cacador
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Let's face it, no one here probably liked these movies a whole lot. I just wanted to talk about the pros and cons of these movies and maybe see what could have been fixed to make them better. I've seen random comments on this in other threads and decided to make a dedicated topic for it. Please no talking about Star Trek, the new Star Wars movies, Michael Bay explosions, etc. Keep it to AVP and AVPR please.
I'm new to the forums so I will explain a little about myself so that my take on these films is understood a little more. I was born in '83 and Predator has been my favorite movie since it came out. P2 was fun but didn't have the same feel as the original. I wasn't much into comics but rather since I was an only child I grew up playing video games. I was hooked on the AVP PC games and even the AVP arcade game! As I got more into the series I eventually read some of the comics but not a lot. So my point of view entirely is from the movies and games and not a lot from the comics. If any one has a good resource site to purchase the comics I would appreciate it; would love to learn more! =D
I'd like to start with the cons of the movies to end on a good note with the pros.
AVP CONS: these are my major gripes with the film, I'm sure there are a lot of little ones but these stood out the most to me.
-PG-13
-Why is Weyland alive in this time period?
-The first Pred dying immediatley was fine but then the celtic immediatley after?
-The extra long tail on the alien.
-The plasmacaster used to hunt aliens? They are horrible for that(based from video games).
-The last predator not realizing he has an embryo in him yet he detcts one inside of the scientist.
-The queen running like a damn T-Rex and not very bug like as in the Aliens film.
-The look of the predator after removing his bio. Too many teeth and I'm not a fan of the mandibles stretching out as far as they did when roaring.
-The OMG are they going to make out scene.
-Stiff movements from the predator actors, they should have been more graceful and fluid in movement like KPH.
AVP PROS: What I thought the movie did bring positvely to the series.
-The storyline. I thought it tied well to real world culture as far as civilizations being wiped out.
-The new bios and weapons. Chopper preds, celtic preds, shirukans, pretty awesome!
-The ever changing temple. Unpredictability, the way preds would want it.
AVPR CONS:
-The storyline. I doubt the predators would have let a contaminated body onto their ship and as I saw in a thread some where "Leave out the Dawson's Creek crap and just show some action".
-The sheriff walking into wolf in the forest.
-Predalien feeding embryos into people. I might have missed this in a comic somewhere?
AVPR PROS:
-Great character acting from who played wolf. He had a real sense of the predator.
-The feel of the movie. It brought back the original movies. The forest with the predator, the dark enclosed sewer with the aliens, the city in chaos from P2, and the strong female role as in the Alien series.
-Again, the new toys the pred had. Although I thought they were proximity mines at first. =(
-The blonde girl getting a gruesome death, those kids deserved to die. You know it, I know it, the predator didn't, we just got lucky.
-The score. The music was closer to the original movies than the first AVP.
In summation it looks like I liked AVPR a little more. Please don't ban me. I strongly believe it is because of the portrayal of the predator and not the actual film. The predators in AVP looked horrible with out bios and moved nothing like predators should. The video games captured these things better.
Your turn to post what you liked and didn't like about these two films.
I'm new to the forums so I will explain a little about myself so that my take on these films is understood a little more. I was born in '83 and Predator has been my favorite movie since it came out. P2 was fun but didn't have the same feel as the original. I wasn't much into comics but rather since I was an only child I grew up playing video games. I was hooked on the AVP PC games and even the AVP arcade game! As I got more into the series I eventually read some of the comics but not a lot. So my point of view entirely is from the movies and games and not a lot from the comics. If any one has a good resource site to purchase the comics I would appreciate it; would love to learn more! =D
I'd like to start with the cons of the movies to end on a good note with the pros.
AVP CONS: these are my major gripes with the film, I'm sure there are a lot of little ones but these stood out the most to me.
-PG-13
-Why is Weyland alive in this time period?
-The first Pred dying immediatley was fine but then the celtic immediatley after?
-The extra long tail on the alien.
-The plasmacaster used to hunt aliens? They are horrible for that(based from video games).
-The last predator not realizing he has an embryo in him yet he detcts one inside of the scientist.
-The queen running like a damn T-Rex and not very bug like as in the Aliens film.
-The look of the predator after removing his bio. Too many teeth and I'm not a fan of the mandibles stretching out as far as they did when roaring.
-The OMG are they going to make out scene.
-Stiff movements from the predator actors, they should have been more graceful and fluid in movement like KPH.
AVP PROS: What I thought the movie did bring positvely to the series.
-The storyline. I thought it tied well to real world culture as far as civilizations being wiped out.
-The new bios and weapons. Chopper preds, celtic preds, shirukans, pretty awesome!
-The ever changing temple. Unpredictability, the way preds would want it.
AVPR CONS:
-The storyline. I doubt the predators would have let a contaminated body onto their ship and as I saw in a thread some where "Leave out the Dawson's Creek crap and just show some action".
-The sheriff walking into wolf in the forest.
-Predalien feeding embryos into people. I might have missed this in a comic somewhere?
AVPR PROS:
-Great character acting from who played wolf. He had a real sense of the predator.
-The feel of the movie. It brought back the original movies. The forest with the predator, the dark enclosed sewer with the aliens, the city in chaos from P2, and the strong female role as in the Alien series.
-Again, the new toys the pred had. Although I thought they were proximity mines at first. =(
-The blonde girl getting a gruesome death, those kids deserved to die. You know it, I know it, the predator didn't, we just got lucky.
-The score. The music was closer to the original movies than the first AVP.
In summation it looks like I liked AVPR a little more. Please don't ban me. I strongly believe it is because of the portrayal of the predator and not the actual film. The predators in AVP looked horrible with out bios and moved nothing like predators should. The video games captured these things better.
Your turn to post what you liked and didn't like about these two films.