Batman Fan Film Discussion. Updated 3/24 W/ storyboard beginning

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I can't really provide anything besides feedback, but I like the story lines so far. I'm especially a fan of the Joker story and how you're going the darker more sadistic Joker route.

I like the Bane concept alot too, I've always been a huge fan of the classic luchador mask when it came to Bane.
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

(to self: I bet there would be more traffic through here if I put up Harley Quinn or Catwoman artwork :p )

-Seth


I seen Catwoman and Harley Quinn and came running. I liked the concept art.

lol when it said laughing serum I pictured joker trying to get the truth out of someone and then giving him the laughing serum instead of the truth serum by accident. :lol

XD I also got a kick out of the Trolls for 131 XD
 
Re: Batman Fan Film Discussion. Updated 3/2/ with Concept Art

Nice work so far. I like the script and where you're going with it. Concept art is looking cool as well. Shame you're in USA i'd love to help out where possible.
 
Re: Batman Fan Film Discussion. Updated 3/2/ with Concept Art

I can't really provide anything besides feedback, but I like the story lines so far. I'm especially a fan of the Joker story and how you're going the darker more sadistic Joker route.

I like the Bane concept alot too, I've always been a huge fan of the classic luchador mask when it came to Bane.


Nice work so far. I like the script and where you're going with it. Concept art is looking cool as well. Shame you're in USA i'd love to help out where possible.

Thank you! Even if you can't "contribute" it doesn't mean that just being fans isn't helping, thanks! :)

I seen Catwoman and Harley Quinn and came running. I liked the concept art.

lol when it said laughing serum I pictured joker trying to get the truth out of someone and then giving him the laughing serum instead of the truth serum by accident. :lol

XD I also got a kick out of the Trolls for 131 XD

You know what? I think I may just write that in to the next Joker episode (Two of a Kind) :lol

Yeah, I think some people just need to know where to go sometimes :rolleyes

-Seth
 
Re: Batman Fan Film Discussion. Updated 3/2/ with Concept Art

Hey, I speed sketched a few panels for either a comic using this story or the storyboard, they are real quick, not my best work, just threw together, so don't think this is where my skill level is :p

-Seth

PANEL 1

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PANEL 2

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let me know what you think of the staging
 
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Sounds fun. I'm in Illinois and wouldn't mind being a part of this. I don't have any pro experience in filming but I can act. Took acting lessons and on the plus side, I'm a pro wrestler so actin isn't a problem for me.
 
This project is just being kicked around at the moment as I'm not financially able to fund all of this, or have the props yet, but it would be nice to have another person in on it.
if you don't me asking how tall are you (just wandering if You could be a batman candidate :p )

The Armorer
 
I think these frames are a great start, but you should start to focus yourself towards really either a comic approach (infinitely cheaper to create, basically just up to how much time you can invest) or really as boards for a filmed project. I say that because it can be a little difficult to give critical feedback when they could be either thing.

I think i understand, they are basically some key images that are starting to take shape into a sequence, whether that be on the page our in prep for on the screen, so really what difference does out make? And to a certain extent i agree. And as far as that goes, like i said, I think it's a good start. Bit if it were truly going to be boards for a filmed project, i would pick a screen frame shape (an aspect ratio -- and that said i would pick 16x9 as that is TV standard widescreen and most video cameras will shoot that frame shape) and i would work all my images on that frame to start getting specific with compositions and seeing how they well cut together. Also, just on a technical note, i would refer to each image as a frame, and give each frame a specific number by which it could be referenced. So what you are currently calling frames i would call a page, and each frame would be numbered by scene, shot, and frame of that shot (some shots will be described in one frame, some shots will need many frames). This way you can discuss the work easily and .specifically. Of you do want to go this route, let me know and i can show you some page templates for laying out storyboards.

Okay, but that said, also ignore all of that and first come at it however you are inspired to. Once you pick a direction you can always backtrack and reorganize the work you've already started.

And don't worry or take it to mean too much when people do or don't respond at any given moment to your thread. People are busy and get caught up in their lives. I understand the impulse to feel like it has to be a reflection of your work, but that way leads to madness. Brush it off when you aren't getting responses and follow your inspiration. Everyone else will catch up.

I know i owe you my thoughts on the Ant Man preview. Been running around like crazy, will hit you up shortly.

Just keep putting the work in. It's looking good.
D
 
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After Notice:

Though I do not claim any of the rights of the original story or characters, I would like a little respect for these stories that I create (as in no copy and pasting them somewhere else and claiming them as your work, spread the word about it all you like, just be sure to give credit where credit is do.).

As for complete story overviews they are in the works, and they will be posted on the site for everyone to read as soon as I get them up. Also, sorry for any grammar problems, it was a quick write up.

Thanks for reading.

Seth Lind
(The Armorer)


I've not read through the whole thread yet so forgive me if anyone has brought this up, but when working on any sort of long form film like a web-series or television show you want to write what is called a "Bible". Essentially you'll write the back story for every character and the extent of every storyline for the whole show, even past the first season or set of episodes. It's detail that might not ever make it into the show, but it helps tremendously when writing individual screenplays and helps maintain continuity.

For my current project I'm writing an overall chronological storyline, a timeline, and individual character bios. It's a lot of work but it makes things easier down the road.

I'd help out if I could, but I live in California and I'm currently slaving away at my own fan series. I wish you the best of luck, and if you need any advice feel free to ask.
 
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I love this idea i would love to see it happen and in action. When i see a lot more going on and more and more put together ill make donations towards the bane costume! :D
 
I've only just come across this, while i haven't read everything I did read most.

I'm going to be really brutally honest with you

I think this sounds like an awesome project. However I think you are way out of your league at the moment if you haven't ever filmed something. While I have mad respect for you thinking big, I would get to grips with some basic camera work.

I can see from your storyboards (will come back to this in a second) that you have an eye for framing. However you need to get yourself a camera a couple friends and shoot a conversation piece. Then edit it together, you will learn so much from this process. I would also recommend copying a scene from a film you like, copy everything you can the camera angles the framing everything you can with what you have. Be realistic I'm not suggesting you shoot the final part of the Avengers here.

Getting back to your storyboards, this isn't a conventional storyboard and most cinematographers won't use this. As mentioned in a previous post, your drawings don't need to be works of art they just need to show the framing in the proper format. They don't need to be amazing works of art i cant stress this enough, Hitchcock's storyboarding skills were amazing, Scorsese's were glorified stick men. If you google examples from both you can see very clearly what camera angles they wanted and what type of shots.

Don't run before you can walk though mate, go get a camera out and make something. Do this today right now, you have no valid excuse not to shoot something today. if you do manage to think of something, then ask yourself are they really valid or is it just you stopping yourself?


Shoot something. It will be horrible, I mean horrible, thats fine no one is forcing you to upload it to youtube and show us. Use it for yourself and work out whats wrong with it what are the mistakes you will overcome on your next shoot. Shoot something again, getting better? Proud of your results? Show us get some feedback, good feedback is great something that can inflate some ego and boost confidence, but some serious crit is what you're really after, if they can back it up with some suggestions even better. Take it like a man, understand your audience and get back behind the camera. Repeat.


Go for it mate and good luck.
 
NOTE: I'll probably post three or so posts to cover everything, don't hate :p

I think these frames are a great start, but you should start to focus yourself towards really either a comic approach (infinitely cheaper to create, basically just up to how much time you can invest) or really as boards for a filmed project. I say that because it can be a little difficult to give critical feedback when they could be either thing.

I think i understand, they are basically some key images that are starting to take shape into a sequence, whether that be on the page our in prep for on the screen, so really what difference does out make? And to a certain extent i agree. And as far as that goes, like i said, I think it's a good start. Bit if it were truly going to be boards for a filmed project, i would pick a screen frame shape (an aspect ratio -- and that said i would pick 16x9 as that is TV standard widescreen and most video cameras will shoot that frame shape) and i would work all my images on that frame to start getting specific with compositions and seeing how they well cut together. Also, just on a technical note, i would refer to each image as a frame, and give each frame a specific number by which it could be referenced. So what you are currently calling frames i would call a page, and each frame would be numbered by scene, shot, and frame of that shot (some shots will be described in one frame, some shots will need many frames). This way you can discuss the work easily and .specifically. Of you do want to go this route, let me know and i can show you some page templates for laying out storyboards.

Okay, but that said, also ignore all of that and first come at it however you are inspired to. Once you pick a direction you can always backtrack and reorganize the work you've already started.

And don't worry or take it to mean too much when people do or don't respond at any given moment to your thread. People are busy and get caught up in their lives. I understand the impulse to feel like it has to be a reflection of your work, but that way leads to madness. Brush it off when you aren't getting responses and follow your inspiration. Everyone else will catch up.

I know i owe you my thoughts on the Ant Man preview. Been running around like crazy, will hit you up shortly.

Just keep putting the work in. It's looking good.
D

1. Focus. Nothing truer than that. I haven't ever storyboarded anything, but I have meddled in comic illustration, and I really just threw those panels together without much serious thought (you can tell by the artistic quality :facepalm ) which leads to the technical help, yes, I would very much appreciate that :)

I think that I need to focus and bring it all into perspective being that it will be a film/show and that it needs to be wrote for and as one.

2. I remember the whole number ever panel thing from reading previous self help filmwriting books, but they never really went into that, I may need to look it up at the library about that ;)

Thanks about the artwork, the layout is all I went for, I could do a lot better with details and color, but well, then again it wouldn't have taken the half hour that it took to do both of those either :p

@about the Ant Man project, unless I can find someone to sew it, I'll have some trouble with it, so, that's another question I'll be asking in that thread....

-now on to the next reply
 
I've not read through the whole thread yet so forgive me if anyone has brought this up, but when working on any sort of long form film like a web-series or television show you want to write what is called a "Bible". Essentially you'll write the back story for every character and the extent of every storyline for the whole show, even past the first season or set of episodes. It's detail that might not ever make it into the show, but it helps tremendously when writing individual screenplays and helps maintain continuity.

For my current project I'm writing an overall chronological storyline, a timeline, and individual character bios. It's a lot of work but it makes things easier down the road.

I'd help out if I could, but I live in California and I'm currently slaving away at my own fan series. I wish you the best of luck, and if you need any advice feel free to ask.

1. I completely understand this, and honestly, I have began doing this for a while now, just haven't uploaded, or wrote it down yet. for a few characters I'm afraid to because of the men in the white coats will come take me away for being so creepy and sinister :p (Crane's backstory in general)
And you're right, outline first, then timeline, then backstories, and everything else that is the core of what makes what happen, even though you don't see it, aka make the characters and stories tell themselves in their own right. I have bios up in a few of the previous pages of Bane and Joker (should put scarecrows up... maybe, the men in the white jackets aren't too far away :p )

I'm interested in your own fan series if you could pm more details with a link or just whatever it is about (never hurts to see what's out there, I've always thought everything you experience in life is to teach you something).

I love this idea i would love to see it happen and in action. When i see a lot more going on and more and more put together ill make donations towards the bane costume! :D

Thanks! Hopefully we'll all be able to enjoy this story come to life :) (and I'll let you know about the bane costume when the time comes ;) )

I've only just come across this, while i haven't read everything I did read most.

I'm going to be really brutally honest with you

(1) I think this sounds like an awesome project. However I think you are way out of your league at the moment if you haven't ever filmed something. While I have mad respect for you thinking big, I would get to grips with some basic camera work.

I can see from your storyboards (will come back to this in a second) that you have an eye for framing. However you need to get yourself a camera a couple friends and shoot a conversation piece. Then edit it together, you will learn so much from this process. I would also recommend copying a scene from a film you like, copy everything you can the camera angles the framing everything you can with what you have. Be realistic I'm not suggesting you shoot the final part of the Avengers here.

(2) Getting back to your storyboards, this isn't a conventional storyboard and most cinematographers won't use this. As mentioned in a previous post, your drawings don't need to be works of art they just need to show the framing in the proper format. They don't need to be amazing works of art i cant stress this enough, Hitchcock's storyboarding skills were amazing, Scorsese's were glorified stick men. If you google examples from both you can see very clearly what camera angles they wanted and what type of shots.

(3) Don't run before you can walk though mate, go get a camera out and make something. Do this today right now, you have no valid excuse not to shoot something today. if you do manage to think of something, then ask yourself are they really valid or is it just you stopping yourself?


(4) Shoot something. It will be horrible, I mean horrible, thats fine no one is forcing you to upload it to youtube and show us. Use it for yourself and work out whats wrong with it what are the mistakes you will overcome on your next shoot. Shoot something again, getting better? Proud of your results? Show us get some feedback, good feedback is great something that can inflate some ego and boost confidence, but some serious crit is what you're really after, if they can back it up with some suggestions even better. Take it like a man, understand your audience and get back behind the camera. Repeat.


(5) Go for it mate and good luck.

I humbly agree with that... from what I must appear to sound like = :rolleyes and reality = :confused

That being said, I do understand "I need a bigger boat" so to speak, I haven't made anything yet so I won't know how it works, so until then I won't be able to, but that doesn't mean that I can't write or picture how things will be, then as I learn hands on with other projects I'll be able to revise what I already have done to make it work, I take what you say as constructive criticism as I understand what you are saying :)

2. Yeah... I was just having fun. It's on the list of to do's to sketch the storyboard as it 'should' be done, not like a comic (which most of my art pertains to).

3. Truth- the only limitation is yourself. I have the day off, so I may get something shot if I can get my brother to help me :p

4. Try Try Again. Yes, I know from experience that's how it goes :wacko

5. Thank you :)
 
This project is just being kicked around at the moment as I'm not financially able to fund all of this, or have the props yet, but it would be nice to have another person in on it.
if you don't me asking how tall are you (just wandering if You could be a batman candidate :p )

The Armorer

If you were speaking to me, lol, I'm 5'11. I would like to help out in any way.. because I'm looking to do a Green Arrow fan film as well. If you would like to further the possible working partnership/discussion, PM me and I'l send you my email. Thanks. :)
 
which leads to the technical help, yes, I would very much appreciate that :)
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2. I remember the whole number ever panel thing from reading previous self help filmwriting books, but they never really went into that, I may need to look it up at the library about that ;)

When I get back to the lab I will forward you some info and some templates for your boards.
 
If you were speaking to me, lol, I'm 5'11. I would like to help out in any way.. because I'm looking to do a Green Arrow fan film as well. If you would like to further the possible working partnership/discussion, PM me and I'l send you my email. Thanks. :)

If all else, I'm never against coresponding with other artists with the same interests, I'll send you a pm ;)

When I get back to the lab I will forward you some info and some templates for your boards.

That would be very helpful, thanks Drew!

-Seth
 
Hey read though the forum. WOW you've gotten a looot (not to be confused with loot well I guess it can be) of information. So what's been going on?
 
A lot? Yeah, that can be a good summary :p I'll be reading up soon on storyboarding to better depict the story that has been written, then I'll post them up for approval, then maybe then, I'll be able to pull some people and props together for a short, then who knows from there :p

-Seth
 
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