Anovos Stormtrooper.... thoughts?
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cyberpyrot
Sr Member
my new mannequin comes in the mail today im so excited...
KrangPrime
Master Member
well, I was hoping this TK mannequin would fit my threepio, but sadly no such luck. t he torso won't fit no matter what I do.
There HAS to be one that can get my threepio displaying properly.
But, at least now I can start on my armor trimming.
There HAS to be one that can get my threepio displaying properly.
But, at least now I can start on my armor trimming.
OldKen
Master Member
Someone please post a comparison with spacebob's pics and the MR/EFX PCR helmets.
One looks alive and real.
One looks like a plastic Halloween mask.
How could anyone dissagree?
No it's not as accurate as RS etc. i agree with GF on the re-shaped eye outer corners. Etc.
I'm just saying that wonky and asymetrical wins everytime.
If you disagree... I hate to break it to you but you aren't really a movie stormtrooper fan.
Which is what stormtroopers look like...
They finally made FX armor cannon in rebels though....HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
LOL!!!
One looks alive and real.
One looks like a plastic Halloween mask.
How could anyone dissagree?
No it's not as accurate as RS etc. i agree with GF on the re-shaped eye outer corners. Etc.
I'm just saying that wonky and asymetrical wins everytime.
If you disagree... I hate to break it to you but you aren't really a movie stormtrooper fan.
Which is what stormtroopers look like...
They finally made FX armor cannon in rebels though....HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
LOL!!!
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spacebob
Sr Member
I know its strange that they got it this close without nailing it.
The things that are different don't sanitize or make it more symmetrical, quite the opposite it seems at least as wonky as my other lineage buckets.
But I still love it
I mean you just have to look at it...........it's very, very, close.
It looks great next to my efx ep 2 clone on the shiny shelf.
The things that are different don't sanitize or make it more symmetrical, quite the opposite it seems at least as wonky as my other lineage buckets.
But I still love it
I mean you just have to look at it...........it's very, very, close.It looks great next to my efx ep 2 clone on the shiny shelf.
If you were right I would agree.
Putting aside the utter silliness of your post I love them both. Telling people what kind of fan they are based on what their preference is really ridiculous. For instance I can't see how any Star Wasr fan like TFA but if they do I am not gonna tell them they are not true Star Wars fans.
I have the EFX PCR Stormy and I love it. I love my Anovos Stormy as well. One idealized and one like it was. I love them both.
I can post pics of both tonight but I am not gonna bother if your just going to trash a prop I love.
There is a lot of stuff on these boards I think are junk but I would never say that to someone who is showing it off and loves it. That would be a sign of a really sad person.
Tom
I agree those are what the movie costumes look like. I maintain that's not what Stormtroopers look like -- as in the fictional in-universe military dudes. No galaxy-spanning, impersonal, sterile Empire is going to care about "organic" or "artistic merit" or other flower-child ephemera. They're going to be designed in computers, to be inexpensive, efficient, intimidating, and robust... And symmetrical, because it's simpler than working in asymmetry. I'm not going to run in fear from a bunch of soldiers wearing cracking armor held on with gaffers' tape that isn't even closed all the way.
Perfect symmetry would have taken time and been more effort than it was worth. 3PO is okay. Vader's asymmetry isn't instantly apparent. But the Stormtrooper costumes... Never mind the high and low brow range of variance, it bugs me that one aerator shroud protrudes so much further forward than the other, it bugs me that one end of the frown is open all the way past the fourth "tooth" on that side, still has one more small void, and extends almost all the way to the side tube, while the other end terminates just before the far end of the fourth tooth, well short of the side tube. And so on and so on. Those were things that were easily catchable, had the artist been given time, had the production cared enough to tweak things that weren't going to be that clear on the movie screen.
As for the MR CE/eFX... We revisit the mantra that nothing is ready-to-go right out of the box. I do prefer those as a starting base, as they begin by fixing my big gripe -- symmetry. I then use my TE2 for reference to fix things -- heighten the frown in the center front, reshape the frown opening, put in new teeth that are the right size in the right positions, trim an eighth of an inch off the brow, rip off the stock rubber trim and put my own more accurate stuff on, cut the traps out to the right size and redo those, give the front edge of the tears the right curvature with epoxy putty, extend the return edge underneath to something closer to accurate, massively rework the earcaps, fit multipiece castings of the actual aerators, fit bubble lenses...
I'm not shooting for warts-and-all prop replication with my Stormtrooper stuff, but something that looks far better in person, up close at a convention or whatever, than the movie costumes do. My object is to give people a moment of irrational "holy crap, it's real!" before their rational brain kicks in again and reminds them it isn't. They're different approaches to doing this. I feel both are valid, depending on whether one's goal is loving recreation of the movie prop, idealized "in-universe" what-if creative endeavor, or an in-between "that looks good enough" of the casual fan who just wants to have their own Stormtrooper, and couldn't tell you the difference between ANH and ESB or Hero and Stunt -- and don't care.
I do not think a "my way ot the highway" attitude helps.
And I'll post up pics of my current MR CE build-in-progress this weekend. Need to dig out my camera and charge it. Then you can decide whether you feel I'm making a decent silk purse out of that particular pig's ear.
--Jonah
Stormy320
Sr Member
I agree those are what the movie costumes look like. I maintain that's not what Stormtroopers look like -- as in the fictional in-universe military dudes. No galaxy-spanning, impersonal, sterile Empire is going to care about "organic" or "artistic merit" or other flower-child ephemera. They're going to be designed in computers, to be inexpensive, efficient, intimidating, and robust... And symmetrical, because it's simpler than working in asymmetry. I'm not going to run in fear from a bunch of soldiers wearing cracking armor held on with gaffers' tape that isn't even closed all the way.
Perfect symmetry would have taken time and been more effort than it was worth. 3PO is okay. Vader's asymmetry isn't instantly apparent. But the Stormtrooper costumes... Never mind the high and low brow range of variance, it bugs me that one aerator shroud protrudes so much further forward than the other, it bugs me that one end of the frown is open all the way past the fourth "tooth" on that side, still has one more small void, and extends almost all the way to the side tube, while the other end terminates just before the far end of the fourth tooth, well short of the side tube. And so on and so on. Those were things that were easily catchable, had the artist been given time, had the production cared enough to tweak things that weren't going to be that clear on the movie screen.
As for the MR CE/eFX... We revisit the mantra that nothing is ready-to-go right out of the box. I do prefer those as a starting base, as they begin by fixing my big gripe -- symmetry. I then use my TE2 for reference to fix things -- heighten the frown in the center front, reshape the frown opening, put in new teeth that are the right size in the right positions, trim an eighth of an inch off the brow, rip off the stock rubber trim and put my own more accurate stuff on, cut the traps out to the right size and redo those, give the front edge of the tears the right curvature with epoxy putty, extend the return edge underneath to something closer to accurate, massively rework the earcaps, fit multipiece castings of the actual aerators, fit bubble lenses...
I'm not shooting for warts-and-all prop replication with my Stormtrooper stuff, but something that looks far better in person, up close at a convention or whatever, than the movie costumes do. My object is to give people a moment of irrational "holy crap, it's real!" before their rational brain kicks in again and reminds them it isn't. They're different approaches to doing this. I feel both are valid, depending on whether one's goal is loving recreation of the movie prop, idealized "in-universe" what-if creative endeavor, or an in-between "that looks good enough" of the casual fan who just wants to have their own Stormtrooper, and couldn't tell you the difference between ANH and ESB or Hero and Stunt -- and don't care.
I do not think a "my way ot the highway" attitude helps.
And I'll post up pics of my current MR CE build-in-progress this weekend. Need to dig out my camera and charge it. Then you can decide whether you feel I'm making a decent silk purse out of that particular pig's ear.
--Jonah
I think you're nuts. A symmetrical Stormtrooper doesn't look like a Stormtrooper. You're over thinking it.
[emoji16]
I have referred to the efx ce (which I have owned) as their cash cow in the past and would love to see it revised, are you painting it anh Jonah?.
Charging the camera, thats funny how i tell myself my iphone is good enough but its not as good as my old camera
I prefer what I get to work with with the camera over my tablet or phone. *shrug* And I'm working on two -- one ANH, one Novatrooper. A third is gonna get butchered to symmetricalize an ROTJ face and chin for my Royal Guard Stormtrooper armor.
Short description of my costuming approach. :lol "If it isn't ludicrously over-engineered, you're not doing it right."
--Jonah
Lichtbringer
Master Member
In fact it would look like a Stormtrooper ..... and not like a bad made movie-copy of a "Stormtrooper".
Darth Fetty
Sr Member
Glad someone else noticed that! Totally looks like they googled images of stormtroopers and based the cartoon design off FX armor.
spacebob
Sr Member
After trimming the upper legs I taped across the front as best as I could and then superglued off cuts of the plastic in the back, thusly....
There will be six little bits glued on one at a time to minimise sodding it up.
Hopefully this will hold it all relatively flat for when I come to the fidlly bit of glueing the strip on the front with the e6000
I'm hoping to be able to hold the strip down with tape now while it glues instead of clamps.
There will be six little bits glued on one at a time to minimise sodding it up.Hopefully this will hold it all relatively flat for when I come to the fidlly bit of glueing the strip on the front with the e6000
I'm hoping to be able to hold the strip down with tape now while it glues instead of clamps.
I have referred to the efx ce (which I have owned) as their cash cow in the past and would love to see it revised, are you painting it anh Jonah?.
Charging the camera, thats funny how i tell myself my iphone is good enough but its not as good as my old camera
Rather than keep talking about non-ANOVOS Stormtrooper stuff in this thread, I started one to cover this mod.
--Jonah
cyberpyrot
Sr Member
Cry-Lo Ren
Active Member
So just got back from my Disneyland trip and came across the Anovos helmet from the launch bay, in my personal opining the one there is way better with the bubble lens that was supposed to be released per one of Anovos comments on Facebook.
spacebob
Sr Member
That looks great, more pics please
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