Apple stole my Badge!!!! (BladeRunner)

Discussion in 'Replica Props' started by DrStranglove, Jan 27, 2006.

  1. DrStranglove

    DrStranglove Sr Member

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  2. Clutch

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    WTF.?.
     
  3. Chingon

    Chingon Well-Known Member

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    Can anyone tell if the blaster is fanmade as well? A C&S or Doppleganger maybe?
     
  4. temponaut

    temponaut Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    According to Apple, they're just providing a link to the icons as a "courtesy." It's the vendor, a company called "Daniel Pimley," that's lifted your work.

    But, that said, WTF?. :angry
     
  5. Fetthunter

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    http://www.pimley.net
     
  6. Jack Bauer

    Jack Bauer Well-Known Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    DUDE. that's MESSED UP.

    I say gather all your proof and go AFTER those bastages... Get rich baby.
     
  7. propsculptor

    propsculptor Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That looks like image theft to me. :angry
     
  8. Prop Runner

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    Holy (electric) sheep. :confused

    Doc,

    Sorry to be the solitary voice of dissent, but while I sympathize with your initial knee-jerk reaction, I can't justify your righteous indignation. Allow me to explain: while I agree that you produced that particular design, it *was* in fact a copy of one that had been sold on eBay previously, and I doubt anybody can "own" an LAPD badge design or the copyrighted "Blade Runner 26354."

    Here are examples of two that predate (not to mention directly inspired) your project:

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Besides, in the current badge interest list/project thread, I unfortunately don't see anywhere in there that you're credited by its originators:

    http://www.rpf.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=103777

    Personally, I think your badge should have at least been credited as the inspiration for the new run, but here too nobody asked your permission nor should have had to, since you "retired" the edition, to borrow a Blade Runner term. ;) Besides, let's get real here: Apple is only offering a desktop icon, not a real badge... And finally, who knows where the image was originally lifted from? Perhaps eBay? The photographer probably had no clue who created it and he's very likely clueless about prop replicas in general, or else he wouldn't have used an inaccurate Doppleganger PKD or a fantasy badge for those desktop icons... :p For that matter, who really believes Apple got permission from Warner Brothers or The Blade Runner Group to use images of Blade Runner bootleg props? :lol Did anyone download the icon set yet? I don't have a Mac, and I'd be curious to know what else is in the set. Perhaps one of Mick Guy's replica origami chickens or a bronze opium duck? :lol

    Try and think of it positively: now all Mac users who download the font will want to own a Dr. S Blade Runner badge and PKD, therefore increasing the resale value of yours (since I doubt the new run can be based on a pre-9/11 LAPD badge), and hopefully providing Rich with more C&S eBay sales. :)

    This isn't exactly bad publicity, you know. :D

    Just trying to put things in the proper perspective and find the silver lining...

    - Gabe
     
  9. Boba Frett

    Boba Frett Sr Member

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    That isn't cool.

    But the badge is kickass :thumbsup
     
  10. Noeland

    Noeland Sr Member

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    The blaster looks like a PKD2 from Rick Ross/Doppleganger, and the origami looks like Tom's. The badge, I don't know much about those.

    I would agree that your beef should be with Daniel Pimley. But if you contact apple and let them know Pimley probably does not own those images, they will likely remove them.
    Njc--------------
     
  11. Apollo

    Apollo Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    :eek Wow.. :eek
     
  12. KarlBud420

    KarlBud420 Well-Known Member

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    It amazes me that somebody who is obviously smart enough to put together a pretty spiffy website would be so oblivious as to believe novody would own those images. :confused

    Bruce
     
  13. temponaut

    temponaut Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    From Apple's "Blade Runner Icons" page:

    You can try going to Apple, but my guess is they'll tell you to talk to Pimley. On the other hand, as Noeland suggests, Apple may remove the images in the interim, pending resolution of the dispute.

    If you want to register a complaint, you might as well do so with both Apple and Pimley, no?
     
  14. Nexus6

    Nexus6 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I'd be surprised if there was much that could actually be done, but I definitely know how you feel. I had a similar situation occur a few years ago.

    When the movie 'Equilibrium' first came out in the theaters, there were literally NO websites for it. So this chick starts a fansite (which has become basically the official UNofficial Equilibrium site. The director of the movie (Kurt Wimmer) actually corresponds with her). In the beginning, she didn't really have any content, so I took my pirated copy of the film, made some screencaps, & did a bunch of graphics for her (she got a lot of her jpegs from me, & I made about a half a dozen wallpapers). One of them, I created from 3 different screencaps, then I transcribed & added the text. My sig is at the lower righthand corner.

    [​IMG]

    Anyway, about 6 months later, she e-mails me, & says she just bought an 'Equilibrium' handbill (advertising flyer) off of E-bay, that came from Thailand. She said she thought I might find it interesting:

    [​IMG]

    Check out the third inset pic from the left.

    They used my wallpaper to sell tickets to their movie.

    In a perfect world, somebody would owe me some money imo.
     
  15. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Not to be too much of a smartass, but be careful wishing for that "perfect world"... you mention that you took the original screencaps off of a pirated copy of the film. :D

    - k
     
  16. Nexus6

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    Dude, I meant MY perfect world. Duh?. ;) :lol :D
     
  17. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Aaaaaaaaaah. I seeeeeeee. :D

    - k
     
  18. lonepigeon

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    The icon "set" is just those three. Not much of a set.
    I don't see the big deal about a few fan made icons. It's not like Apple made them or really has anything to do with them. It's just another case of internet image theft between two individuals.
    Maybe the guy actually owns those things? Or was it your photo of your own prop?
     
  19. tommin

    tommin Sr Member

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    Say hello to my 15 seconds of fame... :D
     
  20. tripoli

    tripoli Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I think Dr. Strangelove should assert his authority to the badge design: MAKE ANOTHER RUN OF THEM.

    Just a thought on the matter.
     
  21. temponaut

    temponaut Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I'm not personally familiar with who did what first here. Can somebody fill in the missing links?
     
  22. Prop Runner

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    Dr. S made the most recent and IMHO nicest and highest quality Blade Runner badge & leather holder, inspired by demand generated by earlier attempts like the ones I posted. The badge in the above photo (can't assess it's true quality - that's the only photo I found) was floating around on eBay for a while but nobody knew who made it and it had stopped selling, so Dr. S rose to the occassion. :D

    Here's the stunning result:

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    - Gabe
     
  23. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    That's not a "badge", it's a "patch".

    - k
     
  24. Chingon

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    "They say you Bwade Wunnah."

    :lol

    Thats what I remember from the original Blade Runner badge discussion thread way back when the RPF was on eZboard I think.
     
  25. Megatron

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    rotten apples

    Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
     
  26. DrStranglove

    DrStranglove Sr Member

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    To be sure, I only polished a design that I had been shown by Guy Raz. The wallet is all mine though, it was actually kind of an after thought to get the lettering on it with the seal and all.

    But, no, I did not originate the badge. Like Chick-Filet, I did not invent the badge, I just perfected it.


    Still *, though....

    Grrrrrrr............
     
  27. Roger Ramjet

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    Good looking C&S Blaster there also.... :)

    UFP
     
  28. temponaut

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    Thanks for bringing me up to speed, Prop Runner. (You, too, Dr. S. :D )

    That is a mighty fine lookin' shield. :thumbsup
     
  29. morpheus13

    morpheus13 Well-Known Member

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    Its a Doppleganger
     
  30. evpi50

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