Avengers Movie SPOILER Thread

Re: The avengers what did you think?

So, let me see if I have this correct. You are telling me to go to the spoiler thread b/c not everyone has seen it?? On a thread entitled, "The avengers what did you think?", seriously?!!! AND I didn't ask what it was just if there might be a reason to stick around after credits...
 
Re: The avengers what did you think?

Anyone doing the Marvel marathon on Thursday? A friend and I are doing it. 13 hours of sitting on our butts watching all the Marvel films, then the Avengers at midnight. I hope I can stay awake!
 
Not trying to beat down the one person who has a different opinion of the film...

But I've not long come home from my fourth viewing of the film and I think I've had a chance to ponder the potential 'holes' you are pointing out.

1) It's what Coulson represented to them personally. He's obviously worked with Fury, Hawkeye and Black widow for some time so there's no need to get into that... But for Stark he is a personal connection to the chaos unfolding around him. I thought the scene with Pepper backed up by the brief bonding 'I'll fly you to Portland' explained this. And for Cap; Coulson seemed to remind him that despite all that had changed there were still some familiar 'giving' types of people worth fighting for. Hell; the 'we aren't soldiers' conversation between Stark and Rogers spells all this out!

2) Yes. He's Loki and he probably could have outsmarted the hulk (despite his obvious desperation). But this scene alone will have me shelling out the cost of another ticket. It's just sheer pay off for comic fans, and one of the moments everybody who walks out of the theatre has to talk about.

3) I thought that the Pepper scenes represented some kind of character growth for Stark... Leading up to his intended sacrifice with the missile. He tries to call her when he knows he isn't coming back if you remember correctly...

4) Honestly was giving the Avengers all my attention and couldn't have given a crap what they were fighting - it was the interactions while they did it that I enjoyed.

5) And the argument was supposed to seem irrational and forced. It was Loki's doing. Why the hell do you think he was sitting in the Hulk tank grinning? He allowed himself to be apprehended. And if anybody still has any doubt about this one, the upside-down inside-out camera rotation about the staff was pretty much Whedon spelling it out for you.


And I've spent a long time trying to figure out the Banner/Hulk thing. I think it has a bit to do with the 'green eyes' shot at the end of TIH. Banner perhaps comes to the realisation that he and the hulk are both always there (he's always angry). So sometimes the Hulk takes over and smashing happens (Hulk chasing Widow and Banner picking up the staff) and at other times Banner manges to have a limited amount of control (not smashing avengers, protecting Betty Ross etc). Makes sense to me anyway.

I think I'm the only one that didn't love this movie. Seeing this is the spoiler thread, I'll mention a few scenes that just didn't work for me:

1) Agent (Phil) Paulson's death: How doesn't the death of 80 people in two days get the Avengers together, but the death of Agent Paulson (at best a marginal character) does? While he was a constant in the other movies, he was never an important character. In this movie he just met Cap and Banner. While he knew Black Widow and Hawkeye, we never knew how well. He was a marginal character in the movie Thor. The only Avenger his death would have had an impact on was Tony Stark. The only reasons he was killed off was to make room for Agent Hill.

Loki: C'mon, he's a GOD. How can Hulk even grab him (remember, Thor gets suckered by an illusion of Loki earlier in the movie?), much less beat the crap out of him? Why do Selvig and Hawkeye just stand there and let Loki touch them with his staff?

Thor arriving back on earth: At the end of "Thor" he was unable to get back to earth, watching Jane Foster from afar, but in this movie he's able to get to earth to get Loki back.

Pepper Potts: Not sure why she was even in the movie. She just had a few scenes with a few throw away lines.

The aliens: Forgettable, overly designed, mindless killing machines. Just boring.

The argument between the Avengers in the lab: seemed forced, awkward. It was unclear why they were mad at each other. Was it the staff, was it because they found out Shield's plans for the cube? The fact viewers have to wonder about the reason is a problem.

Black Widow bargaining with Loki: Man, that was just hard to watch. It was far from convincing.

Did I hate the movie? No, but I really expected more.
 
Re: The avengers what did you think?

So, let me see if I have this correct. You are telling me to go to the spoiler thread b/c not everyone has seen it?? On a thread entitled, "The avengers what did you think?", seriously?!!! AND I didn't ask what it was just if there might be a reason to stick around after credits...

This is not a spoiler thread so nobody on here wants to spoil anything for the rest of the other people. And to answer your question, yes there is something in the middle of the credits, stick around when the credits roll. There is nothing at the END of the credits, only the middle of the credits, don't believe false rumors out there about a second after-credit scene added after the world premiere.
 
Re: The avengers what did you think?

Anyone doing the Marvel marathon on Thursday? A friend and I are doing it. 13 hours of sitting on our butts watching all the Marvel films, then the Avengers at midnight. I hope I can stay awake!

That's hardcore. I did my movie marathon yesterday and I was exhausted after the 5th movie.
 
Re: The avengers what did you think?

There are only mid-credit scènes post-credit scènes Will come later they said.

GOod news :p new Hulk movie in 2015 because of fan reactions on rufallos performance !
 
Re: The avengers what did you think?

There are only mid-credit scènes post-credit scènes Will come later they said.

GOod news :p new Hulk movie in 2015 because of fan reactions on rufallos performance !

I repeat, there is NO after-credit scene in the movie, ONLY a mid-credit scene. They are not adding another scene after a movie has already been publicly released internationally.

"They" were rumor-spreading fans, folks at Marvel Studios have made it very clear that no extra scenes will be added.
 
Re: The avengers what did you think?

Then THE after credit scènes are ment for THE bluray cause there is something they are not telling US :p
 
I think this is about the 'rumoured' additional credit scene the RDJ mentioned on the red carpet. As far as I know, it doesn't exist, it was a joke...

+1, I saw it through a private screening last week, 99% sure this is the same version the international folks saw for their release, there is NO added scenes. Kevin Fiege clarified that what RDJ was shooting after the world premiere was some re-shoots for the film that he said most people wouldn't even notice the difference.

I saw the movie the first time with the Facebook city screening 3 weeks ago and whatever they changed, I didn't notice it at all the second time around.
 
My take on a few of your complaints. The Coulson one I felt was more than adequately addressed by other people.

Loki & Hulk - It's a comic book movie... and the scene worked for 99.9% of the audience. And Selvig and Hawkeye were powerless anyway, what could they do?

Thor's entry - EXTREMELY glossed over, one of my biggest complaints. They should've SHOWN it rather than TALK about it. But I got over it quickly once Thor and Iron Man went at it. And when Thor talks to Loki, it's made very clear that sending Thor took a major toll on Odin, so for a global crisis it's worth a go, but not exactly something Odin wants to go through say if Thor wants to go on a date with Jane.

Pepper - I loved how they restored the banter and chemistry that she and Stark had in IM and completely missed in IM2. Romantic interest was to humanize the characters more and IM is the biggest seller of the Big 4. They capitalized on IM's self-sacrifice towards the end by showing who he had to lose when he was trying to call Pepper, so that worked for me.

Aliens - Target practice, but that worked for me. The action scenes were still amazing and I couldn't care about creating more depth for the alien invaders. Another major complaint I have was the cop-out of how destroying their command center effectively killed all the aliens, but I got over that quickly too.

Argument scene - I put my take on that scene in my earlier posts, and I'm still not 100% clear on it despite having seen it twice. What I can determine (and confirmed by other people who've seen it) is Loki had Banner under a spell to make him lose control, but there's less consensus on the minor details surrounding that scene. Not sure if Loki's spear plays a role and was getting the rest of the room agitated, everyone clearly had enough beef to start fighting each other even without any magic involved. My take on Banner grabbing Loki's spear is because that was the closest weapon, not necessarily because the spear was making him do anything. Whatever people thought about that scene, what the audience needed to understand was Loki manipulated Banner to get him to Hulk out and that was all we needed to move on with the story. Banner then shows he has a good amount of control over the Hulk during the final battle, so his first Hulk transformation and subsequent mindless rampage was Loki's doing. I agree that this entire scene could've been fleshed out better to make things more clear, but the story moves on w/o any major hitches once we understand that Banner was Loki's play there.

BW-Loki - I agree that parts of this scene felt forced, but bottomline is we got to see how BW is manipulative and how Loki is much more deranged since events of Thor. The scene overall worked enough for me and I moved on.

Loki: C'mon, he's a GOD. How can Hulk even grab him (remember, Thor gets suckered by an illusion of Loki earlier in the movie?), much less beat the crap out of him? Why do Selvig and Hawkeye just stand there and let Loki touch them with his staff?

Thor arriving back on earth: At the end of "Thor" he was unable to get back to earth, watching Jane Foster from afar, but in this movie he's able to get to earth to get Loki back.

Pepper Potts: Not sure why she was even in the movie. She just had a few scenes with a few throw away lines.

The aliens: Forgettable, overly designed, mindless killing machines. Just boring.

The argument between the Avengers in the lab: seemed forced, awkward. It was unclear why they were mad at each other. Was it the staff, was it because they found out Shield's plans for the cube? The fact viewers have to wonder about the reason is a problem.

Black Widow bargaining with Loki: Man, that was just hard to watch. It was far from convincing.
 
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Saw it in Iceland on Saturday. I liked that Pepper was in the movie because it instantly corrected one of the dumb mistakes they made in Iron Man 2 - which was that Tony and Pepper weren't together - something they set up in IM1 and then pretended like it didn't exist in IM2.

I was quite happy with those short scenes for that reason alone.

I really liked the movie. Great action, great one liners. I was bummed when Norton wasn't chosen to go on as Banner but Ruffalo knocked it outta the park (understatement). Was so fun to see it in Iceland with an amped up crowd. They love Thor there!
 
It's the greatest superhero film I've seen so far. For the first time I had the feeling I was seeing an actual major event comic coming to life. If somebody could kick those schlemiels at DC and Warner into waking up and do something like that with their properties ...
 
Re: The avengers what did you think?

Just home from cinema - Joss Whedon DID IT! YESSSS!
Had some *minor* second thoughts before watching the movie, mostly due to some costume-issues and reported television-like framing & staging of the action. Some of this holds true, but Whedon manages to deliver on all other levels. Great character moments, great action, dead pan humor - the whole audience went nuts on some punch-lines! ('punch' being the literal one in some cases) Also love the score by Alan Silvestri! *fan*
'The Avengers' is all kinds of awesome and a helluvalot of fun, the comic-book movie one could only wish for! :love
 
Re: The avengers what did you think?

Anyone doing the Marvel marathon on Thursday? A friend and I are doing it. 13 hours of sitting on our butts watching all the Marvel films, then the Avengers at midnight. I hope I can stay awake!


Picked my tickets up for it yesterday! I'll definitely be slamming some redbull!
 
Captain: We need a plan of attack!
Iron Man: I have a plan...attack!

I actually have taken off work to make the midnight premiere. I'm such a nerd..lol.
 
. I liked that Pepper was in the movie because it instantly corrected one of the dumb mistakes they made in Iron Man 2 - which was that Tony and Pepper weren't together - something they set up in IM1 and then pretended like it didn't exist in IM2.

They kissed at the end of IM2
 
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Just reserved my tickets for my local IMAX. Really looking forward to this and VERY thankful that it is getting such great reviews! Makes me even more pumped for it!
 
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