AT-AT pilot helmet / armour greeblies

[voice in the crowd]

Hi,

Watching Clutch's excellent ATAT thread in the costuming part of the forum it has inspired me to try (again) to find some more of the ATAT helmet greeblies. I have an idea of whta some may be but cannot find the exact parts.

Maybe if we can bounce some ideas off each other we might find some of the parts.

I will try to rustle up a diagram of what greeblies are needed and what I think they could be.

Anybody else interested feel free to throw your ideas in.

Cheers Chris .

 

[voice in the crowd]

Actually first up why don't we put down what we know about the helmet and its greeblies -

1. We know that it is a repainted TIE pilot helmet all of the screen accurate parts for this can be sourced.
2. The red and grey square greeblies on the front of the helmet either side of the mohawk are rubber feet and again an easily sourced piece.
3. The black side hangers are BOC soda syphon bulb holders that have been modified these again are readily avaiable.
4. The black rectangular box on the the back of the helmet attached to the mohawk is a 1970s plastic pill box (I am unsure if anybody has sourced one of these yet)

So for starters the main left over greeblies for the helmet are -

1. The two cylinders / cannisters on the back of the helmet

2. The two grey pieces on the front under the mohawk

3. The two black pieces that help create the gap between the faceplate and the helmet to allow the hoses through.

4. The tusks which are a major part of the look of the helmet (I still don't think anyone has got these correct yet).

Anybody have any idea what these are?

I have a few ideas on them but will post later with some pics to try to back up my ideas.

Cheers Chris.

 

[Firespray]

These images are much clearer than the ones I've been looking at. This helps tremendously.
The search is on.

 

[voice in the crowd]

I have added a couple more images to help. Unfortunately I have come to the end of a very long night shift and will try to pic this up later tonight. If anyone can help then please feel free to join in.

Cheers Chris.

 

[Clutch]

Weren't the windshield wiper pieces from some model? Visible engine or clock?? Like Mr. Bojangles said, the hose on the hangers looks like liquid tight conduit. The hose on my helmet looks a little smaller than it should be. I'll see if I can find some more.

Another thing to notice are the white half-circles behind the tusks. And check out how the helmet seems to overlap the tusks on top. They are pretty big discs.

 

[troopermaster]

The two cylinders on the back look like grey plastic pipe connectors that is used on waste pipe for your sink.The top part could be a stop end too.Do you have any ideas what the size of these parts are?The modern waste pipes are 32mm and 40mm and the connectors are slightly wider.Just a thought

Something similar to THIS and THIS

-Paul.

 

[GINO]

The cylinders on the back are originally white pieces that were painted grey.

 

[RKW]

I think I've just had an epiphany...

Could the black items next to the grey tubes actually be buttons from an old tape deck?

 

[GINO]

It does look like they could be. Definitely worthy of being looked into.

 

[voice in the crowd]

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The two cylinders on the back look like grey plastic pipe connectors that is used on waste pipe for your sink.The top part could be a stop end too.Do you have any ideas what the size of these parts are?The modern waste pipes are 32mm and 40mm and the connectors are slightly wider.Just a thought

Something similar to THIS and THIS

-Paul.
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Hi Paul,

I had checked waste pipe parts and also the grey PVC industrial piping for water but could never see anything the same (yet). I have tried to scale the sizes for these I think that the width of the mohawk strip is 3.25" 82.55mm so using this size here is my rough scaling of these parts. I make the metal top part (which I think may be a hex nut but I am unsure as yet) is 18mm the top plastic piece is 43mm the upper and lower coupling? pieces are 60mm wide and the main pipe section is 50mm.

I also thought this piece may be a filter canister of some sort like for an oil or fuel filter you know the type that have a nut on the top for tightening the housing over the actual filter. I also had a thought it may just be a dressed up aerosol can? Do we know it is definitely plastic?

RKW your idea on the cassette buttons. I had thought they may be from an old VCR and funnily enough I thought the grey cog type pieces may also be from a cassette / VCR. These pieces look like VCR loading arms here is a link to more modern pieces http://home.earthlink.net/~epcs/id.htm .

Although if you look at the helmet cog piece the teeth are not like gears its more like a thumbwheel for tuning or adjusting.

I also think the black pieces between the faceplate and the helmet may be a linear rail or runner of some sort.

The tusk looks to be two different colours of metal the anchor flange part looks less blue to me and I think the spike part is machined for the purpose by LFL. Also most replica tusks seem to all step up but if you look at the shadows after the outer six holed flange it actually steps down not up.

I will add better pics of this.

Cheers Chris.

Glad the ball is rolling on thie one.

 

[Clutch]

Not close, but similiar? The buttons, that is.

 

[Firespray]

I 've always thought the two grey pieces on the front under the mohawk looked like some form of pick-up shoe, similar to the ones found on the bottom of old slot cars.

 

[troopermaster]

Hiya Chris,

I'll check at the plumbers merchants next time I'm there to see what sizes are available,but I'm sure they have them coupler's at B&Q The largest they do though is for the 40mm pipe,but the merchants will stock different sizes.It's only a possibility,but they sure do look like the couplers that I use regulary.

-Paul.

 

[RKW]

I was thinking more on the lines of a portable top loading tape recorder. Old Commodore computers also used them such as the PET although I think it's unlikely that they butchered a PC for parts. I would speculate that the white stickers are hiding an engraved button function.

 

[voice in the crowd]

This is the style of push button I was thinking of the ones pictured have a indent on them. I agree that the stickers may be covering the engraved button function but I also think they may be part of the button if you look at RKW's the functions are on the machine not the button. In Clutch's pictures the keys are colour coded and the function is on the machine also. I am thinking the cassette / VCR had white marks apart from the record button which would have had a red strip.

As for the grey pieces under the mowhawk on the front long pieces on them coming from the wheel part look like they are some kind of electrical tab and possibly the three jutting out pieces may have plugged into something.

I had also thought that these pieces may be part of the eject system on an old VCR or cassette player.

Chris.



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Hiya Chris,

I'll check at the plumbers merchants next time I'm there to see what sizes are available,but I'm sure they have them coupler's at B&Q The largest they do though is for the 40mm pipe,but the merchants will stock different sizes.It's only a possibility,but they sure do look like the couplers that I use regulary.

-Paul.
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Hi Paul,

If you do get a chance to check that would be great. I will ask around some of my mates who work in plant services and facilites in the factories I work in.

I ain't gonna argue with you I remember the Aliens guys doubting your Motion Tracker gully cover theory and well the rest is history http://www.therpf.com/index.php?showtopic=...&hl=birdie&st=0

Cheers Chris.

 

[GINO]

On the black pushbutton thingys, the white strip is only reflective tape which is found all over the AT-AT pilot costume.

 

[LDR]

Could the metal tusks be the end of ski poles? Would these be the right size?

 

[Darthmagpie]

I may be way off the time frame and size ,but pulling apart all thoes hard drives for the ROTS Vader has me thinking that the center wheel of the hard drive is what the tusks are. If this is possible I can post some pics of modern ones.

 

[voice in the crowd]

Hi,

I had thought of ski pole ends but never saw anything like them and the ski poles appear different in shape and bigger. I had also thought they may have been traction studs

Maybe some had been left overs from filming for the Hoth scenes either from snowmobiles or other ice gear but I realised that traction and ski stuff tends to be rougher for better traction.

The hard drive theory may be off as the helmets were made ages ago but feel free to post any pics I will rule nothing out.

The unfortunate thing is there are hundreds of things shaped like this and used for hundreds of purposes. I have checked loads of wheels and bicycles and vacuum flanges and load look similar. There is a chance the flange part could come from a drive shaft of sorts also.

I still think the tusk is two pieces one either both found or one found and the other added. I think the collar and spike part of the tusk are two different coloured materials I think the spike part looks more aluminium and the collar/flange looks more stainless. I get the feeling the collar/flange is one piece and a found piece

I think the spike of the tusk may be machined by LFL for the purpose but again I could be way off.

Anyway thanks for the ideas I am still searching hopefully we can find at least one of these things.

Cheers Chris.

 

[GINO]

Wow. What is that thing?
I also think that it is most likely two pieces, the ring, and the spike.
Could that piece pictured above be the ring before the center is cut away?