Too Much Garlic
Master Member
What I don't understand is that when they do the battle damaged Terminator make-up, they don't go full T1 with it - it's always clean and sanitized and the skin doesn't even come off in a realistic manner anymore.
Heck... they should go all zombie look with it, as the more the skin and tissue is damaged, the more it deteriorates and rots. Someone actually made a bust that looked insanely creepy and awesome.
We need to bring the decay back to Terminator. And I think it could be more successful if they brought the horror back. Zombie movies sell... so why cannot Terminator be sold like that?
Imagine seeing a swarm of terminators encircling your hide-out, skin peeling and rotting, and the metal endoskeleton showing in gross ways through the damaged skin... and then the faint glowing red eyes in the dark, coming closer, searching, from side to side, their heads turning with the eyes, silent, locking on to targets and killing them in an instant in a sudden flash of movement or with a plasma bolt.
Bring the horror back to the Terminator franchise. Horror sells... and it's weird that the producers and filmmakers took it out of horror and keep doing timetravel instead of the future war (though I know why: because they just copy T2)... and this franchise was BUILT for horror and suspense and tragedy.
Lately there's been talk of James Cameron being back into doing a new one. I really wish he would stop his reboot talk and just do FUTURE WAR. That is what everyone wants. That's what Salvation tried to give us but failed.
I want the future war that Reese told Sarah about. About the death camps. About working day and night. About loading bodies (probably for sampling to make terminators). About one man, who taught them to fight, and the eventual attack on Skynet where they win and Reese volunteers to step into the time machine at the risk of death, in order to save his friend and mentor, through saving the woman he loves.
And if people say you cannot make that movie, because everyone knows it, then I'll just say: adaptions of books work. Movies based on actual history works. All it requires is a good scriptwriter, a good director, good actors, and the studio keeping the **** away from production.
It can be done. The framework is there. It's just the bare minimum. You can do so much with adding filler to that framework. Filler that works. Filler that makes the viewer care about the world, the struggle and the characters in it. It doesn't have to follow John Connor or Kyle Reese. It could follow anyone. Even just a civilian trying to survive and protect someone they care about, seeing the battle unfold around them, seeing the horror... seeing the relentless hunter killers... and eventually experiencing the paranoia of people you know come back and look weird and kill everyone... the stories spreading of loved ones feared dead, coming back and going crazy. Learning the horror of the terminators... getting paranoid about the people you are with or meet out and about, then seeing the rubber skin ones, learning to spot them and run away or destroy them from afar... until the T-800's come along, being completely indistinguishable from regular humans... devastating every hide-out, every lone survivor... in the struggle... to annihilate humankind.
Why can we not get this movie?
Heck... they should go all zombie look with it, as the more the skin and tissue is damaged, the more it deteriorates and rots. Someone actually made a bust that looked insanely creepy and awesome.
We need to bring the decay back to Terminator. And I think it could be more successful if they brought the horror back. Zombie movies sell... so why cannot Terminator be sold like that?
Imagine seeing a swarm of terminators encircling your hide-out, skin peeling and rotting, and the metal endoskeleton showing in gross ways through the damaged skin... and then the faint glowing red eyes in the dark, coming closer, searching, from side to side, their heads turning with the eyes, silent, locking on to targets and killing them in an instant in a sudden flash of movement or with a plasma bolt.
Bring the horror back to the Terminator franchise. Horror sells... and it's weird that the producers and filmmakers took it out of horror and keep doing timetravel instead of the future war (though I know why: because they just copy T2)... and this franchise was BUILT for horror and suspense and tragedy.
Lately there's been talk of James Cameron being back into doing a new one. I really wish he would stop his reboot talk and just do FUTURE WAR. That is what everyone wants. That's what Salvation tried to give us but failed.
I want the future war that Reese told Sarah about. About the death camps. About working day and night. About loading bodies (probably for sampling to make terminators). About one man, who taught them to fight, and the eventual attack on Skynet where they win and Reese volunteers to step into the time machine at the risk of death, in order to save his friend and mentor, through saving the woman he loves.
And if people say you cannot make that movie, because everyone knows it, then I'll just say: adaptions of books work. Movies based on actual history works. All it requires is a good scriptwriter, a good director, good actors, and the studio keeping the **** away from production.
It can be done. The framework is there. It's just the bare minimum. You can do so much with adding filler to that framework. Filler that works. Filler that makes the viewer care about the world, the struggle and the characters in it. It doesn't have to follow John Connor or Kyle Reese. It could follow anyone. Even just a civilian trying to survive and protect someone they care about, seeing the battle unfold around them, seeing the horror... seeing the relentless hunter killers... and eventually experiencing the paranoia of people you know come back and look weird and kill everyone... the stories spreading of loved ones feared dead, coming back and going crazy. Learning the horror of the terminators... getting paranoid about the people you are with or meet out and about, then seeing the rubber skin ones, learning to spot them and run away or destroy them from afar... until the T-800's come along, being completely indistinguishable from regular humans... devastating every hide-out, every lone survivor... in the struggle... to annihilate humankind.
Why can we not get this movie?