Can we keep the Junkyard somewhat on topic?

[Lord_Gita]

I came up with a good suggestion :lol

Can you elaborate on subsection? I'm not sure how that could be realized without creating a new forum. Or did you mean separating the JY and OT JY into a new section like the Archives, Announcements, Technical, and Suggestions are now?

 

[Rylo]

Again, I'm just suggesting a prop area and an 'everything else' area.

Props, costumes, models rather all go together and are 'on Topic'...I mean, they're all props.

Everything else is just that. "everything else'

Either way; thanks for taking a look at the situation. :thumbsup

I agree with you mostly Rylo, however, looking at the statistics of the RPF the most popular forum is the Prop Forum, not the JY, and the most poular thread is in SS Modelling, not the JY.

So, my concern is the JY and sales/auction stuff is expanding bigger and bigger and I worry about too much JY (i.e. multiple JY forums) taking too much attention away from the active prop building activities. With a second JY the RPF would be 50%/50% prop building activities...

Prop Forum, Costuming, General Modeling, SS Modelling
Community Gatherings, Junkyard, OT Junkyard, Off-Topic

An OT Junkyard would be specifically created to not be prop related and I'm not certain that is a good direction to go with this forum... On the other hand, since the content is already there it would be nice to be able to look at the JY and not see all the OT sales threads...

 

[defstartrooper]

Can you elaborate on subsection? I'm not sure how that could be realized without creating a new forum. Or did you mean separating the JY and OT JY into a new section like the Archives, Announcements, Technical, and Suggestions are now?

Most forums have the ability to create subsections within forum sections so you would click on the existing JY forum inside there would be two sections one for OT one for not.
Clicking on whichever section would take you to those threads but yes even easier would be to create just another forum below the existing JY one.

I just thought it would be a way of keeping everyone happy those that dont want to see non prop threads wouldn't have to and the prop ones wouldn't get bumped to the 3rd or 4th page.
And those that wanted the facility to sell their non prop wares still could.

P.S another thing i find annoying in the JY is threads titled for sale you open them only to find its an auction not a sale.
I also dislike for sale threads with no price listed or PM with offers, its just an auction really where you have no idea what the last bid was.

 

[JOATRASH FX]

I also cast my humble vote for purifying the JY a little.

I go to the JY to find prop replicas, studio scale models, regular models, costumes and associated tools/parts. Basically everything that isn't a "toy" in the traditional sense. If there were an OTJY created, I would also suggest that everything in that forum should have some connection to our hobby, i.e. Sci Fi figures or collectibles are ok, the living room sofa is not (unless it happens to actually be a prop of course). Why not let that certain auction site keep its place as the Internet dumping ground for unwanted stuff. The membership of the RPF is intelligent enough to utilize common sense.

 

[Spiker]

I would be just fine if the JY was seperated in 2 areas: For Sale and WTB.

 

[micdavis]

Not sure where it would go.

I think a TRADING Forum would be cool.

No sales just trades.

 

[Rylo]

Again, I'm not suggesting anything complex.

Just one simple forum with two sections:

1) Props
2) Non prop

Let's just keep it simple or we'll never get past this thread.

Baby steps

 

[Gman666]

Again, I'm not suggesting anything complex.

Just one simple forum with two sections:

1) Props
2) Non prop

Let's just keep it simple or we'll never get past this thread.

Baby steps

I agree with Rylo. Section 1 would be props either real or replica. Section 2 would be items related to but not props and other things. I know that it is broad but it can be refined.

Thanks!

Greg

 

[Rylo]

Okay, this thread has gone on a good long time.

The junkyard is still a flea market of anything and everything. :unsure

I just don't see why it's a big deal to say, "Hey, the junkyard is for prop related merchandise and interest threads."

If you feel like there must be a Misc. area, make it just that; misc. (Non Props) or (Everything but props)

I believe we're a prop forum first. Action, figures, video games and plates have no place here. The only people who would fight this suggestion are those who enjoy listing such crap in an otherwise popular area at the RPF.

I'm simply asking; begging. Please, don't force me to wade through misc. items to get to what I'm here for.

PROPS

 

[rollerboi]

I have to back Rylo up on this one; keep it simple.
A section for props and a section for not.

No need to further complicate or separate topics at this point.

 

[mtpalin]

I think Rylo's suggestion is great. Admins, is there a reason(s) why action hasn't been taken yet?

 

[jd pilot]

Yup, need to throw my vote for a prop and non-prop section. I'll post a saber up there, then 12 hours later it’s on page 3 or 4 :confused There's an off-topic forum, why not a 'off topic' junkyard?

I wouldn't think it'd be all that hard to separate. Anything that is movie oriented (weapons, studio scale, costumes, 1:1 busts, parts to make these items, ect.) and then anything that would help display these items (cases, plaques, stands ect.) be in the regular JY (as someone put it, it is "The Replica Prop Forum").

Toys, like GG busts & figures (hasbro or Sideshow that aren't 1:1 items), DVDs, iPhones, DVD players, t-shirts that aren't costume related (example: a Superman T shirt vs. a replica T shirt Jan wore in Firefly), ect. ect. go in the off topic JY. It should be pretty common sense to distinguish the difference between what goes where, right :confused

 

[ortiz34]

I say leave it as is, people will start complaining with 'what defines a prop' when things get moved (superman vs jayne shirts) some would say both, some would say niether. If you are selling a good product at a good price it flies out of the JY. The bigger JY issues to me are the 'for sale' threads that are really 'for auction' and the previously mentioned US vs overseas unknown location...

 

[Rylo]

If someone doesn't know what the definition of a prop is they should be ****-canned from the RPF on general principal.

This doesn't have to be difficult. A prop is a prop. C'mon.

Speaking as a propmaker, I don't like to use the Junkyard at all. Using your criteria, all of my runs are well priced and most tend to "fly" out of the Junkyard when I offer them. (Your words)

BUT, it's a constant struggle to keep the threads bumped and makes for three times the work that it should.

It's tough for me and those who buy my goods.

I say leave it as is, people will start complaining with 'what defines a prop' when things get moved (superman vs jayne shirts) some would say both, some would say niether. If you are selling a good product at a good price it flies out of the JY. The bigger JY issues to me are the 'for sale' threads that are really 'for auction' and the previously mentioned US vs overseas unknown location...

 

[defstartrooper]

I say leave it as is, people will start complaining with 'what defines a prop' when things get moved (superman vs jayne shirts) some would say both, some would say niether. If you are selling a good product at a good price it flies out of the JY. The bigger JY issues to me are the 'for sale' threads that are really 'for auction' and the previously mentioned US vs overseas unknown location...

That maybe the case, it probably will be, but it would be minimal much like misplaced threads are on the rest of the forum like model or costuming threads in the prop forum for example,it happens but not that much so it's not a big deal it doesn't really disrupt the prop section.
the same would apply if you had prop and non prop JY sections, from time to time there will be the odd questionably placed thread but on the whole they'll end up in the right place, so prop stuff wont get bumped back 3 or 4 pages in a day by sales of non prop stuff.

 

[ortiz34]

"Speaking as a propmaker, I don't like to use the Junkyard at all."

ummm, so dont use it...


"BUT, it's a constant struggle to keep the threads bumped and makes for three times the work that it should."

not sure why you are so concerned about bumping your threads, if people are buying, it gets bumped usually right?

as long as sellers keep their threads up to date (adding sold or delete when its over)all JY threads are active(thats another ish).

are you complaining that the junkyard is active, or that you dont feel you are getting the 'exposure' you paid for(which last i heard is nothing)?

ive been to MANY boards where the for sale section is deader than dust with 1/3 of this sites traffic...

added:im not trying to sound harsh but, maybe the rpf can get some paid revenue and institute 'sticky' sales in the JY for people that dont want thier sales bumped?

 

[JOATRASH FX]

I think the main frustration is having to wade through lots of stuff for sale that isn't even remotely associated with our hobby.

 

[ortiz34]

i understand, but many peoples idea of prop varies...
are jayne shirts props?
-well, no, they are costumes

is a 1:1 bust of indy jones a prop...
-well, no, its a statue or a bust

BUT if you are a fan of either franchise, thats pretty much the same as a mal gun or an indy whip as far as interest goes isnt it?

now if people were mostly selling 'spoons from around the world' or 'insulation for a house' id agree but...

 

[JOATRASH FX]

now if people were mostly selling 'spoons from around the world' or 'insulation for a house' id agree but...

That's not too far away from what is actually listed sometimes....

 

[ortiz34]

That's not too far away from what is actually listed sometimes....

if they are listing non-genre stuff then i totally agree they should be removed...