AVP 2 news...

Seriously everyone. Does anyone actually believe there is common sense in Hollywood when it comes to quality filmmaking? We wouldn't see 90% of the movies we do if studio execs actually took the time to think a movie through. All of us know what works and what doesn't. Opinions might change from person to person, but across the board, most of us like the direction the original Predator films went and at least the first 2 Alien films.

AVP was ONLY made to cash in on an exisiting franchise. No studio could care less what fans actually think beyond getting money from them. That's just the way it is. They throw something together to make money. PERIOD! Obviously it needs to be "good enough" to sell the tickets, but the true fans only make up a small fraction of a single % of those tickets. They're aren't 2 million members on this board after all.

Occasionally, an exec somewhere might have a brain fart and realize that a script is actually good. But how often does that happen? I can count on one hand the number of films I'm proud to say I've worked on which is pretty bad considering I have over 200 mainstream film and tv credits on my resume. That's Hollywood for you. All of us in the industry (not just FX, but film in general) want to change it, but unfortunately, our opinions aren't any more respected than anbody elses. You get to a point where you can only do the best work possible within the restraints that are put on you.

On that note, can you blame them even, the studios that is? Everyone has opinions about how lousy these films have gotten, yet we all keep seeing them, and we all keep buying the DVDs. From a business standpoint, the studio machine isn't broken. It's already been said in this thread. AVP made more money than any other film in the franchises.

In the end, we should all look to these movies for what they are and the inspiration they bring us, not to point fingers and lay blame for why they aren't better. We need to stop worrying about the could haves and should haves and accept the reality that most movies will suck on some level and not everyone is gonna be happy no matter what. Wouldn't most of you rather see an average AVP than no AVP? I cetainly would.

There is obviously plenty of creativity here. Why dwell on the lack of creativity of a few other people who aren't really trying to be creative in the first place. They aren't about the characters we all love. They're about the $ they can get from us.

Hopefully one day, one of us will win the lottery and do one of these films right, without studio intereference and politics. In the mean time don't turn our passion into something negative to complain about. Think positive, be creative, and better yourselves rather than follow their example.

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This thread has gotten seriously off topic. I'm guilty of that as well. Larry only wanted to let everyone know that AVP2 has started and IS happening as we speak and that when the appropriate time comes, you'll possibly have some first hand details about it.
 
Excellent post.
That pretty much sums it up.
I'll always welcome a new Pred film...good or bad.
Larry
 
i second that.......bring on AVP2,good bad or ugly.....
it may or may not be the holy grail,it may or may not satisfy the fan-boys,but hey,at the end of the day,.its another installment of pred/alien action.
im stoked that the studios are giving this another installment.
thanks to the guys & gals at fox who are doing this,
it'll be a fun ride for us all looking at sneeky peeks,and tid-bits along the way (a great way to keep us all motivated,and working on our projects ?!!)
and when all is said & done,we'll al have a few new collectibles to purchase,a new AVP dvd to add to our collections,and the chance to see predators battling aliens once more.....im keen for round 2.lets hope that .....
"this time,its war !!"
 
I really liked AVP, and hope AVP2 is at least as good. Something else to consider about the AVP movie is the forward momentum of the Predator merchandising. Lots of cool stuff from Sideshow that we are all enjoying now. From what I have read the suits at Fox are looking to really merchandise AVP2, which means more cool stuff in the upcoming marketplace. Nothing but good news as far as I'm concerned. Bring it on!
 
heres another angle.....
i saw predator years ago,and loved it.
when i saw AVP,i walked out of the theatre very happy,because i could go home and safely tell my nine year old son,that when AVP hit dvd,he and i could watch it together.
not only did AVP make money for fox,supply us older fans with new (totally cool) collectibles to collect,......but it captured the imaginations of a new generation of fans. !!!!!
personally,i get tired of the over-use of "harsh language" in films.lex's line..."i hope it kills every ****Kin one of em" is in my opinion an un-nessecary use of crap english.
i watched AVP with my son & daughter at least 3 times together when it came out on dvd.(its the first time my son said a movie was "cool") good memories for us.
 
oops,just reading my post,and realised ive helped to take this thread waaay off topic.
(sorry andrew !!.....doh !!)
 
Being a Predator/Alien fan since the early eighties(Alien) and Predator(late eighties) I was very excited back in 1992(high school) when the Dark Horse comic saga came out. It made me realize the potential and I was inspired. Since then the story was kicked around and I always read my Peter Biggs AVP script and hoped that one day it would hit the big screen word for word. Well it never did and it's a cinematic tragedy that that script was never filmed. Unfortunately Fox and the screen writers of AVP recognized the great script that was shelved and used many of the elements for their film. Unfortunately the problems, and there are many, with AVP are mosely VISUAL... The director never had a true grasp on the original idea(from the comics) Everyone says that this clash of Titans was an idea thrown together to make a quick buck... Most of them never even knew how old the concept was and never even heard of the comic. That being said they can never film Peter's script because many of his ideas were used for AVP but just weren ot well executed, which made some scenes seem corny... Like the "PredaFriend" approach, which was in the comic, was kinda lost in the movie... In the comic that relationship was well established and executed. The scene at the end was straight outta the comic but just didn't have the punch. Lex(or Machicko) was accepted by the hunter tribe and they later come back to take here along on a hunt which would have been a very interesting AVP2, introducing Top Knot and seeing the Pred world and witnessing the capture of a Queen Xeno and witnessing jealousy among the young Yautja because the Human presence...All these things would have made a better film. The most terrifing part of the original comic and Peter's script was the total infestation of Aliens that occures not to mention the rogue Preds that go against the code. Broken Tusk's allience with the human's means more and the danger is way larger due to the Thousands of Aliens attacking the Weyland Yutani compound. I just hope with a new movie comes more respect to the lore of these characters because I am tired of the lack of attention paid to the details in these more recent films.

I still want to be in it
please someone find me a casting director, is it Burrows again?

Travis
 
I just pulled up AVP2 news, maybe someone covered this already, but it's new to me. . Best thing.....RATED R!
 
where did you read that? iv ebeen looking but havent found it.
 
Hahahaha... K-Mart. There's a blue-light special on DEATH.

That script I believe was scrapped. It was shot down on here, and I think someone took notice. First of all, at the end of AVP the ship CLEARLY flies off.

I just verped.
 
Everyone said AVP made more money...What was the price of a ticket when the last pred movie was out? Kmart is the Predators home base on earth.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing some new predator designs. Maybe cool new weapons. Complain all you guys want to, but you know you'll go see it. Tickets cost more now, but also making a movie costs more as well.
 
Hey Rob... a least if its at Kmart the preds can go up against Martha Stewart.

Then they can change the line to.. "you are one ugly martha ****er".
 
damn that was funny rob,
maybe they will go for a G rating and have it at chucky cheese.
 
HAHAHAHAHA

Rob and Andrew crack me up. "We have a spillin isle 4, be warned, toxic and acidic substance spilled" LOL Hey maybe after the pred ship crashes, the aliens will apologize for the incident and the pred and alien hold hands and go skipping off to Chucky Cheese.

Of all places, Texas. Bunch of Cowboys running around trying to lasso and alien, this should be fun to watch.

KEITH
 
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