Batman Fan Film Discussion. Updated 3/24 W/ storyboard beginning

Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

are you planning on modifying one of the existing designs or are you going to design something from scratch?
changes and modifications are not a bad thing in my opinion, but in the end it will come down to how good your design will be

It will be very influenced by the Arkham Asylum video games, but it will have real life and original elements to them that haven't been in any series (comic, film, game) before. I will be starting a facebook page for this very soon (I'll post a link when I get it up) and will have several concept pics up with it when it's up. I would like to say it's the solution to the crossover from comic to real life, without giving up too much of the comic world.

-The Armorer
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

It will be very influenced by the Arkham Asylum video games, but it will have real life and original elements to them that haven't been in any series (comic, film, game) before. I will be starting a facebook page for this very soon (I'll post a link when I get it up) and will have several concept pics up with it when it's up. I would like to say it's the solution to the crossover from comic to real life, without giving up too much of the comic world.

-The Armorer

I like that idea, I think the game brought back a bit of the detective work that got lost in the TV show.
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

I'm not much of a writer but I'm willing to travel to help out with whatever you need..prop guy, pretty face, etc
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

I'm glad you came back around to the redesign question, I woke up thinking about it and realized I hadn't tendered my comment.

First off, a soft redesign (which sounds like what you're talking about, I'm just making your point here) is cool. Gives it something unique and specific but it's still the thing we all know and identify.

The other question I meant to respond to was about whether or not to post those. Given that you have some drawing/illustrating skills, I think it could be some of the value you bring up front before there is anything shot to give a sense of who you are (in the abstract) and what kind of creative engine you will be for a project like this.

So I say yes to both, a little design adjustment, and presenting that to the public -- both in case someone has a good idea to enhance that you like, and as another tool to gather interest and crew.
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

if you want one episode per upload, i would use vimeo. its more serious for creative work, and less cat videos.
you arent allowed to make money with it anyway, so there is no reason to limit yourself to youtube :)
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

I like that idea, I think the game brought back a bit of the detective work that got lost in the TV show.

Batman to me has always been 'the world's greatest detective' with an intellect not too different than the new Sherlock Homes, and want to give him more of a character than the 'strike fear into the hearts of many' type that he has been carrying around for a while.

I'm not much of a writer but I'm willing to travel to help out with whatever you need..prop guy, pretty face, etc

At least I have one possible (in the flesh) helper with this :lol I'll get around to seeing your work and add you to the list of people to contact when we get around to doing it.

I'm glad you came back around to the redesign question, I woke up thinking about it and realized I hadn't tendered my comment.

First off, a soft redesign (which sounds like what you're talking about, I'm just making your point here) is cool. Gives it something unique and specific but it's still the thing we all know and identify.

The other question I meant to respond to was about whether or not to post those. Given that you have some drawing/illustrating skills, I think it could be some of the value you bring up front before there is anything shot to give a sense of who you are (in the abstract) and what kind of creative engine you will be for a project like this.

So I say yes to both, a little design adjustment, and presenting that to the public -- both in case someone has a good idea to enhance that you like, and as another tool to gather interest and crew.

I don't have much artwork as of yet (I'm just starting to learn the drawing tablet and Adobe Elements as well as digital art I'll be using to do the concepts) so you may have to wait for a collage of them, but you'll be getting them, just don't pull out the pitchforks and Molotovs when you see some of the design releases :lol , they aren't 'shocking' compared to other designs, but just, well original.


if you want one episode per upload, i would use vimeo. its more serious for creative work, and less cat videos.
you arent allowed to make money with it anyway, so there is no reason to limit yourself to youtube :)

I will definitely be looking into both policies of Youtube and Vimeo, but it looks like (just from the above comment) that I may be leaning towards vimeo if youtube will not allow longer run times, but that's a long away from here. Thanks :)

I'm currently working on concepts as well as story outlines, so just letting you know, I am delving into this, and trust me, it's going to be one fun headache weaving all of the elements I want into this!

-The Armorer
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

There's also blip.tv but I don't know anything about their policies.
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

I don't have much artwork as of yet (I'm just starting to learn the drawing tablet and Adobe Elements as well as digital art I'll be using to do the concepts) so you may have to wait for a collage of them, but you'll be getting them, just don't pull out the pitchforks and Molotovs when you see some of the design releases :lol , they aren't 'shocking' compared to other designs, but just, well original.
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-The Armorer

PM me if you run across Photoshop issues/questions... I got real help for that. And I'm totally not expecting shocking designs, I think that would go contrary to your interests.

Also, love your emphasis on his intellect and detection. Good stuff.
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

PM me if you run across Photoshop issues/questions... I got real help for that. And I'm totally not expecting shocking designs, I think that would go contrary to your interests.

Also, love your emphasis on his intellect and detection. Good stuff.

I think everyone was getting tired of the ol'

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Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

I think everyone was getting tired of the ol'

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I can't stop :lol:lol:lol:lol ...

Oh... Okay... Now I can breath :) Alright, now to be serious.

I started writing the episode outlines, when the original thought of this thread hit me again. Well, is there point without backing? I see a handful of people interested, but unless any of you guys have a few thousand dollars stuffed in the bottom of your couches to donate, is there, in your opinions, enough probability of a funding for this?

I know I don't really have a lot of cards to show in my favor, I'm just asking once again if it seems possible.

-The Armorer
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

I can't stop :lol:lol:lol:lol ...

Oh... Okay... Now I can breath :) Alright, now to be serious.

I started writing the episode outlines, when the original thought of this thread hit me again. Well, is there point without backing? I see a handful of people interested, but unless any of you guys have a few thousand dollars stuffed in the bottom of your couches to donate, is there, in your opinions, enough probability of a funding for this?

I know I don't really have a lot of cards to show in my favor, I'm just asking once again if it seems possible.

-The Armorer
youre going at this wrong.

do you want to make it? then there is no reason not to.
first of all, you have to enjoy doing it. dont do it for anyone else. do it for yourself. make something you want to do.
second, i have never seen anyone have sucess with their first project. thats just the nature of it. you have no experience, and even when youre reading up on everything, this is learning by doing. you can read a million articles about color correcting, until you havent done it 100 times, you will still have problems. same goes with everything else from setting up the camera right to synching up audio.

what i would suggest to you is: pick up a few friends, of which one has a smartphone of a newer generation. those are good enough for starting out to film. coreograph a fight scene with dialogue in the beginning. about 30 seconds. see how long it takes you to get that scene to look right, before even shooting. then shoot it from various angles.
when all of this is done, go into post production, and synch everything, add sound effects, cut everything together, grade it, etc.
when you are finished, upload your work to youtube and post it here, or on a filmmaking site (like the videocopilot forums) and let people tell you what you have done right and wrong.

that is the only way you will learn stuff for real. and money is not an excuse. once you have some work done, you can start doing some bigger projects. the advantage of this is, that your youtube account will also be expanded time wise.

continue writing your story, if you enjoy writing a story. dont let it be a chore. if you dont enjoy it, then its probably not for you.
Remember, this is your baby. you might as well do it right :)

just for reference, the video i posted that i did myself, was one of my first projects, and it took me more than two weeks to finish. now i could probably do it in 1 to 2 days
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

It's possible to make this with little backing, but if you're looking for something concrete then probably not. Because you're working off of a theory. Most of the stuff we know should work but it can easily fall through. However if you're flexible and try your best to work around and with obstacles than you never know, you may patch it up or again be delaying inevitable doom. But the biggest thing is to be flexible. Even with funding the project can still fall through.

EyeofSauron is right. You really want to change as much of this theory into fact as you can. Remember keep everything in mind aka on a list and do one or two things at a time. And if you can get a trailer, finished, show some concept art of the suits, a random video you made, villains, plot, or even if you're getting close with a camera guy or interested actors this would help your funding a lot. No one wants help with a suit they haven't seen, for a story they've never heard, to put on an unsized actor that doesn't exist.

But overall I'm kind of straying away from the main problem. No one is going to give you play money. No
one will send you thousands of dollars to buy costumes, cameras, programs and/or audio devices. Because there is absolutely no point of investing in you outside of entertaining your curiosity. What
you're really looking for is help. However the thing about help is, you help yourself first. This is your project, you should really start expecting to pull most of the weight.
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

"youre going at this wrong.

do you want to make it? then there is no reason not to.
first of all, you have to enjoy doing it. dont do it for anyone else. do it for yourself. make something you want to do.
second, i have never seen anyone have sucess with their first project. thats just the nature of it. you have no experience, and even when youre reading up on everything, this is learning by doing. you can read a million articles about color correcting, until you havent done it 100 times, you will still have problems. same goes with everything else from setting up the camera right to synching up audio.

what i would suggest to you is: pick up a few friends, of which one has a smartphone of a newer generation. those are good enough for starting out to film. coreograph a fight scene with dialogue in the beginning. about 30 seconds. see how long it takes you to get that scene to look right, before even shooting. then shoot it from various angles.
when all of this is done, go into post production, and synch everything, add sound effects, cut everything together, grade it, etc.
when you are finished, upload your work to youtube and post it here, or on a filmmaking site (like the videocopilot forums) and let people tell you what you have done right and wrong.

that is the only way you will learn stuff for real. and money is not an excuse. once you have some work done, you can start doing some bigger projects. the advantage of this is, that your youtube account will also be expanded time wise.

continue writing your story, if you enjoy writing a story. dont let it be a chore. if you dont enjoy it, then its probably not for you.
Remember, this is your baby. you might as well do it right

just for reference, the video i posted that i did myself, was one of my first projects, and it took me more than two weeks to finish. now i could probably do it in 1 to 2 days"

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The question isn't that I don't like it, I do, it's not what I was asking. I was asking if this kind of project -could- be funded. I have a lot of things going on, and priorities are making the scales swing, I was asking if this a realistic goal, given the fact and evidence, which I will be adding to very soon.

Projects are in the works. I'm waiting on a few friends to get back to me on their parts (the script is one) and I'll be doing PR myself tomorrow (if life complies). I agree I need to work hands on with these sorts of projects, delve deeper into this medium, but I'm stuck at a rock and a hard place, with no friends that are interested or capable of doing this, which was another reason for this thread.

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"It's possible to make this with little backing, but if you're looking for something concrete then probably not. Because you're working off of a theory. Most of the stuff we know should work but it can easily fall through. However if you're flexible and try your best to work around and with obstacles than you never know, you may patch it up or again be delaying inevitable doom. But the biggest thing is to be flexible. Even with funding the project can still fall through.

EyeofSauron is right. You really want to change as much of this theory into fact as you can. Remember keep everything in mind aka on a list and do one or two things at a time. And if you can get a trailer, finished, show some concept art of the suits, a random video you made, villains, plot, or even if you're getting close with a camera guy or interested actors this would help your funding a lot. No one wants help with a suit they haven't seen, for a story they've never heard, to put on an unsized actor that doesn't exist.

But overall I'm kind of straying away from the main problem. No one is going to give you play money. No
one will send you thousands of dollars to buy costumes, cameras, programs and/or audio devices. Because there is absolutely no point of investing in you outside of entertaining your curiosity. What
you're really looking for is help. However the thing about help is, you help yourself first. This is your project, you should really start expecting to pull most of the weight."

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I agree with just about all of that, of which one of the largest points is the help. I live in Indiana, not really close to Chicago or any major points of interests. Again, one of the points of this thread was to find others that would be in on helping me with creating this.

I wasn't asking for the money, I was asking if this idea was something that people (with concrete evidence) would support the production of. I cannot do every role (I'm not Monty Python), every crew operation, and every pre and post production aspect by myself, and right now, due to many painful/irritating circumstances that I am in right now, is the cause why I came to ask again if this idea was enough of an idea that warranted pounding into fact to put out for funding, yes, I know that it shouldn't matter, and that it's more than sounding like I'm a lazy bum who expects everything and everyone to do my work, but it's not, and it's a little more complicated than that as well, but I am ready and willing to do my share and beyond, but without seeing more than critiques and suggestions for how to make this it was proving difficult for me to see a large interest in this, other than "let's pound on the new guy" advice.

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1st step: write an outline for the series. Ready? GO!

Already on my way with that ;) .

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So in essence, I will be having the concept art (just sketches for the most, my ability to produce sketches and traditional media is proving to be very much more quick to digital art) very soon, and will be posting links to it and the page I have been putting together as well, it just won't be coming every hour, at regular intervals.

-Seth Lind
 
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You'll be fine, it's possible. Just keep moving forward.

You got plenty of help so far.

Randino (Not far from the area)
Sundowner Northern Indiana (help, prop guy, pretty face)
13doctorwho (tons of batman props)
heiro (Something like an assistamt director)
GothamCOmmand (Willing to come in for the right project)


Senfa (Has tried to make a webshow)
EYeofSauron (Made an trailer and awesome Kamehameha)
Justover6 (self-proclaimed story writer)

You're pretty close. A cam guy, a nice mic, with a film student and boom who knows. Heck the costume may even be a breeze.
 
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I don't have any real updates, but just wanted to let everyone know I didn't fall of the face of the planet :p

Those last ones are always the hardest to find, but luckily I have a plan to find them, it just is a matter of me completing the story and art direction now :)

Thanks for the continued interest.

-The Armorer
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

It's not just I am willing to come in for the right project...I am willing to offer help or answer any questions I can based on my schooling and real time working with film. I have yet to see my inbox produce a message so I shall remain to lurk around here checking out the wicked awesome builds and wonderfully creative people this site has.

My advice is go buy a cork board and some index cards and draw out some scenes that match your script...I can't stress the importance of storyboarding. I drew at least 400 cards in rough sketch showing a scene that was about 5 minutes long. When shown to both my class and professor there was no script needed to instill the events happening in my scene.

Also since nobody has said it that I have seen I will toss something out here for you. Most cities/towns in the US have this wonderful thing called public access television. The great thing about these places are is that if you don't mind spending anywhere from 4 to 12 hours for station rules (depending on the station), you can have access to HD cameras(Most times),mics,donated news equipment...ect ect...Most of the time they just ask to be allowed to display your content on the station and most likely (In my case it was 35 bucks) a small fee for yearly membership.

Again feel free to get a hold of me as I would love to see this series gain some life. Till then :popcorn
 
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I am defiantly interested. I act and do impressions all the time. Unfrtunatly I live in Colorado.
 
Re: Batman Live Action Fan Series. Any interest?

It's not technically concept art (due to the lack of drama), but here's my image of what the scarecrow would look like:

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The Armorer
 
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