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Interest Blade Runner ID Card from Earl Hays Press
- Thread starter PropsToHistory
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So, there had been several folks upset at the price of these and I want to address that.
First, I didn't set the price, so please stop sending me angry DMs through social media.
Second, the process used to make these isn't something that can be done on a laser printer.
The process used is, quite frankly, ridiculous by modern standards. We're using the exact methods used in 1981 to produce them, by hand and with the exact same printing press and cutting machine used in 1981. Not TYPE of printing press/cutting machine... the exact same ones, in the exact same building.
It is very labor intensive. Each ID takes about 2 hours to make start to finish. And the cost to produce them isn't too far under the asking price. Those who have stated its just a "laminated card" ... it isn't.
It's hours and hours of work. Months of research. Everything from the type of ink, to the weight of the card stock was researched. These aren't just ID cards, they're the story of the propmaking art from decades past.
They are a direct link to the filming of one of the defining films of the scifi genre.
I understand if the price seems high to some. But know that an enormous amount of effort and research went in to making these available.
First, I didn't set the price, so please stop sending me angry DMs through social media.
Second, the process used to make these isn't something that can be done on a laser printer.
The process used is, quite frankly, ridiculous by modern standards. We're using the exact methods used in 1981 to produce them, by hand and with the exact same printing press and cutting machine used in 1981. Not TYPE of printing press/cutting machine... the exact same ones, in the exact same building.
It is very labor intensive. Each ID takes about 2 hours to make start to finish. And the cost to produce them isn't too far under the asking price. Those who have stated its just a "laminated card" ... it isn't.
It's hours and hours of work. Months of research. Everything from the type of ink, to the weight of the card stock was researched. These aren't just ID cards, they're the story of the propmaking art from decades past.
They are a direct link to the filming of one of the defining films of the scifi genre.
I understand if the price seems high to some. But know that an enormous amount of effort and research went in to making these available.
Since you are discussing details,
I can completely understand the price, it is what it is, not going to argue with this for sure, sorry that you received angry DM for this...
It is a lot of money for me for sure and probably for a lot of people here, that being said, I'm very excited about this since I have spent so much time on those very badges myself, so I'm hoping I'll get something that will justify the amount of money I'm paying, that's all.
Seeing the few prototype photos you posted, I'm still worried about the precision of the replicas you guys are producing, I'm seing glue fingerprints on the last photos and hoping this will be addressed.
As I already said several times, sorry about this,this is unsolicited advise but I'm really trying to help, the amberlith corners on the original badge are extremely clean, to achieve this on my badges, I'm first holding the amberlith on the badge with the photo that I'm gluing with a fast setting glue on the paper of the badge, not white glue that is barely adhering to the amberlith, then I'm using Cleopatra glue applied with a brush on each corners AND letting the badge rest under press for a while after this. Then I'm cutting the corners and getting a perfect result. All of the rejects I'm getting are from this step, it's easy to get a poor match on the amberlith.
Another thing that is important is the way the laminated sleeve is made, well I'm personally sure they used pre-cut card plastic sleeves for those but no worries there, however I'm seing a lot of un-melted glue on your prototype, to avoid this, I run my badges two times in a raw in the laminator, once vertically and once perpendicular to the first pass.
I'm perfectly happy to cut my own plastic sleeve to the size I want as it will allow me to control at least this, however, I'm not sure most people will have the material for the round corners and it might be an issue for them.
I'm sorry again if this seems annoying, I'm trying to share my experience on those so that everyone gets the best product possible. It is a huge opportunity for us to get access to this but it is important not to lessen the value of the prints with a lesser quality assembly on the badges, I hope you understand and don't take this the bad way
Cheers
MrTeabag
New Member
Good point actually, I wouldn’t dare to cut these to size on my own I lack the tools and would probably mess it up!Since you are discussing details,
I can completely understand the price, it is what it is, not going to argue with this for sure, sorry that you received angry DM for this...
It is a lot of money for me for sure and probably for a lot of people here, that being said, I'm very excited about this since I have spent so much time on those very badges myself, so I'm hoping I'll get something that will justify the amount of money I'm paying, that's all.
Seeing the few prototype photos you posted, I'm still worried about the precision of the replicas you guys are producing, I'm seing glue fingerprints on the last photos and hoping this will be addressed.
As I already said several times, sorry about this,this is unsolicited advise but I'm really trying to help, the amberlith corners on the original badge are extremely clean, to achieve this on my badges, I'm first holding the amberlith on the badge with the photo that I'm gluing with a fast setting glue on the paper of the badge, not white glue that is barely adhering to the amberlith, then I'm using Cleopatra glue applied with a brush on each corners AND letting the badge rest under press for a while after this. Then I'm cutting the corners and getting a perfect result. All of the rejects I'm getting are from this step, it's easy to get a poor match on the amberlith.
Another thing that is important is the way the laminated sleeve is made, well I'm personally sure they used pre-cut card plastic sleeves for those but no worries there, however I'm seing a lot of un-melted glue on your prototype, to avoid this, I run my badges two times in a raw in the laminator, once vertically and once perpendicular to the first pass.
I'm perfectly happy to cut my own plastic sleeve to the size I want as it will allow me to control at least this, however, I'm not sure most people will have the material for the round corners and it might be an issue for them.
I'm sorry again if this seems annoying, I'm trying to share my experience on those so that everyone gets the best product possible. It is a huge opportunity for us to get access to this but it is important not to lessen the value of the prints with a lesser quality assembly on the badges, I hope you understand and don't take this the bad way
Cheers
It would be really great to have the option to choose between the two plastic sleeve versions.
Please add me to the list for one (1x). Thanks.
Thank you for the updates PropsToHistory great work but at $200-$250 with shipping to the UK sadly I will have to pass but good luck.
Everything you said is entirely valid. I don't want people to see these and worry about any of that. The photos posted are prototypes. Not final process. Before these are sold the process will have been refined and quality will be paramount. I want them to be amazing. And while some artifacts of the printing process will be there, assembly will have the greatest care put into them.Since you are discussing details,
I can completely understand the price, it is what it is, not going to argue with this for sure, sorry that you received angry DM for this...
It is a lot of money for me for sure and probably for a lot of people here, that being said, I'm very excited about this since I have spent so much time on those very badges myself, so I'm hoping I'll get something that will justify the amount of money I'm paying, that's all.
Seeing the few prototype photos you posted, I'm still worried about the precision of the replicas you guys are producing, I'm seing glue fingerprints on the last photos and hoping this will be addressed.
As I already said several times, sorry about this,this is unsolicited advise but I'm really trying to help, the amberlith corners on the original badge are extremely clean, to achieve this on my badges, I'm first holding the amberlith on the badge with the photo that I'm gluing with a fast setting glue on the paper of the badge, not white glue that is barely adhering to the amberlith, then I'm using Cleopatra glue applied with a brush on each corners AND letting the badge rest under press for a while after this. Then I'm cutting the corners and getting a perfect result. All of the rejects I'm getting are from this step, it's easy to get a poor match on the amberlith.
Another thing that is important is the way the laminated sleeve is made, well I'm personally sure they used pre-cut card plastic sleeves for those but no worries there, however I'm seing a lot of un-melted glue on your prototype, to avoid this, I run my badges two times in a raw in the laminator, once vertically and once perpendicular to the first pass.
I'm perfectly happy to cut my own plastic sleeve to the size I want as it will allow me to control at least this, however, I'm not sure most people will have the material for the round corners and it might be an issue for them.
I'm sorry again if this seems annoying, I'm trying to share my experience on those so that everyone gets the best product possible. It is a huge opportunity for us to get access to this but it is important not to lessen the value of the prints with a lesser quality assembly on the badges, I hope you understand and don't take this the bad way
Cheers
As of right now no. Maybe down the roadAlso, these are all Rick Deckard ones, right? No option to have your own name and photo?
I had a question. Since the badges are going to be limited in nature, are there going to be COAs issued and will they be numbered? I only ask because I went from being 5 on the initial interest list to number 17. Wasn’t sure if the order here impacted our spot on the run. Thanks!
COAS will be issued. The order on the list won't affect anything. There's 50 being produced for the RPF run. There all the same.
Please put me back on the list.
Yeah imo if you’re reaffirmed, I feel you should get your original spot on the list.
KarlBud420
Sr Member
Reconfirming I’m still in but would like to order 4 (2 regular, 2 with clips). Would love it if EH could do the trimming for the cards that would have the clips though rather than leaving it in my hands. Awaiting payment instructions.
Thanks,
Bruce
Thanks,
Bruce
If the run isn't numbered then it's not a big deal. It was more if the COA was going to be numbered, which Mike said they're not. So I'm just happy the run is happening and happy I'm on it.
I’m still in. Thanks!
But I do have a small issue with the ID….
Can we get a photo where Harrison Ford looks friendlier? I mean, it’s 1981 / 1982 and he looks like he’s channeling the grumpiness of 2023 Harrison Ford.
How about this one?
Just kidding….
PropsToHistory and if you are taking votes on “trimmed / rounded corners” or “untrimmed / unrounded corners”….
My vote is for “trimmed / rounded corners” by the shop….I don’t want to do the trimming myself and possibly damage the ID Card.
Or, can this be an option that we specify in the sign-up?
But I do have a small issue with the ID….
Can we get a photo where Harrison Ford looks friendlier? I mean, it’s 1981 / 1982 and he looks like he’s channeling the grumpiness of 2023 Harrison Ford.
How about this one?
Just kidding….
PropsToHistory and if you are taking votes on “trimmed / rounded corners” or “untrimmed / unrounded corners”….
My vote is for “trimmed / rounded corners” by the shop….I don’t want to do the trimming myself and possibly damage the ID Card.
Or, can this be an option that we specify in the sign-up?
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