather, and black pleather from fabric.com for the bootcovers.

As for sewing instructions, really the best instruction I can give is in this actual thread! I'm self-taught and most of my sewing is trial-and-error, so I don't feel I could actually give super-detailed sewing instructions aside from the order I sew everything together in (which I do through the pictures). Really best suggestion I could give would be to use scraps of the fabric to mess around the tension, stitch length, and stitch settings to see what works best!

Thank you so much! Again, your work is absolutely amazing. I just started sewing this year, but my friend has been sewing her whole life with her mom that is a professional seamstress. Hopefully between the 3 of us we can achieve something close to the quality of your work! I look forward to seeing the rest of this project, and I'm sure you'll hear from me again when I start on mine! Thanks again for taking the time out to respond and being so helpful!!
 
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WOW!!! That is absolutely beautiful!!!
 
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Wow, thank you for sharing great pictures from your suit progress! I really like the step-by-step documentation that you show using pictures. I wish I was as good as you taking pictures along the way! The way you try to find as accurate fabric down to the weave is also very impressive! :) Despite the screen-used suits having printed textures..but sometimes it's a trade off between available resources and overall goal of a costume project IMO.

I just finished my own "Smithsonian/Golden Age" Cap Suit from The Winter Soldier, and I am trying to convince myself to start on a Civil War (or AOU) suit myself. I appreciate that you have shared so many great pictures that I am definitely going to take some inspiration from, and to help me convince myself to start on one myself. Keep up the good work buddy!

Btw, my WS Smithsonian/Golden Age suit thread is here:
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=262782
 
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:eek
WOW!!! That is absolutely beautiful!!!

Thanks gold!

Wow, thank you for sharing great pictures from your suit progress! I really like the step-by-step documentation that you show using pictures. I wish I was as good as you taking pictures along the way! The way you try to find as accurate fabric down to the weave is also very impressive! :) Despite the screen-used suits having printed textures..but sometimes it's a trade off between available resources and overall goal of a costume project IMO.

I just finished my own "Smithsonian/Golden Age" Cap Suit from The Winter Soldier, and I am trying to convince myself to start on a Civil War (or AOU) suit myself. I appreciate that you have shared so many great pictures that I am definitely going to take some inspiration from, and to help me convince myself to start on one myself. Keep up the good work buddy!

Btw, my WS Smithsonian/Golden Age suit thread is here:
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=262782

You're welcome man! And thanks for the compliments! And your Smithosonian suit looks great! The screening on your fabrics turned out really good. And the Civil War/AoU suits are both intense in their own ways (personally I think the CW might be more because of the added detailing in the sleeves and pants), but they're really really satisfying to look at when done haha
 
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Shorter update to keep the thread moving! Contrary to what I said before, I'm actually gonna be working on the overshirt next and the pants after that. This is just because the detail of the pants will be a lot easier for me to align once the overshirt is done. So first up is the patterning. I took the other half of my duct tape body pattern (which has been sitting on a microphone stand with a bowler hat on it the last month) and cut it apart into four sections, transferring that to posterboard. From that, I make a basic mock-up out of muslin to see how it actually fits once made of fabric.

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It was still a bit loose in a few spots once I put it up on the mannequin, so I pinned it up around the loose spots to make the fit a bit closer and more streamlined. After that, I traced out the lines of the armholes and it out on the right side only.

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The weird angled bit at the back is because when you look at photos of the suit, the back armor is a separate flap that covers up what the actual seam of the overshirt looks like. But, judging from what CAN be seen, it kind of looks as it if hooks in close to the back like a racerback swimsuit or something. If anything, it'll give me a ton of shoulder motion room and make it easy to put on. Not pictured is me then sewing up those pinned seams, cutting the mock-up apart and making a new posterboard pattern to save for future use, and then using that pattern to make a SECOND mockup with symmetrical seams and armholes. It was a bit of a pain and cost an extra night of work, but also means I won't have to do any more duct tape body-wraps in the future!

Anyway, last thing I got to was putting the mock-up on over the undershirt (my girlfriend pinned up the back for me) to check the fit and hem on my actual body, as well as place the spot for the star (and a marking point for where my chest and stomach meet). The star is my starting point for patterning since it's its easy to draw out from it and get the proportions for everything right. Took a picture before taking it all off, but I also didn't have pants on, so enjoy my free-hand MS painted patriot pants.

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The patterning is finished! At least I think so. It's all cut out into posterboard though so, no turning back now!

First step was getting the star sized and placed precisely. The tracing I originally made was in the right position for the top point, but the star itself was a bit too undersized. I figured out a good proportion by opening a good, hi-res shot of the torso of the suit from straight on and measured the length of the torso in mm on my screen. Then I measured the mm length of my torso vest. Divide the screen measurement by the torso measurement, and that gives you the key to scaling up parts of the suit (at least lengthwise). From there I measured the stars vertical length on my screen, multipled that by the number I got from my earlier division, and that gave me the proportionate length of the star for my suit! I also did quick measurements to determine the length between the tip of the star to the neckline and from the bottom 'corner' of the star to the beginning of the stomach stripes.

Then I printed out a quick, low-res version of the star on my printer, placed the tip at the line I had marked for top point, and traced out the shape. This gave me the proper starting point for the rest of the pattern. I also did the same measurement to figure out the width of the dark blue border around the star, and quickly drew that as well as the angle going up to the collar. The starburst piece was easy to draw right after that as it's basically straight lines that follow the shape of the star border. The line it up properly, I matched it to the seam connecting the cordura and spandex at the shoulder, and the seam where the cordura insert panel connects to the main panel.

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Next I drew out the designs for the rest of the chest. Looking at the design it seemed like the insert panels top and side edges were equidistant from the starburst and star border. After finagling the distances a bit I got it to float somewhere around two inches and used a ruler to mark off several equidistant points. Then I just played connect the dots to finish the line. To figure out the bottom line of the inser, I actually started at the starborder as the seam connecting the chest to that triangle stomach piece is a straight line. From there I just measured the width point of the chest insert at the armhole and use my measuring tape to make a straight line to intersected with the first line.

As you can see in the top-half of the first picture, that line while straight when drawn, droops a bit on the actual pattern. This is because the mockup was still a little loose around that seam. This is good though because it gives me a chance to create a dart that tightens the fit around the chest and maybe add some curvature to it. I pinned a dart in along the line I drew, not enough to pull the material up, but enough to tighten up the fit. Once I was happy with the shape, I traced out those lines on the back, repinned it the other way and sewed the darts shut. The line now looks a lot cleaner and the chest has a chest better fit. I also quickly drew out the flap section that runs under the chest and armpit, as well as the rest of the triangle piece.

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The rest of the patterning is pretty much just straight-forward free-handing. I did use my measuring trick to figure out some more of the proportionate distances down the middle, but I also fudged it a bit to what looked the most aesthetically pleasing on a shirt sized for me. The first picture also has a red line I traced on my phone to distinguish the final seam lines I decided on for that area (things got a bit messy due to indecisiveness). First thing I drew from there is the white section that surrounds the red middle stripe. This I sketched with a red pen first to get the right general shape, and then finalized it with a sharpie. That also gave me the shape for the red middle section. Then I traced the shapes of the foam inserts for the white section and used that as a guide for the inserts in the middle.

After that, I traced out the shape of the red section that travels all the way along the armpit. I only drew it up to the side seam for now as I wanted to finish off the sides and back after I finished the front. That also gave me the outline of the outer white stripe, so from there I just had to sketch the outer seam, keeping in mind the shape of the red panel on the sides.After I was happy with the shape of the sections, I traced them in sharpie, did the foam insert markings (and the markings for the bar-tab greebles that sit on top of the inserts), and finished extended the red and white stripes under the armpit and around to the back. Last step was just to sketch the seam connecting the red panel to the blue panel that wraps around from the back, and finish drawing the foam insert that runs all the way around. The back I left un-patterned as I'm gonna do his back panel, yike, and 2nd collar as a separate piece.

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Last thing to do, cut it all apart, transfer it to posterboard (neurotically testfitting the pieces against eachother as I go), and then cutting all those out in preparation of starting to actual fabric build. The one thing I'm unhappy with is that because of the shape of my waist/the way I patterned the side seam, I had to split the blue back/side panel a bit to accomodate the seam that runs through it as it wouldn't lay flat as is. Seeing as it's not too visible a spot it isn't the biggest deal, but I'll probably still toy with it when I cut out the fabric to see if maybe I can move that seam elsewhere.

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This is totally amazing. I get basic sewing, but this is like black magic to me. Kudos!
 
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