Avengers Movie SPOILER Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment and Movie Talk' started by MooCriket, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. MooCriket

    MooCriket Master Member

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    I don't mind being spoiled. If you've seen the movie already, then you know there is a lot of win to talk about:love

    Like this...
    Chitauri - Marvel Comics Database
     
  2. Wes R

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    Ah that makes sense since this isn't the main Marvel Universe but based on the Ultimates universe. There is also a version of these bad guys in the Ultimates animated movies that Marvel put out.
     
  3. JD

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    I sure don't see the movies as based on the Ultimates universe - Thor and Iron Man's origins have little to do with what's happened in the Ultimate Universe. Ultimate Cap is a bit of an * - and the movie Cap is nothing like that...

    Could go on... but, the Marvel Movie U is definitely it's own thing.
     
  4. dbalschi

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    I've always thought of the Marvel movies as being based more on the Ultimates Universe. Why else would they have Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury?
     
  5. MooCriket

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    I love the fact that the Hulk has so much going on in this. Finally! Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the Norton Hulk, but all indications point to the fact that we have finally got one bad * Hulk.

    I'm pretty excited about the extreme possibility of seeing Thanos in the next film.
     
  6. JD

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    There are strong ties to both Marvel Universes...

    Iron Man's movie origin is absolutely nothing like the Ultimate origin.

    Cap's story is similar no matter which story you read - but, the U-Cap is a cocky arrogant SOB.

    Movie Thor isn't a whole lot like either comic Thor. The lack of Donald Blake has ties to U-Thor - but, there's not a whole lot else that really that I feel links the two.

    The Hulk storlyline started The Ultimates when Banner injected himself with the Super Soldier serum and the heroes unite to stop him. Banner was already working with SHIELD... and from what we've seen so far, Banner is already the Hulk and he's recruited by the Black Widow.

    ...and well, Sam Jackson is U-Nick Fury. No if's and's or but's about it. He is the most obvious and biggest tie to the Marvel Ultimate Universe.

    So, yeah... I think the movie guys are picking and choosing what they want to use and making quite a bit of it up as they go. It would seem if the Chitauri are the Avengers villians that Joss and his group of merry Marvel moviemakers are taking liberally from the Ultimate Universe.

    But, I think the Marvel Movie Universe is it's own very unique thing with strong ties to both Marvel comic book worlds.

    All that said, I think I want to be avoid more direct spoilers... so I might not read this thread again until May 5 or 6.
     
  7. MooCriket

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    I'm glad Wedon likes LOTR.
     
  8. MooCriket

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    I like the bracelets Tony has, hopefully we will be able to get a close up shot soon. I knew something was up when they showed the close up when he was talking to Loki.

    On a side note, Powers Booth?! Wolverines!!!
     
  9. Wes R

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    I agree the movie universe seems to have borrowed from the Ultimates universe and the original universe. Then again they've butchered the universes so much you never know if this could become another comic universe itself. I still need to see Cap America, i have to laugh that Johnny Storm is also playing Captain America.
     
  10. JD

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    Dammit... I had to go and read a site clearly labeled spoilers (I was actually looking for spoilers for another upcoming movie).

    So, remember this thread is marked spoilers.... so no spoiler hiding.


    You've been warned.

    Seriously.



    Apparently, Coulson does die. And there is a chance he comes back as The Vision (this might the be the post-credit sequence they filmed last week).
     
  11. aeonpulse

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    I've read other rumors describing a completely different post-credit sequence, involving Thanos. Maybe they're filming multiple post-credit scenes, like they did with Wolverine: Origins?

    Or maybe these rumors are all bull####.
     
  12. JD

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    The Thanos bit was also mentioned as a possibility along with the Vision bit.

    Either way, Coulson apparently doesn't make it out of Avengers alive... well, at least human-alive.
     
  13. third3ye

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    Since the entire thread is spoiler tagged I guess I'll jump in with my thoughts as well.

    I'm not buying the reviving Coulson as Vision rumor out there, just sounds so cheesy and I can't see Marvel Studios pulling the trigger on that direction. I'm also not buying the speculation that Fury faked his death along with the blood on card trick to get the team motivated as that doesn't pan out logically on a couple different fronts. Plus any chance of 'reviving' Coulson in any shape or form just blatantly ruins the drama impact his death had on the characters in the film. For those who want to see Coulson alive, just keep watching Ultimate Spiderman on Sundays instead, I'm about 99% sure he stays dead in the movies.

    As for the extra RDJ shooting after the world premiere last Wednesday, I think that's going to be IM3 related only. That's the next movie due and any significant role Thanos will have in the MCU will only happen several years down the road in Avengers 2 probably. That's probably why Fiege and the studio decided to shoot another scene, because that teaser doesn't really create enough buzz for their upcoming slate in 2013 and 2014. Maybe Thor and Cap have a role in that scene as some people have guessed, but I think that's huge stretch for either one to be featured in the scene as the other characters will require a separate scene.

    Or RDJ was just playing a huge prank on all of us with that comment, haha.
     
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  14. aeonpulse

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    And who exactly is Vision? I'm only vaguely familiar with him. Wasn't he some sort of android that could control energy and time travel...? Or something?
     
  15. MooCriket

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    Nah. Son of Coul will live. Fury * everyone off from what I've read and Shield builds weapons just like Red Skull did that use the power of the cube. It would not be out of the relm of possibility for him to use Coulson as a method to get the Avengers to work together.

    I hope I am right. Vision does not really make sense for Coulson.
     
  16. MooCriket

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  17. nlschutd

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    The avengers what did you think?

    just went to the cinema and this movie is the best i have ever seen! cgi is perfect and story is great! each caracter got enough screen time !

    i will not tell anything about the movie till it's out every were:)

    going again tonight and saturday :p so it's a hit to how good this movie realy is
     
  18. JoMamma_Smurf

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    Re: The avengers what did you think?

    Did they show a new Dark Knight Rises trailer???
     
  19. nlschutd

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    nope they w8 till it's out world wide they did show the version everybody knows they showed prometheus and spiderman also ( spiderman looks okey in 3d swinging through the street :p )
     
  20. Berserk

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    Hulk and Loki!!! Best movie scene ever.
     
  21. nlschutd

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    yup :p you know it haha
     
  22. third3ye

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    Re: The avengers what did you think?

    I saw it 2 weeks ago, I'm seeing it again tomorrow, and I'll be watching it again on the midnight screening next Thursday. THAT'S how amazing this movie is. By far the most entertaining movie I've seen in ages.
     
  23. Monster Dave

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    ^Holy-cow that's a lot of viewings!!

    At current cinema prices in the us, even going alone, that's quite a bit of $$$
     
  24. MooCriket

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  25. Berserk

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    Poor Coulson R.I.P.
     
  26. nlschutd

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    it's a shame they did not explane why thor's hammer got another handle. the part that the hulk changes in the city and punches that thing in to the ground was great!
     
  27. nickytea

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    How much of a shame, really?
     
  28. Pannaus Props

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    the movie wins. seen last night.
    hulk is soooooooo epic...makes you do a ton of laughs...the scene with loki is one of the best ever :D
     
  29. nlschutd

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    wel it's strange that you see something different on something that's so ancient. with the stark suits they explain why he changes it. but no worries it's just a small detail thing :p

    i liked how captain america worked together with shiel and iron mans beam:p


     
  30. n0regret5

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    serious spoilers.... DON'T READ IT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE. this movie is not worth wasting on spoilers. you have to see it with fresh eyes.

    ok. what got me was: why did bruce pick up the spear?.... maybe a cut part of the movie, it kinda happened and then bam hulk is getting seven shades of s*** beaten out of him by thor and you never hear anything about it again.... my boss was saying maybe it was the hulk reacting, wanting to use it or smash it, I dunno.

    god I can NOT wait till this is available.
     
  31. third3ye

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    I didn't quite fully understand that part at first either but it was supposed to show that Banner was getting angry and starting to lose control of himself, so he subconsciously picked up the spear. I initially thought that maybe Loki planted something in the spear to help make Bruce go Hulk but Loki's plan was simply to get caught and keep SHIELD busy while Hawkeye went to steal the iridium. I don't think there was anything fishy going on with his spear, they threw that in there to simply show Banner was getting more and more upset and to add to the tension between amongst the Avengers.

    Or maybe Loki wanted Banner to go Hulk and so there was something in the spear as BW was able to get Loki to admit that Hulk was part of his plans. I'll keep an eye out when I see it again tonight.
     
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  32. third3ye

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    Re: The avengers what did you think?

    Well 2 of those screenings were free... :)
     
  33. Uhtred18

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    Without doubt the best movie I have seen as far as I remember, I couldnt fault a single thing. Loved Hulk and Thor!
     
  34. Uhtred18

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    To be honest, I think the spear had some sort of influence over them all. Like it was making them all short tempered and making them argue with each other. If this was the case, then it explains why Loki intentially got captured, as he probably knew Banner would be in close proximity to it, increasing the chance of him Hulking out.

    Therefore, he unconsciously picked it up because it wanted him to...

    Thats my theory anyway
     
  35. CJ 617

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    Loved it!!!! Loved every bit....will go see it again
     
  36. aeonpulse

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    Argh! You guys are killing me! I still have to wait a whole week before I can see it!
     
  37. rodneyfaile

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    You guys are really getting my hopes up!

    So Joss Whedon knocked it out of the park?
     
  38. bignatedegg56

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    I thought during the scene with the spear Loki seemed to be listening to what was being said and possibly had some form of influence over Banner similar to in the extra scene at the end of Thor where he seems to be controlling Selvig.
    also the bracelets Stark put on, i think, are leading into them using the Extremis storyline in IM3.
    but other than that IT'S FREAKING EPIC with a capital OMG!
    can't wait till Sunday so I can go see it again!
     
  39. msldkdk

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    The movie had an overwhelming amount of action put into it. By far the most intense action movie made to date. Many funny quotes through the movie, and Hulk was smashin'.
     
  40. Chris27989

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    this is the best movie I've ever seen and lots of props now i want!!

    Ironman:
    RDJ plays his usual role of the "billionaire, playboy, philanthropist" but you see an new side of selflessness

    Captain America:
    Brilliantly played by Evans! I love how they have kept the 40's look on him in the modern world!

    Thor:
    Not as much screen time as I thought he'd have but a brilliant on screen relationship with the Hulk

    Hulk:
    All I can say is I wish Mark Ruffalo played the Hulk in the first two movies as he plays Banner superbly!!
     
  41. renaissance_man

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    Re: The avengers what did you think?

    Just saw it in IMAX 3D, and I LOVED IT!

    I will definetly be going to see it again, but in 2D, primarily because of cost, not as a reflection of the quality of the 3D.

    To the rest of the world who have yet to see, this I think, or should I say hope you love it, because Marvel are really firing on all cylinders now, and I pray for more output from them in the coming years.

    Suit up!
     
  42. crabra comander

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    This is sounding like a shoe in for action flick of the year...
     
  43. RickGreerUK

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    Have to agree with the above, IMAX 3D was awesome. Full cinema, lots of laughs, tons of action. One bit early on with Banner that scared the bejesus out of me.

    It's a home run, don't worry about it letting you down or overhype, just go there and enjoy it, you will!
     
  44. redbridge1

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    Absolutely unreal......

    puny god!!!!!!!!
     
  45. DOORMANMATT

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    Laughed so hard at this and the cheap shot on Thor!
     
  46. Vivek

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    The second half of The Avengers is filled with such fantastic action, it indeed has more action than all Marvel movies combined. Joss Whedon crafted the team conflict so well and balanced it out with such brilliant humour.

    And though some characters managed to steal the show, Whedon showed the importance of every character and gave them their moment to shine on multiple occasions. As a comic fan there were times while watching Avengers I couldn't believe I am getting to see these comic characters come to life all together like that.

    And one of the best things about opening day is the enthusiastic crowd, who cheered right from the title sequence and during every character's intro scene.

    There is a moment in the film where Alan Silvestri's awesome main Assemble theme music kicks in during that surround shot of the Avengers, I had almost tears of joy during that brief moment. Also the audience really cheered at that scene (among many others).

    And the 3D for The Avengers was really impressive, also maybe it was cause of the proper bright light conditions. It is one of the best live action 3D experience I had.
     
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  47. third3ye

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    Ok guys I watched it again last night and here's my take on the Banner grabbing Loki's 'boomstick of destiny' deal.

    When Loki is captured and escorted by SHIELD soldiers in the Helicarrier, there's that slo-mo scene where he stares at Banner and he smiles at him. Banner is staring back and at the end of the scene, he takes off his glasses and has to rub the bridge of his nose, showing that Loki puts a spell on him at that point and it slowly starts to make him lose until he goes Hulk on the Helicarrier. Him grabbing the spear during the argument helps to show that he's losing control in an uncanny manner.

    It's not entirely clear if the spear plays a role in all this. When the spear was glowing while everyone was arguing in the room, it was to signal to Hawkeye the Helicarrier's location. Now maybe the spear and Loki's spell go hand-in-hand to influence Banner into losing control, but if so I believe its effects are only on Banner and not the rest of the team. It would downplay the tensions among the individual Avengers if they were all cast in some spell by the spear to cause the infighting, and I'm sure Whedon wants to show that these guys all don't get along even without some mystery magic cast on them.

    One part that threw me off a bit during the infighting scene was when Cap and Stark were still going at it, and Stark shakes his head inexplicably in the middle of the argument. It almost seems like he also felt the effects of Loki's spell but he may also just have been shaking his head at something that Cap or someone else said. I'm watching the movie again next Thursday, I guess I'll have to give this another look :)
     
  48. NuRF

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    I saw it 3 times yesterday. Can't get over how much I loved it. Widows 'hair-butt' makes me laugh each time. I must concentrate on her * next time.

    The only issue I had was Loki calling Widow a 'mewling quim'. At first I thought I'd mis-heard, but I hadn't. I thought it was an odd decision to have that level of vulgarism in this type of movie...unless it was trying to highlight just how deranged Loki had become...
     
  49. SonofJorEl

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    Is Thor's full sleeved outfit the same as his original movie suit? Also, not really a spoiler, but does he ever wear his Helmet in the flick?
     
  50. redbridge1

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    Same here brah!!

    First time I honestly think Bruce Banner and Hulk had some screen presence!!! Ruffalo has made the character his !!! And he didn't make me want to gouge both my eyes out with stanley blades made from pepakura!!!

    And thank F**K Stark has gone back to the circular arc reactor !! Something about that triangle reactor that made me think of carney folk....

    What did everyone think of the "usual after the credits" peek?
     

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